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On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 03:07 PM, Andy W wrote:

Hi Duane,

Online, there's the option to make a private reply.

That's not immediately obvious.? Where are you looking for that?

The group must first be set up to allow it.

Go to Admin>Settings>Message Policies>Reply To. If the "Remove Other Reply Options" box immediately below is unchecked, you should be able to send private replies via the web interface. Once those settings are saved, the Private (and perhaps other) buttons found at the bottom-right of the online message editor will allow you to toggle between permitted reply options.

Hope this helps,
Bruce
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On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 02:56 PM, Anita L wrote:

I set up a calendar event so my list gets a reminder every day with some links for games we like to play. Do the members on special notices also get this?

Normally, they do not.

If you want people on special notices to receive all calendar reminders, you can edit the #cal-reminder hashtag so they are sent as special notices (i.e.: tic the "Special" box), thus forcing everyone to receive these emails. Having said that, I recommend that you respect your subscriber's preference to read messages online.

Hope this helps,
Bruce
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Hi Duane,

Online, there's the option to make a private reply.

That's not immediately obvious.? Where are you looking for that?

Andy

John-- I hope I have not been too much of an alarmist. There is a big difference between "a group free of tracking, status reports, friend requests, adverts and general intrusion" and the kind of privacy that protecting health records from prying employers, journalists conversing with vulnerable sources,or other high profile situations require. Groups.io serves well for the first kind of privacy, but any service that uses email has the privacy level of postcards. Postcards are public, but not conspicuously, and it takes considerable effort to exploit them. Emails can be subpoenaed, bad actors sometimes get to them, security breaches occur.? And any service depends on the honesty and integrity of its operators who must show a profit.

Groups.io does not exploit the messages on its servers in any way that I can see, which is one of the reasons I am an enthusiastic supporter of Groups.io. Many free services exploit the data on their systems for revenue. This is a good reason to upgrade to paid premium service or donate to Groups.io. The lights won't stay on at Groups.io if the bills aren't paid.

If you are emphasizing privacy to your group, I might mention to them that email is not private, and suggest that members review the terms of service of their email provider. I use Gmail myself, with the knowledge that Google is scanning my email just like they scan my Google searches. I simply accept it as the price of Gmail's convenience. I haven't looked at the Oath: (Yahoo) terms of service, but when Verizon acquired Yahoo and AOL, they told their shareholders that they intended to use Yahoo and AOL to build ad revenues and Google's efforts their have been successful.

I may be more cynical than Shal. I've seen egregious conduct in business when big bucks are on the table and the lawyers say the TOS protects them.
Best, Marv

I have a quesiton. I set up a calendar event so my list gets a reminder every day with some links for games we like to play.

Do the members on special notices also get this?

Thanks

Anita?

On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 12:21 PM, Ellen Bourne wrote:

can people reply to your email individually or does it have to group email?

Those that choose to receive individual messages will have access to the posters email address, so can choose to reply directly.? Online, there's the option to make a private reply.? In this case, the senders email address is exposed.? If the recipient replies, it becomes on off-list conversation.

Duane
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When emailing the group and you have not set your profile for public view - - My question is can people reply to your email individually or does it have to group email??
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"When things in your life are not adding up, it's time to start subtracting."

I thought it would be something like that, but just wanted to check. On previous Yahoo groups I had the problem that people did not realise it was their email address that was subscribed, and they would come back with queries as to why a different email address did not work. That is why I decided on Groups.io, it is so much easier to do something about it, other than despair. The hacking problems have always come from hotmail accounts, people stuck in Nigeria needing $3000 to tide them over. I think everyone is alert to that now, but I just delete that membership for a while.
Thanks for all your help
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Hi,

if you change your account email address, an email is sent to the new address you specify with a confirmation link.? At that point you are also logged out of Groups.io with your old email address. If you click the confirmation link on the email at the new address all your groups and settings are transferred and you are logged back in to Groups.io - all very good.? What happens though if you make a mistake when typing the new email address (perhaps a typo creating a non-existent address or worse, someone else's address)?? You cannot login with your old email address and you don't receive a confirmation link as expected at your new address.? How do you recover from that?

Andy

Also correct. Even though a member may log in using their account at another service to identify them, that service won't have access to Groups.io.

Although, as in a recent case for me, I Direct Added a member using an email address they provided.They went to the Groups.io login page and saw the ability to login via Google and promptly did that with an different email address thinking the two would be connected in some way.? Groups.io just created another account with their Google email address that was not connected to any group.

