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Re: Delivery of Yahoo Group Messages
Larry, any chance you can post what u sent to your group?? ?It would be a good starting?point for me and I suspect others. Thanks.? On Tue, Oct 22, 2019, 3:04 PM Larry McDavid <lmcdavid@...> wrote: I posted a message about transfer to a Yahoo Group about an |
Re: Notice of Pricing Change
I can understand your situation, but I think the real bad guy here is Yahoo. Yahoo has caused all this commotion, and Groups.io is trying to offer you a way to keep your group. If there was no place to transfer to like Groups.io you would lose your group anyway, so can I suggest you pass the collection plate around to your membership if you can¡¯t personally afford it, and ask your membership to help you out this time. You would be surprised how many people will offer to chip in, just as I found out last year when I transferred my group. ? Don ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Susan B
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 8:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [GMF] GMF] Notice of Pricing Change ? Why are they literally springing this overnight fee change on people. They surely knew before this afternoon. I am helping a group with an absentee owner and have to ask Yahoo to make one of us a moderator so we can issue an invite! There is NO time to get that done! We are going to lose our group over this, I¡¯m afraid. Several people offered to donate toward the $110 but we haven¡¯t done anything toward collecting the donations because we wanted to give the owner a chance to respond. If I pay the $110 myself just to get it done, I will lose that money if we can¡¯t send an invite to the transfer agent. |
Re: Where do I customize the Welcome message?
On Oct 22 at 12:49 PM, Michael Pavan wrote:
Admin > Settings Click on "Member Notices" button near the top of the page Then click on "+New Notice" Use the "Notice Type" dropdown menu to select the type of notice Edit message Make sure the "Active Message" box is checked Click on "Add Notice" at bottom of the page Before I read these instructions I just clicked on the default Welcome message and customized it. I didn't add and activate an entirely new Welcome notification. Have I screwed up? - deborah -- Deborah |
On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 11:17 AM, Tom H wrote:
My PBO d/l preceded the transfer by a few days and doing a manual binary search I can say that the NewID corresponds with that of g.io up to something between 1225 and 2500, above which there is a discrepancy of just 1. I'll have to redo a d/l and hope that nobody has been deleting stuff in the meantime.I redid the PBO d/l and that 1-off discrepancy persisted. Narrowed it down to groups.io failing to import a message that it did not report as a failure. It was #1990 in plain text. So I had to revise my query of the PBO exported database to skip over that record: SELECT id+1-(SELECT MIN(id) FROM group_message) AS Gio_ID, number AS YG_ID?
FROM group_message WHERE number<1990
UNION?
SELECT id-(SELECT MIN(id) FROM group_message) AS NewID, number AS OldID?
FROM group_message WHERE number>1990
;
So it's not only deletions on the YG occurring between the PBO and Gio transfer but also missed messages by one or the other. It can be very labour intensive finding the discrepancies. I really wish Gio had the option to preserve YG message numbers when importing to an empty database or to allow them to be offset by some user defined value that assured the resulting numbers did not clash with any already in the Gio archive.Tom |
Re: Dual email addresses
On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 12:00:01 CD, Frances said:
Members can have an alias to send emails from. There is no email received at the other secondary address. So, unlike Yahoo, in we can send emails from both primary and secondary addresses, but group emails are only delivered to the primary email address. Do I have that right? deborah
-- Deborah |
Re: "Eligibility to join" pop-up for potential new members
Do you just not want spammers? ? Or is your group hosting content that you would rather keep private? For my part, I just leave them moderated until they post their first message, which is generally an on-topic message if they are ¡°genuine.¡± ? I like the auto-moderation in GIO better than manually doing it.? Going to love it here. If my group ever gets transferred.? LOL ? On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 15:04 Frances <frances@...> wrote: You can create a notice that requires members to give you some information. --
¡°We?choose to go to the Moon in this decade and?do?the other?things, not because they are easy, but?because they are hard.¡± ¨D John F Kennedy |
Re: Delivery of Yahoo Group Messages
Well, it took Yahoo an hour and a half to post my message but it finally did appear in my Inbox. That surely seems a long delay...
