Adam,

I did just that for a group about a year ago.?? The owner had been locked out of the group and the other moderators were only alter egos and were also locked out.? The owner didn't really know where to go and since he couldn't get in, couldn't give me moderator or owner status.

What I did was download the group with PGOffline, which costs about $30, and got all 27000 messages and the photos and files.? While it was a lot of work to post the photos and files to the newly created groups.io file, I got it done, but I still am looking for a solution that will make the old database of messages available.? It is basically a model train history group and those old messages contain valuable historical information so I don't want them to be lost.? By the way all those photos and files now show to be posted by me and not the original poster.? If anyone wants to change anything, I give them access back.? I would do it for all, but it is a time consuming process as you need to give access to both the album and each photo.

Messages on the old Yahoo group were unmoderated so it still functioned as a means of communicating with the members, whom we invited to join the new group.?? Out of 689 members on Yahoo, only 100 or so joined the new group.?? We are now at 112 members.? What was left at Yahoo were those who probably weren't interested anymore and those who were marginally interested.?? Since no one had the power to shut down or disable posting on the old group, our biggest problem has turned out to be those latter members who were blissfully unaware that anything had happened, except that there were few messages in the Yahoo group.?? Then they decided to post something and did it on Yahoo and the 689 members got the message.?? There were then responses to the messages on Yahoo, mostly by our members who had moved over to groups.io, who didn't look carefully to see that the message had come from Yahoo.?

I have set up email message filters that send such messages to a separate mailbox and I then forward them to the groups.io group and let people know to respond there.?? I then invite the initial sender to join the groups.io group if he hasn't already.? I have also asked members to delete {groupname}@yahoogroups.com from their email, so they will be less likely to post on the old group.?

In some ways, I wish Yahoo wasn't continuing as an email list as that would end this problem, but continuing messages ties in with OATH's email business plans. ?? I will bet that the ads that were formerly on the website get tacked to the end of the messages sent out or that you get separate ad messages.

Good luck with this and if I can be of any help, just contact me.

Dale Smith

Good luck with this.

thank you, pablo and everyone!

jean

On 2019-10-21 14:05, Jean Guevara via Groups.Io wrote:

forgive me (it's a monday :)? but i take it "Mail will be queued
during the downtime and will be sent when we are back on-line" means
no email correspondence between members during this time?

Hi Jean,

That's exactly how I read it.? No email will move during the maintenance
on the DB server.

Cheers,

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pablo

I found a relatively quick way to delete duplicate or unwanted photo albums:

1) Holding CTRL down, click on each photo album to be deleted on the page being viewed. This will open these in new tabs.

2) From left to right click on these tabs and choose "Delete Album," then close the tab.

3) When all tabs are closed other than the original full albums view, proceed to the next page of album views and repeat.?

I was able to delete 250 empty albums in less than an hour using this technique.

Cheers!

Howard Hoyt
[email protected]?Moderator

On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 02:22 PM, Bernie/Ohio/GL-033 wrote:

You are not alone.? Our situation is the same.? Only acknowledgement was Yahoo’s subsequent screen that said our invitation was successfully sent.?
Contrary to some other comments, the only status screen for invitations seems to be on the page, but that’s for invitations to your new home, from your new home.?

Bernie -- To actually confirm that groups.io has received the invitation, check your transfer status as outlined in?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/19952

For us, we sort on the “added” column in the membership list on Yahoo to see if [email protected] shows up.? We wait and wait.? Going into the third day, but it is over a weekend.

As has previously been mentioned, accepting the invitation is the longest delay in the process, and is getting even longer and more and more transfer requests come in.

See?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/19692?for an explanation.

Regards,
Bruce

On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 02:29 PM, Linda Jones wrote:

Sadly my existing transfers box says I have no transfers in process.

If you have none in process, it can only be because you didn't start one properly.

See?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/19673?for detailed instructions. Sounds like you need to resume at #7 on that list.

I’ve paid for my year of premium maintenance. I’ve invited [email protected] to my Yahoo group (several days ago).

Inviting the transfer agent is step 3...and you haven't completed step 2 yet. The transfer agent will not accept an invitation if you don't have a transfer pending.