Andy

Good morning from cool sunny Arizona.
If your Powerpoint does not require sound, "save" it as a PDF.
Works great. Let Acrobat do the work.
Good luck.
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Marv
I do not have the level of IT skills of the other members of this group, so do not fully follow the details. Most of my group members will already have gmail accounts, and use Facebook groups. Many, like me, do not appreciate receiving a flood of extraneous material along with wanted group communication, and will be receptive to change. For me, that is the real purpose of the group, I realise that little data is private. Most people do not much care about privacy, but a few do, and I am promoting this as a group free of tracking, status reports, friend requests, adverts and general intrusion. From what you say, I am reasonably reassured that signing in via Facebook or Google will not result in this happening on the Groups.io account. If it happens on their Facebook accounts, then they already do not care about privacy, and it can justifiably blame it on Facebook. I want to assure people without Facebook accounts that no Facebook stuff will appear as a result of sign-ins via Facebook/Google unless it is actually posted by the people signing in.
For example, I would be very unhappy about Google using gathered email addresses to send messages to the group, but I am not too bothered about them knowing the addresses. Google has not done this with other groups in the past, even Google groups.?
When promoting the group I might miss out the bit about signing in via Facebook and waffle about "integration" instead. You have reassured me that I am being honest when I say "no adverts, no tracking, no friend requests" on the Groups.io group.
Thank you for these very full replies
John Clube

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Sal,?

Still have lots of cox.net users whose messages are still be bounced.?

Bill Halte

Shal is correct. I got email and websites tangled up. Mia Culpa.

If you authenticate with Google through OpenID, Google see that you logged into Groups.io, but not which groups you've joined or which groups you have posted to or received email from. However, if you happen to use Gmail, Google knows all about your email, both addressing and content. Generally, I assume that all email, Gmail or not, is public, similar to post cards. Even when email is encrypted, which it often is these days, you depend on your recipients not forwarding your messages indiscriminately or inadvertently.

If you are concerned about keeping your interaction with Groups.io as private as possible, your best bet is to take the "no email" option and interact solely through the groups.io web site using a Tor browser.? Even then, you depend on the other members of your group not being snooped on or forwarding your messages insecurely. When privacy is crucial, anything that is email-based, or has an email component, is a weak choice.

Privacy on Groups.io does not concern me much because my purpose in using Groups.io is for public discussion of topics of interest. Where privacy is crucial, there are better platform choices. For instance, HIPAA compliant medical messaging systems are much more private than email.
Best, Marv

Probably the easiest way is to export all the PowerPoint slides as JPEGs or PNGs and upload them to a photo album, where the user can page through them. You would lose animations, sound, presenter's notes, etc...but by applying an appropriate naming convention and uploading the files in sequence the sort order would be maintained.

I don't think I'll be doing the wiki thing again.

Bruce
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I thought possibly saving a *.pps rather than .?.ppt file might play directly in a browser. ?No joy, at least not with Chrome. However I tried creating a google SLIDES doc rather than PowerPoint, and of course if you post a link it opens in Chrome (didn’t try MSIE.). But the user needs to know to hit a play drop down, otherwise s/he’s just editing the slides. ?Maybe there’s a way to automate playing/full screen/slideshow/etc. via google slides?

There’s a few different apps to create page flipping of a PDF (which opens directly in Chrome) by converting it to html. Example:

It is good to know that there is some barrier to flow of information through to Google and Facebook, which do not seem to be in the sea kayaking market anyway. I have always felt they must be very disappointed with my data. I would rather there were no links, but if people think that will make it easier, more members might join. I seem to stay logged in without either Google or Facebook, so I suspect the additional log in method is irrelevant, and I do not think I can bar it anyway. I find it is usually hotmail addresses that are hacked, and I will just have to react in the same way.
Thank you very much for your help, it is very reassuring
John Clube

Bill,

Any quick easy fixes?

Alas, no.

User says they do not have any spam rules.

That doesn't matter.

A normal service-provider spam filter, or filters made by the user, wouldn't cause the messages to be rejected. Instead they'd divert the messages to the user's Spam, Junk, or Trash folder.

A service-provider filter that rejects (rather than diverts) spam messages is a bit of an anomaly. The user will have to show that response Reason to the technical support of their service provider and demand that the provider whitelist Groups.io, or at least your group, so that the user can receive your group's messages.

In my opinion, if the service provider is unwilling or unable to do that, then they aren't a provider worth using. The user will never be able to trust that the provider isn't rejecting other valuable messages. And worse, the user would never know because most senders don't provide a mechanism to learn that messages were rejected.

Shal


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