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On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 08:22 AM, Chris Jones wrote:

In short I have been unable to identify any situation whereby the deletion of an attached photograph is the subject of a notification back to its originator.

Chris -- Attached are screenshots from my test this morning, just to confirm what I did yesterday.

1.jpg -- Original message I sent to my test group using a Subscriber (GMail) account. I am selecting Edit Message.
2.jpg -- Me deleting the photo with my Owner account. As soon as I click on "Save Without Sending," the message redisplays with an Edited tag.
3.jpg -- Notification I received back from groups.io at my GMail account.

Note that it says "A complete copy of the message is attached." Ironically, when I scroll down the attached message still contains the photo...and if I click on it, the clickable link still works, and the original photo is downloaded! But there is no hint of it in the online message archive, or in the Emailed Photos folder.

This is somewhat disconcerting, but the fact remains that I got a notification back. Please consider the possibility that notifications are being sent but your email provider is filtering them.

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Bruce





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Hi Foon,

Please help me find instructions on how to make it a restricted group?

Using the menu options on the left go to Admin > Settings.?? Scroll down to the Spam Control section and you will see the restricted membership option checkbox at the top of the list.

If you are thinking of getting (or have) a premium plan then this gives you additional options for adding members to your group. See the GMF Wiki at
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Andy

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 10:52 PM, I wrote:

So is the assertion that members are notified if an attached photo they emailed is deleted actually true? I accept that it might have been once but at the moment... it would appear not. It certainly didn't work for me.

I realised that there was a further scenario to test; what happens if a Moderator deletes an attached photograph at the moderation stage and then releases the message to the group in question?

I tried it; I posted as a "member" with an attached photo*; I then received notification of the pending message to my Moderator's email address. I then deleted the photo attachment and released the message to the test group. It was duly posted on the group (minus the photo) and the "posted" email back to me as an ordinary member turned up, again minus the photo. There was no notification within that message that there been any sort of deletion (or other editing) and there was no separate message to that effect either. As an aside Edits performed as part of the moderation process do not show up with a blue Edit flag either, just in case anyone was wondering.

In short I have been unable to identify any situation whereby the deletion of an attached photograph is the subject of a notification back to its originator.

Chris

* A slightly drawn out process because I found that my "ordinary membership" had been surreptitiously upgraded to being a moderator, so I had to put my alter ego back on moderation. :)

Hello

I've just signed up to groupd.io.

I've created a new group. Please help me find instructions on how to make it a restricted group? I've been searching and cannot find the settings.

Thank you!
Foon

You can create/name the main and subgroups, but there's no way to move messages around.? It has been suggested on the beta group (official suggestion box for the site) in the past, but has not been implemented.? If there aren't too many messages, you could manually send them to the new subgroup and delete them from the main group, but all would be attributed to you.? My 2nd suggestion would be to set up the group/subgroup as you want and just start over by deleting the current messages in the main group.

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I'm new to groups.io. I created a main group, but now I want to see if I can convert that to a subgroup and create a new main group. Or else move the messages of the main group to a subgroup.

The situation is that there are messages on the main group that I'm realizing are far better in a subgroup (more privacy, fewer people seeing it, etc). I want to generalize the role of the main group and so move the more specific messages into a subgroup.

Is there any way to go about doing this? Or what would you suggest I do?

Resolution of the issue from support...

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"I have tracked down and fixed the problem. The issue was that the record in the database where we keep the next message number for your group had not been updated for some reason after the last successful message was posted. So we ended up with a unique constraint violation when trying to add a new message with an already existing message number. I've never actually seen this happen before in the system. Please let me know if you have any other issues. "

Thanks, but I very much doubt more than a couple of my group members use the web interface. Almost certainly none of those who are currently bouncing. Email works fine (well, normally :) I just couldn't find enough information on the wikis and in the archives for this group, the Help group, and the Beta group, to allow me to tell my bouncers what to expect. Fortunately, one person was able to forward to me the bounce probe, and problem is solved - provided Charter gets its act together, that is.

Holly

Holly -- It is difficult to purposely create a bouncing situation unless a provider is acting up. Now that you have an actual copy of the bounce probe (I have never seen one), I suggest you upload it to the Files section (as a PDF or whatever) so we can refer others to it when they ask the same question.

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If you're working with folks directly (not via the group email), you could have them check their own status:
"Any user can view their own bounce history by going into the Subscription page of their groups and clicking on Email Delivery History, or by going into their Account page and clicking on Recent Bounces."

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I did, as I stated, go to the wikis, and read that section. It didn't answer the questions I posted here. Fortunately one member of my list, at my request, forwarded the email she received. So, for those who are interested:

The bounce probe actually goes to the bouncing member's email address.

It explains that email delivery has stopped to that member because of bounces, and gives several possible causes for bouncing.

And it provides a link the recipient can click on for unbouncing the member's account.

My friend used the link and was unbounced immediately. The other bouncing addresses were for members who are less computer-savvy, so may have to do some hand-holding, but at least I know how this process works now. It would be nice if the wikis could be updated with this information, so list owners who've never been through this process before know exactly what to tell the bouncing members to expect.

No, I'm not volunteering to do that - my understanding is sketchy and I've never edited a wiki in my life! :)

Holly

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 05:13 PM, Termicat wrote:

I am having the same problem with a charter member. She is getting so few emails from the group.

?impin012.msg.chrl.nc.charter.net cmsmtp ESMTP server not available AUP#I-1300

Not sure how to help her out. She is not the best with computers either.

There have been several threads here in GMF over the past year regarding delivery problems with charter/rr/spectrum, including mail server downtime, inadequate capacity, and even greylisting of the groups.io domain. Glib as it may sound, this suggests that the best advice you could give your subscriber may be to find another service provider.

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Bruce
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On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 10:14 PM, Chris Jones wrote:

I have a local broadband failure here so at the moment I'm working via a data dongle?

Normal Service has been resumed!

I have not been able to confirm that the deletion of an attached photograph (not the message to which it was attached) results in an "edit notification" of any sort. I uploaded an attached photo as an ordinary member to a certain test group. I then changed status (different log in) to a that of a moderator and released the message, which duly appeared in the web UI. I received an email (with the attachment) to my ordinary member's email address as normal. I then deleted the photo; the "Edited" flag duly appeared on the web UI but no notification of the edit was sent to my "member's" email address.

So is the assertion that members are notified if an attached photo they emailed is deleted actually true? I accept that it might have been once but at the moment... it would appear not. It certainly didn't work for me.

Chris

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 05:14 PM, Chris Jones wrote:

I haven't been able to replicate that yet, but I'll try it another way.

Well, I sit corrected. It seems that:

• Deleting an attachment from a message generates a notification to the original post-er and the message shows as Edited.
• Deleting a photo from a message (using the Edit Message function) does the same.
• Deleting a photo from the Emailed Photos folder shows the message as Edited but does not generate a notification.

I will update the corresponding wiki page accordingly, but it would help if others could confirm this behavior.

Does deleting the original message notify its sender?

Not that I'm aware of.

Regards,
Bruce
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Your best bet would be to keep an eye on the thread about it by joining the beta group, .? At the very least, there will be an announcement if it becomes available again, though it may be a new topic.

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