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We have a subgroup which is for selling items. ?People can opt-into the subgroup and post an?item for sale, including pictures if wanted. ?People then contact the individual privately for completing the transaction. ?It does not have a way to deal with the financial side of the sale, it just puts sellers and buyers in touch with each other.?

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Tom

On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 08:38 PM, ray_r.rm wrote:

So is there a way to have a For Sale/Want ads within Groups.io?

This is on the TODO list as a possibility, but isn't a high priority.? https://trello.com/c/6Wb7a5lZ/256-marketplace-type-section

For now, you'd could upload photos, then create the ad with a link to them, or embed photos in the message.

On a couple of my groups, we do have things for sale now and then.? I created the hashtag #ForSale with settings that cause replies to me moderated, as well as deleting the topic after 30 days.? You could also use the property to cause replies to go to the originator.? There are Freecycle type groups that do this regularly.? If photos weren't embedded, they'd need to be deleted manually.

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1 to 4 pictures of "vehicle" along with text describing condition, extras, price, and the contact information.
Sort of like a minor version of e-bay but available only to Group members and not really an auction site. Deals are made between seller and buyer. The site does not get involved with that. It just a place to list equipment and parts to others interested.

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I think I would change the properties of the original owners who are on the board of directors.? ?I am guessing that the owners will remain in the group but would leave their designated 'control' as owner of the group when the time served as a board member ends.

Hi Martin,

The 'upload file' button is greyed out.

The upload button is greyed out when you have reached your storage limit.? You should get a notification when you are at 80% and 100% of your limit but that feature is not working at present.? See /g/GroupManagersForum/message/15387 for more details.

Storage usage overview is shown in Admin > Billing for a main group or Admin > Usage for a subgroup.

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Andy

On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 07:45 AM, Martin wrote:

I only have 124MB of files stored so it should be well below the 1GB limit.

All files, photos, and attachments count against your limit. See Admin>Upgrade for your actual usage.

The 'upload file' button is greyed out.

This has only recently happened. It has previously worked OK, and I have not changed any settings.

See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Deleting%20attachments,%20files%20and%20photos?

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Bruce?
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Hi All,

I have a problem affecting one of my groups where I and my members am not able to upload files.

I only have 124MB of files stored so it should be well below the 1GB limit.

The 'upload file' button is greyed out.

This has only recently happene. It has previously worked OK, and I have not chnaged any settings.

Any suggestions ?

Regards,

Martin

I hadn't thought to check the Upgrade page to check on current data usage.? That's very helpful.?

On 2019/03/07 03:28 AM, ray_r.rm via Groups.Io wrote:

They currently have no Files, Photos, or Database features, but they do have a For Sale/Wanted feature.

Do you mean a feature where users are presented with a form that they can fill in with only the required information, so that it is then posted to the mailing list in a specific format?

Samuel

STAR,

I looked at the settings to see if there is an option that causes
messages to NOT be sent to the list, but I see no such option.

There isn't one. There is a hashtag option that can do that, but presumably you'd know if you were using that.

Also, each member of the subgroup has a Subscription page, independent of the main group, and the member's subscription could be set to "No Email", or the member's Advanced Preferences could be set to "Following Only".

And of course, members email services may have Spam filters that can redirect messages away from their Inbox.

Have a look at the Email Delivery History (via the Members list) for one of the subgroup members. The latest posting in the subgroup should be listed in either "Most Recent Successful" or "Most Recent Unsuccessful". It may not appear immediately, depending on how long the message is being retried, but ultimately you should be able to determine whether Groups.io believes it sent the message to that member.

Messages sent from outside seem to be handled correctly, but messages
generated on the website are not.

Still mystified.

Me too.

I don't know of any systematic difference between the way a message generated by New Topic or Reply is handled, versus one that was sent in by email. Both go through the same mechanisms for moderation and distribution.

There are differences in the message headers produced, of course, reflecting the different origin. The Display Name in the From may be different, as well as the Message-ID and various X- fields relating to the origin of the message.

Shal


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Thank you for your reply. It does not explain the issue. I double checked. I originally created the message while in the subgroup, and it shows as a message in the subgroup message stream, but groups.io sent (or placed, not sure) the message into the parent group. It was not sent to any of the members. I looked at the gmail header in the message that was sent from the parent group, and there is no mention of the subgroup in the header. I tested it again, just to make sure that I was not in the parent group when I thought I was in the subgroup, with the result that the message shows in the message stream but was never sent anywhere, to the members list or to the parent group. I looked at the settings to see if there is an option that causes messages to NOT be sent to the list, but I see no such option.

I control both the owner email and am a member of the parent and subgroup under a different email address, and I've used both to test things. Messages sent from outside seem to be handled correctly, but messages generated on the website are not.

