I use the calendar to send out notices to my group members about regular meetings, eg, monthly or fortnightly. This reminder a couple of days before has proven useful in getting more people to meetings.

However, we do not have a meeting in January as too many people are away. In another group, we have meetings on Mondays, and when Monday is a public holiday, there is no meeting.

Now I have the meeting notices set up as repeating events, monthly or fportnightly. To date, when I remember, I delete the offending event before it occurs. Mostly though, I forget and have to issue a message saying it is not going to happen! A bit embarrassing :-(

I would like to be able to define the repeating event to take account of the exceptions which often occur on predictable times, e,g not in January, or not on the first Monday in October.

I cannot see any way to add exceptions to the repeats. Would this be useful to anyone else?

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Donald,

The downside is that once you start the new group, I'm not sure what
happens if you still try to transfer the old messages from Yahoo after
new conversations have started.

The copied messages get assigned message numbers after the current messages, and possibly intermingled with ongoing postings.

This is not a big problem because the copied messages retain their original posting dates, so they appear in the "right" place in topics / messages lists (which are chronologically sorted).

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Brandy,

but I cannot directly add them to groups.io because that's a paid
feature.

In my PTA group I use the "Group Transfer (Premium For One Month)" plan once or twice each year to cover school registration and any major membership drives. It is a one-time payment and the group automatically drops back to Basic after 30 days.

Whether that's worth it to you would depend on how large a list you have, and how much you detest the hassle of following up invitations. At least invitations are more reliable (and tracked) at Groups.io than they were at Y!Groups. Faced with a few hundred parent's email addresses each school year, I've treated the Premium fee as an "in-kind" donation to the PTA.

I think during this time groups.io should open that feature to Yahoo
group owners who are now unable to transfer their groups.

That would open the feature up to spammers. The payment is a way of deterring them, so I don't think it is likely that Groups.io would make it free. Abuse by spammers is why the Direct Add feature disappeared from Yahoo Groups years ago.

You could suggest it anyway. Maybe Mark can figure out another way to prevent abuse.

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On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 16:31:36 -0500, "Brandy Brow"
<brandy@...> wrote:

Thanks, Bruce. Yahoo lets me download the members in CSV, which I did (I have less than 1,000 members), but I cannot directly add them to groups.io because that's a paid feature.

If you can live with leaving the messages on the old Yahoo group and
start new from here on in the new group, how about taking the email
addresses and sending each of them (a few at a time) a link to the new
group to have them join? Or send out some invitations directly from
the group?

The downside is that once you start the new group, I'm not sure what
happens if you still try to transfer the old messages from Yahoo after
new conversations have started.

If your Y!G is still working, you can also wait it out to see what
happens. You would still have the current functionality of Yahoo
Groups until you can transfer or you find out that transfers are no
longer possible (I hope that won't be the case).

Donald


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from Groups.
I thought (upon recognising in one area) this was a restricted Mod practice, but I have now checked 5 of the 20+ grpups including one I 'own' and they are all same.
Download/ Save appears disabled across the board.
Just for when and possible return to work Admins,
cheers and Best for New Year,
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Thanks, Bruce. Yahoo lets me download the members in CSV, which I did (I have less than 1,000 members), but I cannot directly add them to groups.io because that's a paid feature. I think during this time groups.io should open that feature to Yahoo group owners who are now unable to transfer their groups. So for now, all I can do is use the list to manually invite the whole group. :(

I've not used hashtags before, but I'm thinking of creating one to allow moderators to send messages as Special Notices by email, rather than having to use the web interface. I have a couple of questions about how they work.

Topic Duration - does this mean the messages will be deleted after a certain amount of time, or just that subsequent messages with the same subject and hashtag won't be considered part of the same thread?

I would want the messages to be only sent by moderators so I would select "Use by Mods Only". However, what happens when someone attempts to reply to one of these messages? Will they be unable to reply? Will their reply be moderated? Will the reply go through, but not with the hashtag? Some other behavior?

Is the Alias just another name for the same hashtag, or does it have some other function?

Thanks.

Jonathan

On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 04:15 PM, Brandy Brow wrote:

Can I use another export program to transfer my Yahoo groups into Groups.io, even if it's just the members?

You can try PGOffline (). It's supposed to be able to download the members in CSV format. I'm told that??also can be used. See??for a discussion in which one user had some success with this.

Three caveats:

• You will probably need group Owner privileges.
• The recent change in Y!G login process may have broken the functionality of these programs, too.
• I've never actually tried to do it, so I can't be of much further help.