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Larry On 10/22/2019 11:42 AM, Larry McDavid wrote:
I posted a message about groups.io transfer to a Yahoo Group about an hour ago but it has not appeared even on the Yahoo Group website as a Conversation. Is Yahoo not posting messages or just being flaky? --
Best wishes, Larry McDavid W6FUB Anaheim, California (SE of Los Angeles, near Disneyland) |
Re: Question about invitation formats
Yup, exactly as I figured.? ?There was no error messages, as happened when I fixed the list and reran the invites,
*WITH* error msgs for those already subscribed. ;-) Ah well,? you're getting lots of other misunderstandings, I'm sure..? Bob ?It takes a computer to really screw things up. |
Re: Delivery of Yahoo Group Messages
Flaky of late On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 2:04 PM Larry McDavid <lmcdavid@...> wrote: I posted a message about transfer to a Yahoo Group about an |
Re: Delivery of Yahoo Group Messages
I had one take an hour last night - both to show up in the group webpage and to deliver the actual email.? Will be nice to be done with them... On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 2:04 PM Larry McDavid <lmcdavid@...> wrote: I posted a message about transfer to a Yahoo Group about an |
Re: Notice of Pricing Change
If you don't want to move all your archives, you don't have to get a premium group. See this wiki page for info about alternatives to premium.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/FAQ-on-Moving-from-YahooGroups Also if you wish, on a premium group, you can accept donations. See /static/pricing Frances -- FAQ on Moving from YahooGroups /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki /static/help More help: use the search button at the top of the Messages list. |
Delivery of Yahoo Group Messages
I posted a message about groups.io transfer to a Yahoo Group about an hour ago but it has not appeared even on the Yahoo Group website as a Conversation. Is Yahoo not posting messages or just being flaky?
-- Best wishes, Larry McDavid W6FUB Anaheim, California (SE of Los Angeles, near Disneyland) |
Re: "Eligibility to join" pop-up for potential new members
You can create a notice that requires members to give you some information.
See /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Member-Notices and more: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Screening-New-Members-Using-the-Pending-Subscription-Notice Lots more in the wiki! GroupManagersForum Frances -- FAQ on Moving from YahooGroups /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki /static/help More help: use the search button at the top of the Messages list. |
"Eligibility to join" pop-up for potential new members
Our Yahoo group confirms eligibility to join our group when a potential new member clicks the join button. A message box pops up asking them to write a few sentences on why they want to join.
We are worried that our new group will not have this function when the join button is clicked. If not, how do we assess the eligibility of these potential new members? Due to time constraints for our volunteers, we hope we don¡¯t have to send each an individual request for information, even if that request is just a copy/paste into a new email addressed to the new person. Is there a workaround for this if no request for eligibility information pops up when the join button is clicked? Is it possible to post a standing message next to the join button telling them they have to email us with their explanation of why they want to join? This is really important to us. Thank you Susan B |
Need a little information for our "welcome to our new home" message that groups.io sends to our members
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI understand that the transfer agent copies all our members over to our group here. In our ¡°we¡¯ve moved!¡± welcome message that ?sends out to our members, is there anything we need to tell them about their first visit to our groups here? Will they have to set up an account here after they get into our new group here? Also, I assume that we just have to include the link to our group here in our welcome message and when they click it they will be taken right into the group here without a password. Do they need to add a password for future visits?I¡¯m sorry I¡¯m so confused about this. Thank you? Susan B |
Re: Search function
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýExcellent! Thank you so much, Bruce. I also need to be pointed to how to turn your Yahoo group¡¯s old messages into a pdf file and post into the files section of the??group.Susan B On Oct 22, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote: On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 02:05 PM, Susan B wrote: Does the ?searcher just search inside a forum for a message topic or poster¡¯s name? Or can it search for something inside the body of a message?Susan --?The message search engine scans the subject line and message body. It does NOT search on any other fields (including the poster's name). See also?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Using-the-Search-Engine The group search engine scans only the group Descriptions. Regards, Bruce |
Re: Help with transfer of an "orphaned" Yahoo group
#pgoffline
Adam Farson
Hi Chris,
In fact I have PA3DUV's e-mail address, both from the Yahoo group and from his QRZ record. The address is the same on both. He has not replied to any e-mails I sent, or even to posts on the old group. In the end, using PGOffline, I successfully transferred the archived messages, files and photos from the old icom2kl Yahoo group to the Files and Photos sections of the new GIO group. As there were only about 650 messages, i was able to use the free version of PGOffline. The message archive is in the form of 13 HTML files, each containing 50 messages. I placed it in the new group's Files section. I also captured the old group's member list and invited all members from the old group. 120 valid invitations went out, and the GIO group now has 35 members.I anticipate that others will join over the next week or two. Finally, I closed the old group. I completely agree that any group should have more than one owner. I need to find a co-owner for icom2kl. Thanks to everybody on GMF for the kind help! Cheers, Adam |