Still mystified.

STAR,

For one of the other subgroups, however, the message often does not go
anywhere (it shows as a valid message, but no one receives it in
email), and sometimes get posted as pending in the parent group.
Neither of these seem correct to me.

Neither is correct. Assuming the members of that subgroup are set to receive messages, and that the message doesn't have any special hashtags, it should be emailed to the subgroup members. It should not post in the parent group unless someone forwarded it there.

One factor that sometimes confounds Gmail users is that Gmail hides your own message on return from the group, so it can be misleading to post to an email list and then try to check that you receive it back. Groups.io has a work-around to this problem, in your Account set "I always want copies of my own emails".

Can anyone suggest what to check and correct?

For messages that "aren't sent" from ActionTeam I'd cross-check using more than one subscribed address - one to post a message and the other to check for receipt.

With an example in hand of a message which was posted to ActionTeam that landed in the main group's Pending I'd use the View Source link to have a careful look at the messages' header. That should tell the story of how it came to arrive there.

Shal


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A bunch of people have had a discussion group (a majordomo list) for 20 some years, and the Owner/Modersator
has fallen too ill to continue. They are interested in moving to Groups.io to some extent. Some of them suggested
usnet or Facebook but that will not satisfy them as well.
I am in this because most of the members are members of my main group.
The focus of the two bunches of us is different and that is a good thing.

?They currently have no Files, Photos, or Database features, but they do have a For Sale/Wanted feature.
That is a valuable feature because my group does not, and there is no other place to do any commerce in
our field of interest.

So is there a way to have a For Sale/Want ads within Groups.io?

Thanks,
Richard

I think what you want to do is UNSUBSCRIBE from the group, not DELETE YOUR ACCOUNT on Groups.io.

Deleting your account will remove you from every group you belong to AND also delete your account on Groups.io... unless you're the owner of any of the groups you subscribe to. Groups.io does not allow a group to become ownerless via unsubscription by the only Owner.

If you really do want to delete your Groups.io account, you need to replace yourself as owner of any groups you own... after which you can delete your account.

Jim H



Received from Frances at 3/6/2019 06:35 PM UTC:

Hello,

I am having a bit of a problem with the edit message feature. I tried to edit one of the messages of my group earlier this evening and when I clicked on Save and Send to Group it did nothing. If I clicked Save and Don't Send it saved the updates. Is there something I'm doing wrong?

Thanks,

On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 05:39 PM, Andy W wrote:

I tested this by loading 10GB of files into my premium plan and it did not work.? I received no notification at 80% or even 100% when the upload function became unavailable.? I reported this to support on 30-Jan-19 (ticket number 8261) but have had no response so far.

I've had an update from Mark today on this. He confirmed that the notifications are not being sent but does not have an ETA for a fix.

Andy

Peter,

Perhaps it is worth clearing your browser cache and refreshing the display.

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On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 02:30 PM, Maureen wrote:

This brings up another question - is there an easy way to calculate total data usage for the account?? I can see that there is usage info at the bottom of both the Files and Photos pages so those are easy to add up.?

See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Managing-Attachments%2C-Files-and-Photos,?under the section "How can the actual storage used be checked?"

To my knowledge, accounts have no storage quota, only groups.

Are Files and Photos the only data users that count towards the account limit?

See?/static/pricing#what-is-counted-towards-the-storage-limits-for-my-group.

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Bruce
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On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 03:37 PM, Frances wrote:

But does "locked group" mean restricted group?

No. It means the group/subgroup has been locked, making it read-only.

This function is only available in Premium groups (see /static/pricing).?

Does activating the "locked group" message end the ability of the group owner / moderators to approve a non-member post?

Not by itself. At the same time, if?you don't have a Premium/Enterprise group, or have no plans to ever lock your group, there is little reason to set up a corresponding Member Notice, much less make it Active.?

[A case could be made that displaying the Locked Group option among the Member Notice types in a group that is not Premium is a bug. But so would be Direct Add; or for that matter, Pending Subscription in a non-Restricted group.]

Is activation of the "locked group" notice incompatible with allowing non-subscribers to post? "Allow Non Subscribers to Post

Posts by non-subscribers will be moderated, instead of rejected."

Once you actually lock the group, no one will be able to post, regardless of subscription status.

At the very bottom of the Settings page, those having a Premium group should find a baby-blue "Lock Group" button. The way I read it, the corresponding Member Notice is sent in reply if someone attempts to post to the group while it is locked.

See?/g/updates/message/40. This feature has received no discussion in either GMF or beta, so this brief, one-sentence blurb is pretty much all we have on the topic.

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Bruce?
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