Good luck,
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I'm so mad I waited too long to transfer. Can I use another export program to transfer my Yahoo groups into Groups.io, even if it's just the members? That's all I really care about.

UUUGGHHHHHH

Thank you, Shal. I edited the preferences for the hashtag. It was marked as moderate. And I also found that I was blocking replies by regular members - not what I wanted in this case.?

I so rarely sent special notices, that I am unsure of the rules. It would be great to have a wiki section on this. After the New Year.?

Hiappy holidays.?

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Frances,

I sent a message special notice - I ticked the box AND added the
hashtag #specialnotice.
...
This first message I had to moderate.

I don't think checking the "Send this message as a special notice" box would cause the message to require moderation. That would be up to your Posting Privileges and the group's Moderated setting.

However the hashtag could have that effect if its "Moderated" box is checked.

You need to go to the group's Hashtag page and Edit the #specialnotice hashtag to see what options it has. See also the Help page under Hashtags.

Then I replied to my own message, but I took off the hashtag
#specialnotice. Again I have to moderate my message.

How did you take off the hashtag? If you were replying by email and removed it from the subject I don't think that would have any effect: I think the topic subject-match rule ignores hashtags.

And can I reply to a Special Notice message I sent be usual
subscription preferences, rather than special notice? If yes, how?

If the original message did not have a hashtag with the "Special notices" box checked then your replies would not be special notice. Member replies (if allowed) would also not be special notice.

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Hi

I sent a message special notice - I ticked the box AND added the hashtag #specialnotice.

Our group: ?We have restricted membership. New users moderated and approved after 1 post.
I have not changed my email address. I am the owner. My status is correct.

This first message I had to moderate. I thought, okay, sober second thought! Then I replied to my own message, but I took off the hashtag #specialnotice. Again I have to moderate my message.

So, it leads me to think that either my replies or all replies to "special notice" aka "special message" posts need moderating. Or something is up with Groups.io. Or?

Anyone else seeing this?

And can I reply to a Special Notice message I sent be usual subscription preferences, rather than special notice? If yes, how? Does removing the hashtag from the new message do it?

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If your transfer is from Yahoo, it is on hold due to a change that Yahoo did
internally. It is requiring these guys to find a work around to make the
transfer work.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
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www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
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Don . . .

On Wed, 26 Dec 2018 08:48:00 -0500, "Don Dawson" <dmdawson@...>
wrote:

When will this happen?: send you an email directing you to make the [email protected] member a moderator. We invited “transfer” to our group about a month ago. Thank you.

This is a self-help group, so we have no control over when the
transfer happens.

However, in the GMF group on the Yahoo platform it was mentioned that
transfers are on hold until after the holidays at least. It was also
mentioned that the transfer instructions page was replaced by a banner
announcing the outage. I haven't visited that page but I would believe
that to be true.

Yahoo has been making changes to groups that has made it difficult
lately for groups.io to keep up with the changes. Mark, the owner of
IO, needed a vacation so he decided to do so.

You will apparently have to wait until after the holidays, and then
wait for enough time to have passed for Mark to find a work-around for
Yahoo's changes that have broken what was working for group transfers.
Donald


Join the Icom group, a general Icom discussion group on Groups.io:
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Holiday greetings to Shal and the crew at GROUPS.IO.??? Thanks for making internet groups not only operate correctly, but fun again.? Y'all are the best.? Saludos, David

[mod note: and also to David, Duane, and Bruce (GMF's mods/owners); and the numerous members of GMF who freely give their time to help strangers. That generosity is truly in the spirit of peace, enlightenment, happiness, health and well-being. While holiday greetings are off-topic for GMF, I'm taking this moment of personal privilege to extend good wishes to all of you and yours.

Note that I've added the #testimonials hashtag to this message. This hashtag is the one exception to GMF's usual focus on helping one another, it is set aside for positive experiences as counterpoint to the rest of GMF's focus on things that are confusing, lacking, or broken.]

Paul,

That is why I ssuggested expanding the link title to "Email me a LInk
to Log In". That more exactly says what it means than do the other,
truncated versions.

I've taken the liberty of posting this and some other suggestions to the beta group:



Paul & Everyone,

The message I posted there includes screen shots of the /sendloginlink page, and the "sent" version of the page - which says many of the things our Quick-start page says.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Logging-In

In view of that, do we want to make any revisions to our Quick-start to acknowledge that "Sent" page, or to make our language more consistent with it?

Or do we want to make further suggestions for the site pages?

Shal


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