Regards,
Bruce

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We have a small group <175 and I thought that an upload the way I did it would go quickly.?? Oh well, I just wait and see.

Hi Lawrence,
I have had the same real KX3list@...?account for six years.? It still works to access and moderate the group.? Maybe I need to get yet another yahoo ID and give it moderator privileges?

Cheers,

Howard Hoyt

On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 02:17 PM, Tom H wrote:

OK, I've come up with something.

Good. Thanks for sharing with the others here in GMF.

Point is, the g.io search tool seems deficient.

That statement strikes me as a little harsh. Let's just say it isn't suitable for this particular application.

Regards,
Bruce

Hi Bruce,

Thanks for the reply. You're a good source of expertise and experience.

3. Has anybody come up with a way to map g.io message numbers to the original Y!G #s?

If anyone has done such a thing, it has not been reported since I've been here (approx 2 years).

OK, I've come up with something. It relies on doing a PB Offline download of the Yahoo Message Archive and that there have been no deletions in it since the transfer to g.io in the range of messages that were transferred. I export the downloaded group to a SQLite 3 db3 file (one could work directly on its main ygroups.db3 file but, if there other downloaded groups in it, things can be confusing. I open the exported db3 file with a SQLite manager such as the free SQLiteSpy and run this script:

SELECT id+1-(SELECT MIN(id) FROM group_message) AS NewID, number AS OldID FROM group_message

;

That gives me a cross-reference like this, resorted descending:

?

NewID	OldID
8776	8987
8775	8986
8774	8985
8773	8984

The NewID is the serial number assigned by PBO. My PBO d/l preceded the transfer by a few days and doing a manual binary search I can say that the NewID corresponds with that of g.io up to something between 1225 and 2500, above which there is a discrepancy of just 1. I'll have to redo a d/l and hope that nobody has been deleting stuff in the meantime.

The search engine is capable of handling string literals, so try "/thisstring" instead. No guarantees that this won't escape the t.

Searching on "/conversations/" brings up results for "conversations" and only one "/conversations/"
Searching on "groupname/conversations/" returns one result which is a link I am looking to correct. However, a SQLite query of the PBO database returns 7 hits.

SELECT number as OldID, TRIM(content) FROM group_message

WHERE content LIKE '%/conversations/%'

;

I'm sure there are more hyperlinks to messages in the messages in which some word other than "conversations" was used in the path. I suspect that might have been a change with Neo.

Point is, the g.io search tool seems deficient.

Tom

gotcha. thanks.

forgive me (it's a monday :)? but i take it "Mail will be queued during the downtime and will be sent when we are back on-line" means no email correspondence between members during this time?

thanks,
jean

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On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 02:38 PM, Glenn Garoon wrote:

I have one member of a group that has a "." in the first part of his email address.? Both times I have tried to add him, Groups.io seems to remove the ".".? Since this is not his email address, he is getting error messages.? Help for this?

G. Garoon

Glenn,

I tested this adding an email address with a dot in it by using the Invite method and it works as expected.

Did you use a different method to add the user? If so, try the Invite process.

In any case, a dot in an email address is generally ignored so that shouldn't have been the cause of him not getting emails.

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Gerald

On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 01:40 PM, Jean Guevara wrote:

is this an additional round of maintenance?

Yes.

Mark is upgrading a server to handle the increased traffic caused by all the Yahoo migrations.

Regards,
Bruce

On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 12:40 PM, Jean Guevara wrote:

does the date keep getting changed, or is this an additional round of maintenance? and does anyone know if it's just the website, or if email correspondence is also affected?

The banner is only there when something is coming up.? You can read the announcement at

Duane
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Help: /static/help
GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki
Search button at the top of Messages list
A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions

Okay, let's try this again.

1. Go to the Yahoo transfer page at?/yahootransfer
2. Select the transfer you want to check status on from "Existing Transfers" at lower right (click on its name)*
3. The box at the top of the resulting page will tell you the status of that transfer.
4. Repeat for any other transfers you may have in progress.

For transfers that are actually approved and in progress, see also:??to see at which stage you are in the transfer queue.

Regards,
Bruce