Frances,

Perhaps say "group members don't even need a password"?

I'm not sure what distinction you're making - I think it is also true of people with no memberships yet.

I suppose I should create a new email address to test it and see if they land at the same page, with no listed groups, or if the site puts them somewhere else (like the Publicly Listed Groups page).

I think it should say "your email address is your account ID".

Good idea. I've added it.

Shal, could you split up the blocks of text?

I don't really care for single-sentence paragraphs, they start to look too much like steps or bullet items. I've left them together by topic, but gave each of them an emphasized lead-in that I think helps tie the paragraphs together. I also tightened up the wording a bit. I did split off that last sentence.

You don't need to go to groups.io AND then use the link.
Just use the link in your browser.

Thanks, I think your suggestions have made it a clearer and better page.

Shal


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On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 11:41 AM, Frances wrote:

Just a suggestion - take this page?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Message-composition-tips-and-tricks
out of Quick-Start Guide. Put it Advice to Group Members, Topics and Messages, perhaps.

It isn't quick start and is daunting to newcomers!

Frances

Done!

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I double-checked my own preferences in Profile, based on the advice on this page -?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Message-composition-tips-and-tricks
And that was properly set. See 1.3 ?Select your text markup language in your profile

I would suggest two things - easy - edit the wiki page to show that you shouldn't strip out HTML messages in Group Settings if you want the toolbar. That is in addition to the profile preferences.

Done!

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Bob,

One, single warning; at one time the "Email me a link" was yellow, now
it's green and at one time I think it was blue.

Yeah, the site is a moving target. If anyone notices it change again we can always update the page.

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On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 06:57 PM, Bob Bellizzi wrote:

at one time the "Email me a link" was yellow, now it's green and at one time I think it was blue.
This could be a possible issue.

This may be being pernickity but it doesn't actually say "Email me a link"; it says Email Link To Log In. To "those in the know" the meaning is perfectly clear; those anyone a bit uncertain (and a lot of the exchanges on this Group seem to be based on them) its meaning may not be entirely clear.

I know the text is not under the control of this group but IMHO it would be better if it said Request Link to Log In. Is it worth asking Mark to consider a change?

Chris

Shal:
I like it. Simple and to the point.? My Dad used to say "Micky the Dunce, 1,2,3"
Don't have a clue where that originated.

One, single warning; at one time the "Email me a link" was yellow, now it's green and at one time I think it was blue.
This could be a possible issue.

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Just a suggestion - take this page?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Message-composition-tips-and-tricks
out of Quick-Start Guide. Put it Advice to Group Members, Topics and Messages, perhaps.

It isn't quick start and is daunting to newcomers!

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Hi everyone,

I somehow (recently) made an error in ticking boxes in Message Formatting in Group Settings.

There are two about forcing HTML emails and normalizing HTML. Then a question about attachments. Then a tick box that says:
Plain text only
Strip out HTML messages

Somehow I thought that this referred to attachments. (Not sure why I thought that!) So I didn't have my toolbar in that group.

I double-checked my own preferences in Profile, based on the advice on this page -?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Message-composition-tips-and-tricks
And that was properly set. See 1.3 ?Select your text markup language in your profile

Only by comparing two settings pages from two groups could I finally figure it out. Unticked that box and all is well.

I would suggest two things - easy - edit the wiki page to show that you shouldn't strip out HTML messages in Group Settings if you want the toolbar. That is in addition to the profile preferences.

Second, I wonder whether the attachments setting could go after this "plain text only". Or more info - what it does to your group? Suggestions?

I can send it to Beta after help from you!

Happy holidays,

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I decided to send this new text to a group and I tested as I went.

I think this needs a rewording -?

1. Go to groups.io on your device using your browser on ANY internet enabled device.
   Use this link in your browser:??/sendloginlink

You don't need to go to groups.io AND then use the link.
Just use the link in your browser.

At least not in Firefox on my Mac!

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Shal, could you split up the blocks of text??

Instead of: ?

If you don't receive the Log In email within a few minutes, double-check that you've entered your email address correctly. Also check your email Spam or Junk folders in case your email service didn't deliver the message to your Inbox. The link in the message will expire in an hour; if that happens and you can't log in start at step 1 again.

