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Re: Notes for moderators

 

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 08:00 AM, Steve wrote:
Is there any place in groups.io that moderators can maintain a record of action on members that will not be impacted once a member is booted or leaves the group?
If it were me, I'd probably set up a database that only owners and mods could access.? I believe that on paid groups, you still have access to the member information after they're gone.

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Notes for moderators

 

So when I place someone on moderated status, I pull up their member record, and in the "notes" field, I place a note when the person went on moderated status, and why. That way other moderators can see the shared record.

But when we boot someone out of the group, obviously the entire member record is deleted, including anything in the notes field.? So we have been maintaining a separate spreadsheet recording members who we have booted, the date, and why, etc.? Would be nice if that information could be recorded in groups.io somewhere...

Is there any place in groups.io that moderators can maintain a record of action on members that will not be impacted once a member is booted or leaves the group?? Figured I'd ask before I go over to the beta group and add that as a suggestion.? Thanks.


Re: Secondary Email

 

Marcio . . .

On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 21:18:36 -0300, "Marcio via Groups.Io"
<marcinhorj21@...> wrote:

Actually, I don't remember ever setting up any username, all I did was to create my account with my email. Is it my username then?
And, even in the event of Yahoo stop working, will it be enough to just put this email and I'll be logged in?
I'm not sure how to do this but if you joined by email only, you
really should set things up with a password so you can log into the
site and your groups in case your email stops working. From there you
should be able to change anything, and you also will have access to
group files, pictures, etc.

I set up an account here first before creating or joining any groups,
so I am not familiar with an email-only experience (though I generally
only use email to receive and send posts/replies).

Donald


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Re: Secondary Email

 

On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 22:26:54 -0700, "Lena" <Lena@...> wrote:



Subscribe another address and make it an owner or moderator. A group can have more than one owner.
This is always a good idea for any group owner, and probably for
moderators as well.

Donald


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Re: Secondary Email

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Lena,
Subscribe another address and make it an owner or moderator.
Sounds good to me. Thanks for the tip :)
As a last resort, if indeed I need to confirm through my old email before changing it, I'll consider creating another email and making it an owner. Bruce said that it won't ask me to confirm anything through my old email but then there's the note on the Help webpage.

Either way, thanks, I'm saving it as well as other messages sent on this thread so far :)

Cheers,
AKA Starboy

Sent from a galaxy far, far away.


Re: Concerning Databases

 

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Bob,

I pass this on to Ingrid and hope she understands the technical details.

Thanks

Victoria


Re: Secondary Email

 

On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 11:23 PM, Marcio wrote:


I'm using a Yahoo email, as you can see, and I'm afraid that someday Yahoo can
just stop working and I'll lose my groups subscription, including groups where
I'm a mod/owner.
Subscribe another address and make it an owner or moderator. A group can have more than one owner.


Re: Secondary Email

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Bruce,
perhaps the currently inactive username field could serve that purpose.
I completely agree. I don't know since when this "feature" exists and isn't being used, so this could be a good oportunity since the other use which would be something like mentioning someone on Twitter seems not to have gained much love in a general sense.

My personal opinion is that the existing account and subscription settings seem to cause enough confusion without introducing another level of abstraction.
Hmmm, I don't think it would add to the confusion. A username is a username, probably everyone understands it as it is. But for now I won't post about it on Beta. My only one suggestion so far hasn't gotten any response so I need to think if I really want to spend time for nothing again. LOL

Instructions on how to do this can be found in the system help at?/static/help#changeemail. To complete the process, you do have to confirm the new email address, but nothing is sent to the old one.
Confused. Here's what it reads:
On the edit profile page, you can change your email address. Once you do so, you will receive a new confirmation email. Once you reply to that, you will be all set.
Now the question is: How in the earth will I be able to reply through an email if said email isn't working? :(

Thanks for your time answering my questions! The help I always get here is indeed much appreciated.

Cheers,
AKA Starboy

Sent from a galaxy far, far away.


Re: Secondary Email

 

On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 06:11 PM, Marcio wrote:
The question is: if you wasn't using the old email anymore how could you change it without any confirmation or something like that?
I'd like to have these steps in case I ever need them.
Marcio -- Instructions on how to do this can be found in the system help at?/static/help#changeemail. To complete the process, you do have to confirm the new email address, but nothing is sent to the old one.

Hope this helps,
Bruce
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Re: Secondary Email

 

On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 04:23 PM, Marcio wrote:
Is there any way of associating another email, apart from our first one, to the same account?
No. In groups.io, your email address is your account identifier.

You can create a second address (specifically, an alias) from which you can?send messages. To do that, go to?/account?and click open the section labeled "Advanced Settings for Email Aliases." But even if you do that, all group messages will still be?received at your primary address.?

If it's not possible yet, could it be a feature to be requested? Do you see any value on it?
It's certainly been requested before. It would require an "account identifier" that is distinct and separate from any email address(es) associated with that account, and perhaps the currently inactive username field could serve that purpose. My personal opinion is that the existing account and subscription settings seem to cause enough confusion without introducing another level of abstraction.

Hope this helps,
Bruce
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Re: Secondary Email

Marcio
 

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Barbara,
Do you still know the username and password of the old e-mail address?
Hmmm, I don't think I have.
Actually, I don't remember ever setting up any username, all I did was to create my account with my email. Is it my username then?
And, even in the event of Yahoo stop working, will it be enough to just put this email and I'll be logged in?

Thanks for your help, and sorry for too many questions!

Cheers,
AKA Starboy

Sent from a galaxy far, far away.


