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On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 05:42 PM, Susan Pitlock wrote:

How do I transfer to let members know about the new group besides a simple post? Sorry, I mean is there a way to transfer over 10,000 members in one swoop or do they all have to join on their own?

Unfortunately, you cannot download a list of all 10,000 members...Yahoo won't let you. So you are left with using the groups.io transfer mechanism or...yes...asking everyone to abandon the old group and resubscribe to the new one.

There's also the question of whether your message archive, files and photos have any meaning to you, and if you're willing to pay $110 to have them moved. Can your subscribers afford to pitch in a penny apiece? :-) If so, this might be a better option. There are many transfer resources that explain the process. You can read about it here, here and here. In fact there are so many resources that many people come away even more confused. The bottom line is that if you can scratch the money together we are here to help walk you through it. If you can't, then your best bet may just be to abandon the "stuff" from the old group and start afresh.

Assuming you decide not to muddle through an actual transfer, you should find the +subscribe email address for your group [among some others] at the bottom of your group's home page. The easiest way to tell people how to subscribe is to simply have them send a subscription email to that address from their preferred email account.?It doesn't matter what the message says...it can even be empty. You can instead have them visit your group home page and click the Join This Group button located there...but for some reason sending the subscription email seems to leave folks less confused.

The good news is that your active members probably WILL follow your instructions and WILL bother to migrate on their own. In fact, I found that the migration to groups.io was a great way to clean out all the deadwood. I can't speak for every group owner, but I'd rather have a dozen subscribers who actually participate than 1000 lurkers.

Hope this helps,
Bruce

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 05:45 PM, Glenn Glazer wrote:

I think that given the archive transfer bug and that the main group is premium, what would be easiest and fastest for us as well as reducing Mark's workload, would be to just create the subgroup and add the members directly.

Does that seem like a reasonable approach?

Glenn -- I, for one, think that makes perfect sense.

You already have Direct Add capability anyway, so I see no advantage whatsoever in waiting for Mark to do something that you can do for yourself.

Bruce

{NOTE TO OTHERS: This continuing discussion relates to a GOOGLE transfer, not a Yahoo transfer.}

Many thanks Duane and Bruce for your prompt and detailed replies.

I think that given the archive transfer bug and that the main group is premium, what would be easiest and fastest for us as well as reducing Mark's workload, would be to just create the subgroup and add the members directly.

Does that seem like a reasonable approach?

Best,

Glenn

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On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 05:40 PM, Tom H wrote:

• images and files not publicly visible. You have to be logged into see them.
• No permalinks for images inside Photos.
• No batch import of pages.

If one considers these to be problems rather than features, then yes...all three are still broken.

Regards,
Bruce

When I was struggling with the demise of Wikispaces a year or so ago, there were a few issues that made me migrate elsewhere than groups.io. Now facing the end of my Yahoo Groups, can someone kindly answer these questions and save me the effort of retesting and researching?

1. images and files not publicly visible. You have to be logged into see them.
2. No permalinks for images inside Photos.
3. No batch import of pages.

Thanks!

Tom

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 04:52 PM, Susan Pitlock wrote:

Bruce why do we need a subgroup?

Susan -- You don't need a subgroup, but you might want one, as in the case of my reply to Glenn.

How is it different from a regular group?

Please see the GMF wiki entries at?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Subgroups and?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Why-use-a-Subgroup?and come back with any unanswered questions.

Regards,
Bruce

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On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 12:34 PM, Shal Farley wrote:

#suggestion

Absolutely, we would love a searchable member directory. This is an important feature.

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 04:26 PM, Glenn Glazer wrote:

What we would like to do is transfer an existing Google group and make it a second subgroup of the main group.

Is this possible?

Yes. See?/static/googletransfer

Essentially, only the subscribers can be transferred, not any messages; and the entire process is done through emails to support.

Do I have to say anything special during the transfer request?

You have to create the subgroup first. Then it appears that you need only provide the location of the target subgroup and a cloud link to the file containing the prospective member list.

Remember that if you transfer people to a subgroup, they are also added to the main group. There is no provision to have subgroup members who are not subscribed to the main group.

Hope this helps,
Bruce

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 03:26 PM, Glenn Glazer wrote:

What we would like to do is transfer an existing Google group and make it a second subgroup of the main group.

Is this possible?

Shouldn't be a problem, /static/googletransfer? And it doesn't look like there's a charge for Google groups (yet?)? Remember "Due to a bug in Google Groups, we are unable to transfer the archives for your group."

Duane
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A search of the archives didn't find anything on this, forgive me if I missed it.

Right now, we have a main group with a subgroup. What we would like to do is transfer an existing Google group and make it a second subgroup of the main group.

Is this possible? Do I have to say anything special during the transfer request?

Thanks,

Glenn

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On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 04:03 PM, LaVerne Wilson wrote:

Can I get photos attached to a message to automatically go to a file on the Photos page?

Any photos attached to a message that are at least 100 pixels in the shortest dimension will automatically appear in the Emailed Photos folder (unless you disable photo albums altogether).

Embedded photos may or may not, depending on how they are embedded.

Regards,
Bruce

? Yahoo is basically shutting down so I am trying to set up my group here.? Can I get photos attached to a message to automatically go to a file on the Photos page?

Thanks
LaVerne?

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 03:44 PM, <sally.suzy@...> wrote:

I saw an old post mentioning a limit of 1000 members but that's not in your wiki and not in your transfer instructions.

The limits you are referring to was for a free Yahoo transfer (pre-February). Now that all transfers require the Premium plan, there is no such limit that I'm aware of.

Regards,
Bruce

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 02:46 PM, Su wrote:

Can I then upload the resulting Mbox file into my group here at Groups.io rather than do a complete transfer? Or is that something that only [email protected] can do? And is there a fee for that?

Su -- There is no mechanism within the web interface that would permit someone to upload/merge messages into an existing group message archive. Rumor has it that support has done this for others, using a file in Unix mbox format...but there has been no verifiable report of it happening for at least two years.?

Frankly, it seems unlikely that he would allow this kind of "back door" to the transfer process so that people can avoid paying the fee, but you never know. I suggest you contact support directly and report back here on what kind of response you get so we can share it with others.?

Good luck,
Bruce