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Re: Member Name Best Practice(s)?
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Great advice. Shal! ?What I sort-of expected (more about management than the software/platform) but fabulous ideas.
Aside from just ensuring the transparency culture for the group, it's also about moderators and I (as owner) being able to easily see the member list when clicking on "Members". ?Because some emails aren't intuitive, if such a member also had some kind of nickname for display name, we'd need to check against the member database (off-list) if we had any doubt so just a pain. ?But, managing them to use full name as Display name accomplishes both objectives. ?Thank you! |
Re: Member Name Best Practice(s)?
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Brian Vogel
I'd say this really needs to be a "rule of the group" and a part of a group's culture from its first days.
I've been on sites where this is a requirement, and you can't register unless you provide a full first name and surname.? That being said, unless you're willing to be way more intrusive than I would be, even that does not guarantee that what you're getting is real (as in matches real life).? Even software couldn't enforce that. For myself, I am more concerned that a user have only one identity, regardless of whether that identity involves a real name or screen name/id.? I want to know that all posts by {insert name here} are indeed by the same person more than I care about knowing their true name. That does not mean I don't understand why this desire for transparency is far more important in some venues than others. -- Brian?-?Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763?? ? ? ?Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?~ George Santayana |
Re: Member Name Best Practice(s)?
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Barry,
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But, in our case, we want full and real names to appear with every post made. My question is how best to use the platform to ensure that? ?
I think the simplest thing to do is establish a group rule (via the group's guidelines) that members must put their full name into the Display Name field in the Group Profile tab of their Subscription page for your group. That field will have defaulted to their Display Name from their account profile, but they can change it separately in each of their group subscriptions.
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If you check the New Users Moderated box in your group's settings you can double-check that they've set their name before you approve their first message(s).
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For the 300 that are already members, if you didn't have that setting in place you can (with some tedium) go through the Members list and change each of their Posting Privileges setting to Override: new user moderated to get the same effect going forward. You can change a page full of them at a time using the checkboxes in the Members list and the Actions menu at the bottom of the page. In your Account Preferences page there's a control for how many items are shown to you on each page.
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Correct. Signature line too.
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If a member "forgets" and changes their Display Name to something else you'll need to handle that as a member management issue. You can contact them off list, you can even put them back on Override: new user moderated until they correct it.
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There has been a suggestion [] that a group be able to prevent member changes to their Display Name. I'm not fond of that idea, but I can see how it could be useful in a group with a strict rule about posting under your real name.
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An advantage here is that the members can also set a signature line in their group subscription, so they don't have to remember to do it in each message (or do it in their email interface).
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Whether you require that they use their Display Name or their Signature for real name identification is up to you, and how you want group messages to "read". Using the Signature line has the look of a formal letter. Enforcement (by peer pressure and moderator action) would work the same either way.
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Shal
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Re: Member Name Best Practice(s)?
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On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 04:28 PM, Barry wrote:
I realize it's probably an individual group decision as to whether to allow aliases, anonymous posters, initials or just first names, etc. ?But, in our case, we want full and real names to appear with every post made. My question is how best to use the groups.io platform to ensure that?To my knowledge, there is currently no way to enforce this in the software. If there was, I'd be doing it, too. Regards, Bruce? -- The system Help is your friend.??/static/help |
Member Name Best Practice(s)?
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#username
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Just launched a new group with just shy of 300 members and it went smoothly (thanks Mark, Shal and groups.io; I'm well along in my yahoo recovery program already!). What are any best practices on member real-name maintenance? More specifically, I realize it's probably an individual group decision as to whether to allow aliases, anonymous posters, initials or just first names, etc. ?But, in our case, we want full and real names to appear with every post made. My question is how best to use the groups.io platform to ensure that? Both user name and display name are controllable by the member so no way (unless I'm wrong/unaware) for me, as an owner, to force one of those to be the real name. I thought maybe the Database functionality might be the way to go but the wiki didn't include that. Maybe there's a setting of some kind that I can override (with username or display name) to ensure every member has their real first and last names visible? ?Or, is there no technical way to ensure this so just have to manage it by a rule requiring members to sign any post with first and last name? ?Did that on a yahoo group. |
Re: How to take yourself off moderation
Randi,
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Can you take yourself off moderation if you have everything sent to everybody Moderated? ?
Yes. Each member of the group, including each owner and moderator, has a Posting Privilege control .
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Click on your row in the Member's list (anywhere except the checkbox) then scroll to the bottom of your membership page. Normally members should have Use Group Moderation Setting selected so that they are controlled by the group's Moderated checkbox, but you can override that on a case by case basis with this control.
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Or, you can change multiple members' setting at a time by checking the box in their row(s) and using the Actions menu (at the bottom) to select Change Moderation.
