Hi all,

This week's change log:



Feel free to reply to this topic if you'd like to comment on the
changes. Or better yet, if you expect a lot of discussion start a new
topic (or rejoin an existing one) about a specific change.

NEW: Subgroups have a new 'Allow Parent Subs To Post' settings
checkbox.

Yay! Now I don't have to let the world post to my PTA group's board subgroup, just so that rank-and-file members can.

CHANGE: Reverted previous change to how notification messages are
handled. Now, as originally, notification messages do not follow the
group moderation setting.

Yay, sort-of.

This still leaves events as a back-door around moderation, if members are allowed to create events. That could be significant for groups that rely on NuM to weed out spammers before they post.

CHANGE: Got Yahoo transfers working yet again.
CHANGE: Yahoo transfers now require a year of premium.

There is already a thread here for this:
/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/29573645#14870


Comments about these are welcome:

BUGFIX: When a member sent a message via the group directory, they
were offered the ability to use one of the group messages as a
template. Now, we limit that to mods/owners only.
NEW: For premium groups, when viewing a pending message from a non-
member, new 'Approve & Add Sender' button for owners/mods with
appropriate privileges.
NEW: Mods/owners can now edit messages in topics that have been
locked.
BUGFIX: Search queries that contained a single double quote were
failing because it was not properly escaped.
BUGFIX: Add organizer info to #cal-notice notifications.
CHANGE: For enterprise groups that have disabled signups, allow
+subscribe email commands if the person already exists and is
subscribed to the parent group.
INTERNAL: Fix issue preventing paging me when the smtp check process
fails.
INTERNAL: Set Elasticsearch processes to automatically reboot when
they crash.

Please call out any you find significant.

Shal


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Bob,

The first two settings (in bold)seem to say that even moderators' (and
owners also?) posts are moderated, Hmmmm.
...
Only moderators can post to the group.

This one blocks members from posting. It corresponds to the Announcement Group checkbox in the Spam Control section of the group's Settings.

* * Posts to this group require approval from the moderators.*

This one affects everyone, moderators and owners included. Of course, any given subscriber could have the "Override: not moderated" posting privilege (though I generally recommend against using that).

Most strange is that Messages are set to reply to sender so, ...

Not at all surprising, given that this is an Announcement group. The other likely choice for an announcement group would be sending replies to the +owner address.

unless one knows a fair bit about groups.io, how does one get the Mama
owner or moderator to help you?

Well, one way is to reply to a message. That won't post to the group but it will reply back to whichever moderator/owner sent the message.

Or one might use the group's +owner address, listed at the bottom of the group's home page.

And of course the group might tell members how to contact the mods/owners in their Welcome message, in their Group Guidelines, or even in a periodic message.

Shal


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Thank you friend
I am getting them now, it was a boo boo because I had myself down as digest
mode and not individual
Thanks
Sugar

If an Owner appoints a Subscriber to the role of Moderator a checklist appears that enables the appointee to carry out certain functions - the Moderator Permissions. Once saved if the Owner returns to that Subscriber's "page" later the checklist of Permissions is clearly visible.

However, as far as I can see, the Moderator in question cannot see a list of what Permissions they have (and do not have) although some may be deduced from which tabs are visible down the left hand side of the web page of the group in question.

The first question is have I missed something and there is somewhere where a moderator can see the list of their Permissions? (If so, where is it!)

If I haven't missed something then should there be some way of a moderator seeing a definitive list of the Permissions they do and don't have?

Chris

Group Settings for Mamas-corner

• ?Only moderators can post to the group.
• ?Posts to this group require approval from the moderators.
• ?Messages are set to reply to sender.
• ?Subscriptions to this group require approval from the moderators.
• ?Archives are visible to subscribers only.
• ?Members can edit their posts.
• ?Members can set their subscriptions to no email.

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Received from Sugar Lopez at 2/17/2019 12:47 AM UTC:

I am not getting anything from that group in ny in box

How about in your trash/junk folder?

She just checked my account again and she reset it to individual mail

And what was it set to before it was reset to individual emails? The answer to that might go a long way toward explaining your problem.

Jim H

On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 09:01 AM, Leigh Anderson wrote:

Which field gets moved, and which field remains unmoved? I.E., if I have a hashtag #green and I put hashtag #blue in Alias, to the #blue tags wind up merged with #green (and nothing remaining in #blue), or is #green absorbed into #blue?

Also, is the process reversible? By clearing the Alias field, are the messages and hashtags restore to the original condition?

Using your example of #green with an alias of #blue:? All messages that have the hashtag #green will have that hashtag changed to #blue.? You can do this for more than one hashtag so they all get changed to the alias.? If you later change your mind, you can remove the alias, but the ones that have been changed do not revert to their previous hashtag.? You'd have to change those topic hashtags manually.

Duane
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When doing many invites (or direct adds in a premium group), a short (?) hold is placed on the procedure to reduce the chances of a spammer using them.? The threshold is about 20.? You can include everyone that you want to be included so there will only will one delay.? If/when your 'batch' is approved, usually within 24 hours, everyone will receive a notice of the procedure.

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Hi All,
I am just starting to use Groups.io as we merge over from Yahoo.
I tried to invite all 205 members but it said that I had reached the maximum number of email invites, but I cannot find anywhere what that maximum number is.
Does anyone know?
Or how do I get my 205 members into Groups.io.

Which field gets moved, and which field remains unmoved? I.E., if I have a hashtag #green and I put hashtag #blue in Alias, to the #blue tags wind up merged with #green (and nothing remaining in #blue), or is #green absorbed into #blue?

Also, is the process reversible? By clearing the Alias field, are the messages and hashtags restore to the original condition?

Ok, many of you are firm on this point. We will see how it goes. You can close this ticket.

Br Peter

You only have to do it once per person. I think it’s a small price to pay for safety.

Don

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There's some confusion here.? The title says your messages aren't making it to the group, but the body says you're not receiving messages from the group.? We'll need to know which is correct before we can offer possibly useful advice.

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Thank you, Frances, but that is not the case.

She can post to the group, but nothing comes in her email inbox. ?Could this be a bug like the next post from Sugar?

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