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Re: Problem emailing to my Groups
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHi everyone,Mark says it is fixed now. He wrote: This was a part of moving the load balancer?to its own instance, in response to the outage from the other day. So it?was a one time thing, and not something I regularly monitor, but still.?Sorry about that. As an addendum, this should have only affected groups with subdomains.?Individual groups and enterprise groups were not affected. Frances
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Re: Transferring a YahooGroup of 14,500 members
J is correct here. Messages will not be deleted. In fact, while my archives were being transferred, some members posted new messages, and those fell into the number order of messages being transferred. If I sort by message number instead of by date, there are recent messages that are many years out of place in the numbering because of that. But no messages were lost.
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Dano Is it really true that 'any messages posted to the io group will be |
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Re: Transferring a YahooGroup of 14,500 members
When I transferred my group, messages on the new group were retained. What was lost was the chronological ordering by message number. So the messages by number started with the new messages on the new group, followed by the messages on the Yahoo group in chronological order, followed later by messages on the new group received after the transfer.
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Re: Transferring a YahooGroup of 14,500 members
Hi Lena and all,
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I think a better approach would be to transfer everything and then transfer the last few messages in a batch. I raised a suggestion to that effect on the beta group, but I haven't heard back yet. This may be an academic point, since the Yahoo!Groups product does not appear in the updated list of brands on the Oath website. David. On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 03:43 am, Lena wrote: Yes, you can ask to transfer the member list only. But every member will get a message about the transfer. If you later ask for Messages to be transferred, any messages posted to the .io group will be erased. Put the .io group on "only moderators can post" before you ask to transfer Members. |
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Re: Yahoo groups
Am considering changing from Yahoo groups to FacebookFacebook has a huge problem in that you can't go back and find anything. It's not designed for the retention of information. It's designed to be a short-term social media that just comes and is gone. Groups saves your messages in an archive and has separate places to save files and photos. Information from the past can be recalled relatively easily. If what you're talking about is transitory in nature and meaningless after a week, FB will work for you. If you need a repository of ideas and information, it's a poor choice. I'm curious what doesn't work for your group on groups.io? YMMV Dano |
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Re: Transferring a YahooGroup of 14,500 members
On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 01:16 pm, Ruth Levi wrote:
Obviously the Verizon/Yahoo deal has now scared me into action. I haveYes, you can ask to transfer the member list only. But every member will get a message about the transfer. If you later ask for Messages to be transferred, any messages posted to the .io group will be erased. Put the .io group on "only moderators can post" before you ask to transfer Members. And keep email notifications of new members to the yahooGroup after the member list transfer. You'll have to invite them to the .io group, they'll have to accept invitation (with a click or a reply). Or you can pay .io $10 for one month in order to be able to add them (moderators of free groups cannot add members). |
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Transferring a YahooGroup of 14,500 members
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýObviously the Verizon/Yahoo deal has now scared me into action. I have secured my groups name in IO. I want to secure all of the member email addresses from YahooGroups BUT not yet go live with the IO group. Is this possible? ? Thanks in advance for your help & any great advice that you can offer, ? Ruthie Levi(a newbie here, but i recognize some of your names from YahooGroups, so I feel at home already!) |
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Re: Transfer of files Qu from yahoo
Noel,
Our group is public, in that anyone can join and read messages.I meant public in the stricter sense that anyone can read the messages, without joining. I don't know whether the DMCA (or a lawyer arguing about it) considers those effectively the same. Which is what I mean by having a field day with it. But he also objected to transferring messages from other people thatIn Groups.io there is an option not available in Yahoo Groups: the posted messages can be edited to remove the quoted material. But beyond a handful of messages that would be even more impractical than message deletion, without some form of automation. Longstanding tradition in Yahoo Groups is that he's out of luck on that claim. But IANAL nor would I wouldn't presume to guess how Groups.io might handle it should a take-down be filed. Another good reason for inline quoting, trimmed to relevant parts. That probably puts the quotes squarely in "fair use" territory (IANAL again). Shal |
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Re: Control over Photo section
On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 12:32 am, Shal Farley wrote:
I don't think it is so much a bug as something that hasn't been done. It is on the to-do list: ?Our group also would love to be able to monitor what certain members upload. Most members get that we are paying for space but others upload far too many useless (to us) photos. We get around that in most our groups and sub-groups by making all but one photo section moderator upload only. ?This gets very time consuming in one of our groups but where it is member upload, we have a few members who are "out of control". ?One member has almost 200 photos and the mod who would know for sure what pics are useless just has not the time to remove and re-remove the photos. ?Archivist |
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Re: Transfer of files Qu from yahoo
Too, if your group's messages are not public I'm not sure that DMCA evenapplies; but that's a subtlety where a lawyer might have a field day. Our group is public, in that anyone can join and read messages. As a matter of courtesy to objecting members I would probably delete theirmessages after the transfer. Or if there's too many of them inquire about a way to do that in bulk. We have over 150,000 messages so it would have needed at least a way to delete all messages from a particular user. But he also objected to transferring messages from other people that included his messages as quotes. Noel |
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Re: Transfer of files Qu from yahoo
If you want to move the group, I would suggest calling his bluff by makingthe transfer, perhaps without advance notice, then make the announcement in the Yahoo group and shut off all posting and make it announcement only right away. We have already moved the group without transferring messages etc. In practice this may be a good thing as most postings are only of transient interest or so old they are outdated, 99%+ of messages are of no current interest and probably several people have the ones that are of interest stored in their email client and could repost them if the subject came up again. What is really needed is to extract the content of the useful postings into Wiki FAQ pages, but that is a lot of work. Similarly when I looked at what had accumulated in the files and photos section over 18 years I realised nearly all was junk and it would be a lot of work sorting out what was not and filing it better. As on this group, there was much discussion of what the legal position is and suggestions for what to do, but in practice it just is not worth the possible hassle and distraction. Noel |
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