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Thank you. I just joined the forum and I missed all that

There was a recent change, announced on beta, and discussed here, /g/GroupManagersForum/topic/29618107

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I searched the messages and I don't see this listed.
When I first set-up my list and calendar I could send notices to the members reminding them of upcoming dates
Just recently, instead of just posting to the group, I have to approve every calendar notice that comes out
Did I mess up a setting somewhere or has there been a change in the system?
I really liked the notices going out without having to be approved
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Cara Hogan

On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 04:58 PM, Andy W wrote:

I think the fact that it's greyed out initially and off to one side tends to hide it

If I remember the discussion correctly, that was by design.? The logic being that these are GROUPS, so private contact isn't really encouraged on many.? Of course, there are the Freecycle type groups where all responses default to the the sender and the button becomes Group or something, reversing the logic.

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Hi Bruce & Duane,

thanks. for your responses.? The option Bruce mentioned was already unchecked. I've played around with the other settings and also looked at the button at the bottom right of the reply window to see how it toggles.? I think the fact that it's greyed out initially and off to one side tends to hide it

That does seem to provide an alternative method of contacting someone on the group other than going via the directory.

Andy.?

Anita --

For completeness, I should also mention that if you really do have a special event coming up, "send as special notice" (vs "normal message") can be selected when the calendar reminder is set up.

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Bruce
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On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 02:07 PM, Andy W wrote:

Online, there's the option to make a private reply.

That's not immediately obvious.? Where are you looking for that?

If the default is to reply to the group, there may be a button at the lower right of the Reply box that says Private, which will change the green Reply to Group button to blue and it will say Reply to Sender.? But that can be disabled as a setting by the group owner and I should have said this in my initial reply.? Sometimes it's difficult to keep up with all the details, changes, and improvements here!

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On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 03:07 PM, Andy W wrote:

Hi Duane,

Online, there's the option to make a private reply.

That's not immediately obvious.? Where are you looking for that?

The group must first be set up to allow it.

Go to Admin>Settings>Message Policies>Reply To. If the "Remove Other Reply Options" box immediately below is unchecked, you should be able to send private replies via the web interface. Once those settings are saved, the Private (and perhaps other) buttons found at the bottom-right of the online message editor will allow you to toggle between permitted reply options.

Hope this helps,
Bruce
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On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 02:56 PM, Anita L wrote:

I set up a calendar event so my list gets a reminder every day with some links for games we like to play. Do the members on special notices also get this?

Normally, they do not.

If you want people on special notices to receive all calendar reminders, you can edit the #cal-reminder hashtag so they are sent as special notices (i.e.: tic the "Special" box), thus forcing everyone to receive these emails. Having said that, I recommend that you respect your subscriber's preference to read messages online.

Hope this helps,
Bruce
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Hi Duane,

Online, there's the option to make a private reply.

That's not immediately obvious.? Where are you looking for that?

Andy

John-- I hope I have not been too much of an alarmist. There is a big difference between "a group free of tracking, status reports, friend requests, adverts and general intrusion" and the kind of privacy that protecting health records from prying employers, journalists conversing with vulnerable sources,or other high profile situations require. Groups.io serves well for the first kind of privacy, but any service that uses email has the privacy level of postcards. Postcards are public, but not conspicuously, and it takes considerable effort to exploit them. Emails can be subpoenaed, bad actors sometimes get to them, security breaches occur.? And any service depends on the honesty and integrity of its operators who must show a profit.

Groups.io does not exploit the messages on its servers in any way that I can see, which is one of the reasons I am an enthusiastic supporter of Groups.io. Many free services exploit the data on their systems for revenue. This is a good reason to upgrade to paid premium service or donate to Groups.io. The lights won't stay on at Groups.io if the bills aren't paid.

If you are emphasizing privacy to your group, I might mention to them that email is not private, and suggest that members review the terms of service of their email provider. I use Gmail myself, with the knowledge that Google is scanning my email just like they scan my Google searches. I simply accept it as the price of Gmail's convenience. I haven't looked at the Oath: (Yahoo) terms of service, but when Verizon acquired Yahoo and AOL, they told their shareholders that they intended to use Yahoo and AOL to build ad revenues and Google's efforts their have been successful.

I may be more cynical than Shal. I've seen egregious conduct in business when big bucks are on the table and the lawyers say the TOS protects them.
Best, Marv

I have a quesiton. I set up a calendar event so my list gets a reminder every day with some links for games we like to play.

Do the members on special notices also get this?

Thanks

Anita?

On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 12:21 PM, Ellen Bourne wrote:

can people reply to your email individually or does it have to group email?

Those that choose to receive individual messages will have access to the posters email address, so can choose to reply directly.? Online, there's the option to make a private reply.? In this case, the senders email address is exposed.? If the recipient replies, it becomes on off-list conversation.

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When emailing the group and you have not set your profile for public view - - My question is can people reply to your email individually or does it have to group email??
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"When things in your life are not adding up, it's time to start subtracting."

I thought it would be something like that, but just wanted to check. On previous Yahoo groups I had the problem that people did not realise it was their email address that was subscribed, and they would come back with queries as to why a different email address did not work. That is why I decided on Groups.io, it is so much easier to do something about it, other than despair. The hacking problems have always come from hotmail accounts, people stuck in Nigeria needing $3000 to tide them over. I think everyone is alert to that now, but I just delete that membership for a while.
Thanks for all your help
klJohn Clube

Hi,

if you change your account email address, an email is sent to the new address you specify with a confirmation link.? At that point you are also logged out of Groups.io with your old email address. If you click the confirmation link on the email at the new address all your groups and settings are transferred and you are logged back in to Groups.io - all very good.? What happens though if you make a mistake when typing the new email address (perhaps a typo creating a non-existent address or worse, someone else's address)?? You cannot login with your old email address and you don't receive a confirmation link as expected at your new address.? How do you recover from that?

Andy

Also correct. Even though a member may log in using their account at another service to identify them, that service won't have access to Groups.io.

Although, as in a recent case for me, I Direct Added a member using an email address they provided.They went to the Groups.io login page and saw the ability to login via Google and promptly did that with an different email address thinking the two would be connected in some way.? Groups.io just created another account with their Google email address that was not connected to any group.

Andy

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