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Shal
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Re: forms
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Thanks That works? David On Tue, 23 Apr 2019 15:37 Ken Kloeber via Groups.Io, <KWKloeber=[email protected]> wrote: David how about using Google Sheets, so members don¡¯t by need to have excel? |
Re: Time error when editing row
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On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 10:04 AM, Christopher White wrote:
I had a quick search and didn't find anything similar to the problem I've encountered so I don't know if it's just me but when I edit a row with a column set to hold a time the time, originally entered in 24 hour format, is displayed as am or pm. If the update is posted without changing that time it appears not to be understood and a completely different time appears in the field.I just checked this in my test group and also encountered some rather peculiar behavior. Sometimes when I edit a row containing a time entry the entry disappears entirely and/or defaults to 12:00 am. The time display in a database table is also not affected by account preferences as it should be. The times in the drop-down pick-list seem to be affected, but the display is not -- at least not consistently. ? I'd welcome testing by others, but generally speaking it does not seem to be working well. You might have some luck changing the column type to plain text, but it would be better to report this to support so it can be fixed. Regards, Bruce -- The system Help is your friend.??/static/help |
Time error when editing row
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I had a quick search and didn't find anything similar to the problem I've encountered so I don't know if it's just me but when I edit a row with a column set to hold a time the time, originally entered in 24 hour format, is displayed as am or pm. If the update is posted without changing that time it appears not to be understood and a completely different time appears in the field.
Consequently every time I edit a row I have to change the time to be the original value but in 24 hour format in order to ensure it is preserved when I post the change. Is this a side effect of some subscription setting of mine or a fault in the interface implementation? |
Re: embedded subscribe buttons divert to unrelated page
Isis, ... when I was logged into the system it sent me to the list of my subscriptions, but the new group I was trying to subscribe to was not yet listed, and there was no indication that I was already subscribed. Which you were not, presumably. That being the case it seems like a bug that you should report to [email protected]. Let me know if it would help for me to post the link to the webpage with the subscribe button. He said he generated the button using the code provided by . You don't have to post it here (but may if that's ok with your friend - GMF's archives are open to the public which may or may not influence his decision). However I think it
would be helpful if you include that link in your email to support (Mark). Include
a summary of the tests you tried, and if possible a screenshot of the
page you landed on when you tried to join while already logged in to
Groups.io. I
don't know whether the problem is in the sample code provided by
Groups.io, or in its interaction with your friend's page, or something
else, but I think it will be most helpful for support to see it in place, together
with as much detail as you can provide about how you performed your tests and
what result you got from each test.
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Re: embedded subscribe buttons divert to unrelated page
That's exactly it, Shal, when I was logged into the system it sent me to the list of my subscriptions, but the new group I was trying to subscribe to was not yet listed, and there was no indication that I was already subscribed.
So if I wasn't logged in, I could continue with the process of signing up, but when I was logged in, I never got that option. I finally signed up for the list by browsing directly to the homepage of the group and hitting the join button there. But the subscribe buttons on my friend's website were no help to me unless I logged out of groups.io first. Let me know if it would help for me to post the link to the webpage with the subscribe button. He said he generated the button using the code provided by groups.io. Thanks. Isis |
Re: Revised invite wording
Barry, It did add right away but also sent two emails to the added email. One with and another without my custom edit.? What am I doing wrong?? Unless you made it inactive, the second email was likely your group's default Welcome notice. The content of that one is fully under your control. See Member Notices in the help page.
Of course, I only want one email to go to each of the members once I add all of them. ? Review the list on the Member Notices tab of your group's Settings page. If there is a notice of type Welcome in the list, and it is marked active, click on it's name to open its settings. Uncheck the
Active Message box, then click the blue Update Notice button at the bottom of the page. You might want to make it active again after completing your additions, so that people who join by other means get a welcome notice. Or, you can have one Welcome notice written to complement your Direct Add notice, and another for normal member joins, using the active checkbox to choose which is sent. This can be useful if the text you're adding to the Direct Add notice is extensive - you can trim that down for clarity and put the rest in the welcome notice. Another member notice type to watch for is the Group Guidelines type. It has a checkbox that will cause it to be sent when a member joins the group (by any means). You may or may not want that to go out together with your Direct Add notice. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
Re: Revised invite wording
I'm about to stand up a new group and, before directly adding my couple hundred members (they have all been notified and opted in), I ran a quick test of the Direct Add feature (we have premium). ?From this thread, I knew that the "Direct Add" function under "Admin" has the required and unchangeable "Message to Be Sent" but, also, that I could insert some custom text by using the "Customize Message" field just below the required message. ? I wrote in one line of custom text and saw it update in the "Message to Be Sent" text above. I then entered my test email address and clicked on "Add Members" at bottom left. ?It did add right away but also sent two emails to the added email. One with and another without my custom edit. ?What am I doing wrong? ?Of course, I only want one email to go to each of the members once I add all of them. ?Thank you! |
Re: embedded subscribe buttons divert to unrelated page
Isis, I wouldn't describe your list of subscriptions as "unrelated" to an attempt to subscribe to a group. But if I click on the button when I am logged in, I end up on my own list of subscriptions, with no indication whether I've subscribed or not, or any mention of the group I'm trying to join. Any insight into what might be going awry there? If you were not already a member of that group then I'd agree that something went awry. I haven't tested this, but if you can confirm whether or not you were already a member of the group that would be useful information. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
embedded subscribe buttons divert to unrelated page
My friend embedded subscribe buttons for his groups on his webpage, but they don't behave quite right.
If I click on a subscribe button when I'm not logged into groups.io, I get a page that gives me a couple of options for subscribing to the group I want to join. But if I click on the button when I am logged in, I end up on my own list of subscriptions, with no indication whether I've subscribed or not, or any mention of the group I'm trying to join. Any insight into what might be going awry there? Thanks. Isis |