Re: Secondary Email

 

Do you still know the username and password of the old e-mail address?? That should be all you need to reactivate it.
Barbara Jean

On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 3:11 PM Marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21=[email protected]> wrote:
Barbara,
As for the yahoo groups that I had at the time it was no problem to change my e-mail address in the groups.
The question is: if you wasn't using the old email anymore how could you change it without any confirmation or something like that?
I'd like to have these steps in case I ever need them.

Please? :)

Cheers,
AKA Starboy

Sent from a galaxy far, far away.


Re: Secondary Email

Marcio
 

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Barbara,
As for the yahoo groups that I had at the time it was no problem to change my e-mail address in the groups.
The question is: if you wasn't using the old email anymore how could you change it without any confirmation or something like that?
I'd like to have these steps in case I ever need them.

Please? :)

Cheers,
AKA Starboy

Sent from a galaxy far, far away.


Re: Secondary Email

 

I don't know about what you are asking, but about 9 years ago someone got into my yahoo mail account and I switched to using gmail after that.? As for the yahoo groups that I had at the time it was no problem to change my e-mail address in the groups.
Barbara Jean

On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 1:23 PM Marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
Sorry for the subject, couldn't think of anything better. If anyone can edit it... :)

Now here's the question:
Is there any way of associating another email, apart from our first one, to the same account?
The reason I'm asking it is that I'm using a Yahoo email, as you can see, and I'm afraid that someday Yahoo can just stop working and I'll lose my groups subscription, including groups where I'm a mod/owner.

If it's not possible yet, could it be a feature to be requested? Do you see any value on it?

As always, thanks for any and all help.

Cheers,
AKA Starboy

Sent from a galaxy far, far away.


Re: Concerning Databases

 

To Ingrid, via Virginia,
I have not had missing rows as an observable result of timing out.
It seems as if my login is timed out the the database process seems to always complete correctly as long as all the characters are utf-8 compatible.

The 'Missing Rows', which may also be partial rows are often the result of invalid characters.
Databases require only utf-8? characters.? Any other characters may cause a row to be truncated or other, unpredictable results, dependent of the actual character.
So, my initial checking involves.
  1. A visual scan of the Database in situ.
  2. Check the ID of the last row.? I always try to set up my database using a "zero row starter" json file with the row count set to zero and the initial row set to 1.
  3. Export the rows only to a .CSV file
    1. compare the row count to the original .CSV file row count.
    2. compare the total byte count for original and output .CSV files.
Because my file is a reference file of corneal specialists, it is rather dynamic and change often.
It also has input field names that don't match the output requirements of groups,io's Databases so my query below renames the columns and combines/and or inserts field as needed.? (Adds the MD,? Merges First & Last names into a single field,etc)
So I built an Access database that allows me to make bulk additions and uses a form to make individual adjustments in addresses, etc.
Access also enabled me to build a query that I use for output which also has a template for generating the utf-8 .CSV output file I need for input.


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Secondary Email

Marcio
 

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Hi,
Sorry for the subject, couldn't think of anything better. If anyone can edit it... :)

Now here's the question:
Is there any way of associating another email, apart from our first one, to the same account?
The reason I'm asking it is that I'm using a Yahoo email, as you can see, and I'm afraid that someday Yahoo can just stop working and I'll lose my groups subscription, including groups where I'm a mod/owner.

If it's not possible yet, could it be a feature to be requested? Do you see any value on it?

As always, thanks for any and all help.

Cheers,
AKA Starboy

Sent from a galaxy far, far away.


Apparently An Inconsistency When Searching Through Groups.io's Archive

Marcio
 

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Hi,
First, I'd like to preface it by saying that it's likely a question more to screen readers users (as I am).
That being said, though, if anyone can reproduce it or tell me why that is it will be very appreciated.

Second, it's a bit long, so have patience :)

Let's go.
Using:
  • Firefox
  • NVDA
Steps to reproduce:
  1. Open the messages page of a group, which is /g/[groupname]/messages
  2. Activate the "search button".
Here's the thing. I've noticed? that, doing it, I'm presented with a very strange edit field which NVDA reports as "MSG". I couldn't figure out how it's different from the "search" field, but keep reading.

Steps to reproduce (2)
  1. Open a group home page, which is /g/[groupname]
  2. Click on "Messages"
  3. Activate the search button
Now here's the thing again. Doing this, it's possible to see the "search" edit field, as it should be in the first place.

In other words:
When we open the Messages page directly, activating the "Search button", apparently the "Search" field is being displayed as something else. Plus, there are also a few buttons, some of them by the way NVDA will report as just "button", with no label at all.
Now, if we open a group home page, clicking on Messages and activating the "Search" button, everything is displayed as it should.

Thoughts?

As always, thanks for any and all help :)

Cheers,
AKA Starboy

Sent from a galaxy far, far away.


Re: Truncated email addresses when included in an email

 

On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 05:10 AM, UK-CAB Moderator wrote:
does this impact both in posts and username?
In my test, if they haven't set a Display Name or User Name, then their email address is displayed online at the top of posts.

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Re: sub-groups

TDSWC
 

We have several sub groups all beneath the main group.? The main group is where people register and then we Direct Add members of the sub groups.? The main group is not used apart from announcements.

The only problem we have is where a message is sent to two sub groups as some people get it twice but there is no easy way round that.

Tony

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Re: Truncated email addresses when included in an email

 

I joined this group to ask the same question, can I check if you 'do not mask emails' does this impact both in posts and username??