This process provides you with a login to Groups.io and any groups that you subscribe to using the same address. The login will stay active for 30 days, renewed each time you visit. If your login expires you can repeat this process any time you wish. You may also repeat this process on other computers, browsers, or devices you wish to use, you do not need to log out of one to use another. See?this page?if you want more information.

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Hi

That login URL was new to me! Thanks.

However there are two things not said that I think should be -

- first, it should say that it is easy for group members to login. You have: ?Groups.io makes it simple and free to log in — you don't even need a password.?
Perhaps say "group members don't even need a password"?

- second, this is something that explains a lot - I think it should say "your email address is your account ID". That's why you can't just use any of your email addresses, why you can't send from other addresses without an alias. ?Even the simple statement might provide an "aha" moment!?

Both these are just suggestions, of course!?

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Bob,

Sure, use/or not.

Ok. I've made (a slightly embellished version of) your instructions the "How to log in to your groups" item in Quick Start. And put my lengthier tome back under Advice.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Logging-In

I couldn't help myself, I added a couple brief paragraphs of supplementary information with links after the four steps. Hopefully without impairing the perceived simplicity of the process.

Shal


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Cees,

Just export from yahoo an CVS file , but when I want to upload it to
Groups nothing happens.

"Ralph Mellish, a file clerk at an insurance company, was on his way to work as usual. When [dramatic chord]... nothing happened."

-- Monte Python

Can you give us some detail on what you tried, and what did or did not happen?

You mention a CVS file. Was it exported from a Y!Group database table, and were you trying to create a Database in Groups.io from it? If so, see if this Wiki page helps:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Databases

Or were you actually on the Files page of your Groups.io group? Did you click the blue Upload File button? Did you use the Browse button to find your file on your computer? Did you click the Add button add the file to your group? If so, see if this Wiki page helps. Note that selecting and uploading a single file works just the same:
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On Sat, Dec 22, 2018 at 08:15 PM, <OakhillAvianCenter@...> wrote:

I've tried pasting the code into the custom message section but does not send as a link.? Anyone know if this is possible and if so how??

If it's a simple URL and you want to insert a corresponding anchor tag:

• Highlight the region of the message that you want to make clickable
• Click the "Insert/edit link" button on the toolbar, and
• Paste the URL in the resulting popup box.

If you instead have been provided with raw html ready for pasting into a web site, try changing the editor to "Source Code mode" as follows:

• Click the far-right icon that says "Show Advanced Toolbar"
• Click the far-right icon on the resulting toolbar that says "Source Code."
• A square box will pop up showing your existing message in html.
• Find the location to insert your custom code, paste it in, and close the box with the X at upper right.

Note that groups.io considers some html constructs (iframes, scripting languages, etc.) as potential vectors for malware. Although it might display fine when you switch back out of Source Code mode, it's possible that what you want will be stripped out when you save it. So be prepared for frustration along those lines.

Good luck,
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I am a relatively new group admin.? I searched the archives but couldn't find anything on this situation.? I would like to use the HTML code for an embeded Invite link to a facebook group in an invite.? I've tried pasting the code into the custom message section but does not send as a link.? Anyone know if this is possible and if so how?? Thanks in Advance, John

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On Sat, Dec 22, 2018 at 01:29 PM, Victoria wrote:

So maybe I?ve got s.th. wrong in the settings?

Victoria; further to Duane's reply it would be worth your having a look at the email version of your Test Post sent out by Groups.io; I would expect it to show your Display Name (Victoria) followed by<owner...> etc after it, rather than your own personal email address.

What your screen shots show is exactly the point that was under discussion last April, so I very much doubt if it is down to anything you have done (or left undone) in your group settings.

Mark is away until 3rd January so there is no point in rushing to post anything on beta in the next few days. I'll try to rework my beta post of last April and post the draft here to see what reaction it gets on GMF before submitting it on beta.

Chris

On Sat, Dec 22, 2018 at 07:29 AM, Victoria wrote:

So maybe I?ve got s.th. wrong in the settings?

No, that's what happens, unfortunately, and is what Shal and Chris have been discussing.? I also feel that it shouldn't be listed under the personal Display Name of the poster in this case.? Nor should the personal DN show in the Edit trail.

Duane
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