Harlan, Cindy,

I will do that and also copy Cindy.

I see Mark has made a change that seems related, possibly in response to your report:

CHANGE: Added autocomplete="off" to email fields when viewing a member

/g/GroupManagersForum/message/19116

Has this resolved your issue?

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Hi all,

This week's change log:



Feel free to reply to this topic if you'd like to comment on the
changes. Or better yet, if you expect a lot of discussion start a new
topic (or rejoin an existing one) about a specific change.

CHANGE: When forwarding a message using the Mac email client (and
maybe others), it takes the forwarded message, encloses it in a
blockquote and adds at the top 'Begin forwarded message'. Because it
was in a blockquote, we were collapsing it. This was not good
behavior, so we now look for this special case and don't collapse
that blockquote.

That's an interesting case when a message forwarded to a Groups.io group. I know I've seen messages like that, but reading by email I wouldn't have guessed that the forwarded part might be collapsed when viewed in the Messages section.

BUGFIX: When dealing with a message from someone not a part of the
group, who has DMARC p=reject set on their domain, use their name in
the From line (ie Mark Fletcher via Groups.io). Previously this was
blank.

Presumably this means "if the original From field had a Display Name part". Otherwise I don't know where the name would come from.

CHANGE: Added autocomplete="off" to email fields when viewing a member
and when viewing your account information to prevent the browser
from changing the fields.

Ah, hopefully that fixes the problem reported by Cindy and Harlan here:
/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/34398185


Comments about these others are also welcome:

INTERNAL: More work on the API webhooks system.
API: Added open_donations_visible to perms object.
API: Added hashtags_visible to perms object.
API: Removed view_archives from perms object.
API: Changed view_guidelines to guidelines_visible in perms object.
API: Added subgroups_visible to perms object.
API: Added perms field to member_info object.
API: Added new Subs array to user object.
API: The member_info object now only returns the fields that are set
by the endpoint. Previously it returned all fields, regardless of
whether the fields were set or not (some endpoints won't set all the
fields based on permissions).
CHANGE: When banning a member of a group, we now generate a past
member object for them so they properly appear in the past members
list.

Please call out any you find significant.

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Glenn,

I have what is probably a silly question. My old Yahoo Group website
address was


What would my new website address be for Cruisers Network Online?

There's actually no connection between the two.

That is, the first step in the transfer instructions is to create a Groups.io group. The name (aka email address and web address) was set when you created the group, there is no requirement that the Groups.io group be given the same "name" as the Yahoo Group.

I have tried /g/CruisersNetworkOnline, but it doesn’t
seem to work.

As others have reported that address seems to work now, I'm not sure why you had a problem with it. Hopefully it is working for you now.

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On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 07:25 PM, Greg Mueller wrote:

The transfer shows complete, but none of the pictures got transferred.

When I transferred my main group, about a year and a half ago, I lost about a third of the photos. Annoyed, I went to the group myself and was unable to see these same photos using Yahoo's own web interface. Hmmm...

A couple of weeks later, things seemed to sort themselves out; and I was able to download them manually and re-upload them to the group without initiating a second transfer. Hopefully you'll have a similar experience.

The best time to initiate any transfer is when Yahoo is performing well.?It is a common fallacy that a group owner chooses to abandon Y!G while their servers are crashing and burning and then wonders why the transfer agent can't perform a miracle.

Good luck,
Bruce

Greg,

The transfer shows complete, but none of the pictures got transferred.

There are at least a couple of possibilities:

1) Images that were posted by email (in the Photomatic tab rather than the Albums tab) will not be copied. This is true of all messages attachments, not just photos.

2) There are current reports in Y!GMF and YGOG that the Photos sections of Y!Groups are displaying blank boxes rather than photos. In some cases all photos are missing, in others only a few photos still show, in other cases only a few are blank. This is true of my Yahoo Groups as well.



If Yahoo Groups' own web interface can't access the photo images then it may not be possible for Groups.io's transfer agent to obtain a copy of them either. The good news, to stretch the word "good" a bit, is that past instances indicate that the photos are not lost; the image files are still on Yahoo's servers, but the connection to the servers has broken. In those cases the functionality has returned after some days, weeks, or months.

In this case you may be able to wait until the Photos section in Yahoo Groups returns to being functional, and then request another transfer, this time selecting only the Photos checkbox.

If we lose these it will be a disaster.

You might want to try PG Offline as a way to download a backup copy of your Y!Groups photos. But bear in mind that if the problem is with Yahoo's servers then this software may not be able to access them either.

Can someone help?

Some Y!GMF and YGOG members have reported success by contacting Yahoo Customer Care through Twitter and/or Facebook to request that their groups' Photos section be restored.

On the Groups.io side of things, I doubt there's anything that [email protected] can do about the situation.

Shal


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I have previously reported the same problem of no images being transferred.
There has been no acknowledgement of this problem by either GMF members or IO support.

Mick

The RCOS group.
The transfer shows complete, but none of the pictures got transferred.
The some of the pictures are in albums on the yahoo group, some are singles.
Many of thee are technical in nature.
If we lose these it will be a disaster.

Can someone help?

Greg


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Same here.

Donald

On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 19:19:04 -0400, "Robert Schechter"
<robert.schechter@...> wrote:

I tried /g/CruisersNetworkOnline, and it worked for me.

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On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 05:17 PM, Glenn Tuttle wrote:

I have tried ?/g/CruisersNetworkOnline, but it doesn’t seem to work.

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It worked for me...

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I have what is probably a silly question. ?My old Yahoo Group website address was?

Mick,

I do understand how to do transfers but in my latest transfer attempt
nothing has happened. No transfer has occurred and no status showing
on the IO transfer web page.

That's what makes me think you missed something.

The drop-list should have an entry for that Y!group which shows it as either in process or complete. If it doesn't then the question is whether you didn't actually start one, or whether you did, but while logged in with a different email address.

The Yahoo Group is still active and operating normally.

Of course.

The transfer agent only copies information; it makes no changes to the Yahoo group.

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Hi Don,

The photos are in albums.

Mick

HI Shal,

I am not sure what you mean by conflict.
I do understand how to do transfers but in my latest transfer attempt nothing has happened. No transfer has occurred and no status showing on the IO transfer web page.
I have done a successful transfer previously.

The Yahoo Group is still active and operating normally.

Mick

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Mick,

I have ... understand the transfer process.
On the IO transfer website page it does not show a transfer being processed.

Those two statements are in conflict. Does the Transfer page show the transfer as being completed?

Use the drop-list to select the Yahoo Group in question and check its status.

If you don't see it there, then you're most likely logged in using a different email address than the one which did the transfer.

I cannot get a response from IO support.

Ordinarily I'd say "Surprising", as [email protected] has a history of being very responsive. On the other hand, I have a request in relating to GMF which is five weeks old now with only the automated reply.

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D, Bruce,

Bruce wrote:

Yahoo has been deleting accounts due to inactivity lately, and
we here in GMF have noticed quite a few of them beginning to bounce
posts that are sent to them.

There are actually two separate activity limits.

The first is for use of the Yahoo Mail address. If you don't access the Yahoo Mail interface for more than a few months they may make the address inactive, after that point messages sent to that address will be rejected ("bounced"). I don't know if accessing your Yahoo Mail via a POP/IMAP client is sufficient to keep the address alive.

The second is a for use of your Yahoo Account. If you don't access anywhere on Yahoo (Groups, Mail, Sports, Finance, etc.) for more than a year they may delete the account and recycle (let someone new have) the user name. Before that point, if your Yahoo Mail address has been made inactive you can reactivate it simply by visiting the Yahoo Mail pages (while signed in under the corresponding Yahoo Account).

If it has been so long since your last sign in (to anywhere on Yahoo) that the account itself has been deleted then the account recovery procedures will probably not work. But it is worth a try, as they don't necessarily recycle the user name immediately on expiration of the account.

That still leaves the other path open, if you have a working email address subscribed to the group.

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D,

I wrote:

If you cannot recover access to your Yahoo account (the one that was a
owner/mod of the group), and there are no other owners or mods of the
group who can, then you are likely out of luck.

That was too pessimistic - there is another path.

If you still have access to any email address (Yahoo Mail or not) that is subscribed to the group then you can create a new Yahoo account, and connect your group membership(s) to the new account via that email address. All that is required is that you be able to receive and send messages from that email address, and that it be already in the group's Manage Members list.

There are some tricks involved in doing so, as Yahoo has changed some features of the account system and they have not updated Yahoo Groups to be fully compatible with the changes.


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Were the photos stored attachments or pictures in photo albums? If they were
attachments, they will not transfer for some reason.

Don