I'm with Shal.? I have accounts in other places where I don't need to use a password but am identified by other means.??
If you search for "login" you will find more than one dictionary definition that indicates, nothing about using a password but does say to enter your identity to be allowed to use a system.

In the case of Groups.io, when you ask groups.io to send you a link to log in, the system identifies you automatically and sends you the link.? If you were to? use a 'strange' computer where you had never used your groups.io subscription, you would not receive a response.
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No question makes anyone?seem dumb. I am not computer literate and I talk plain language and not computer talk. Maybe you will understand me. ? How do change name - but before you do that read below If you go to your home page of the group. Click on Admin Settings The first thing you see is the topic General Under Group Title put the name change Then also change the group email address to what you want it to be. Change the description to reflect the new name. Scroll to the bottom and click on update ? When it was said to BE CAREFUL - changing the groups name comes with consequences and you should make sure you want to do it. ? Just remember when you change the name of the group the URL changes Your members will have to be informed of that change Old group content and group-related links will not be updated to the new URL Previously sent emails will not exist It is like starting a NEW GROUP ? RATHER THEN CHANGE THE NAME FORMALLY - just CHANGE HOW THE NAME WILL SHOW UP IN Emails. Example: When mail is sent the subject line for this group reads [GMF] rather then GroupManagersForum ? You can shorten the name that appears in the subject line. This way all?messages will stay?with the group and the URL for posting won't change.? ? Ilene ? ? ? ? ?

Sugar, Bruce replied. With a link. He also says be careful!
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Renaming-a-Group

If depends what you are trying to achieve. Our travel group wanted a name change but decided really what we wanted was a better display name in the public groups directory - although our group is private.

So create a subgroup with the name you want. Add a description that says that this is a subgroup of <your actual group name>. Edit the description in the homepage of the subgroup with a hyperlink to your actual main group, inviting people to click and visit to join.

See?/g/TRAVEL-ZINE

Linda, founder of the Zine figured this out. Smart lady!

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Chris,

I know the following comment can be seen as an exercise in pedantry
but I /don't /like it; if anyone wants to log in then more or less by
definition they must use a password.

Not only pedantry, but IMO flat-out wrong.

There's no difference between having logged in using a password versus using a login link by email. They do exactly the same thing: set a login cookie in your browser.

While the means are different, I wouldn't want language that implies that using a login link leaves you not logged in, or somehow differently logged in. That would just lead to confusion. Or at least to unnecessary concern and questioning.

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Michael,

I get a "Gmail return" for all posts to our io.groups forum, including
my own posts.

What do you mean by a "Gmail return"?

I am having the same issue.

Are you sure?

The warning we've been talking about has a screenshot here:
/g/GroupManagersForum/message/13433

Is that what you mean by a "return"? Or something else?

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Received from Michael Jaross at 12/17/2018 10:14 PM UTC:

I am having the same issue. I get a "Gmail return" for all posts to our io.groups forum, including my own posts.

I haven't changed any settings, either to my own account or as a moderator. I checked to see that this was the case.
I hope Mark will re-attack this issue as it's a problem for anyone with high volumes of email. Thanks.

I'm thinking it's time for Gmail users to complain to GMail also... since it's Gmail that set a default behavior that I bet causes more problems than receiving a copy of mail you send. Ask Gmail to provide an option not to get those notices. They're the ones causing the problem.

Jim H

On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 08:35 PM, Sugar Lopez wrote:

Hi all, my groups name is to long

So how can I change the name?

See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Renaming-a-Group?

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I am having the same issue. I get a "Gmail return" for all posts to our io.groups forum, including my own posts.??

I haven't changed any settings, either to my own account or as a moderator. I checked to see that this was the case.
I hope Mark will re-attack this issue as it's a problem for anyone with high volumes of email. Thanks.

Michael Jaross
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On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 06:39 AM, Shal Farley wrote:

1. Logging in to this group any time without a password.

I like it.

I know the following comment can be seen as an exercise in pedantry but I don't like it; if anyone wants to log in then more or less by definition they must use a password. IMHO the sentence above would be better if it read

1: Using this Group at any time without a password.

Chris

Oops, more to this:

Our Wiki is public at?/g/FuchsFriends/wiki/home
Please all, copy any or all if you wish.
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Sorry Shal,?
I didn't read your entire message previously.? Sure, use/or not.? Two sayings come to mind.
? ? ?Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
And to one from way back in the 50's and 60's that surfaced for me at IBM:
? ? ?Plagarize, let nothing evade your eyes.

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Shal,
If you liked that, possibly you will also like this link to our "To set up your password"? which is actually "To set up or change your password"
Short, and to the point.
Our members seem to not wish to have all of the Ruffles & Flourishes so we give it to 'em straight with no chaser.<g>
/g/FuchsFriends/wiki/Set-up-your-password
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On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 08:33 AM, Gabriele Battaglia wrote:

[C4B-320] SubjectTextGoesHere.....

The "320" number could increase by 1 every new topic posted, or, at least, every message posted.

There is currently no way to include the thread number or message number in the subject line.

You can place your group name (or any other text you like) in the subject line. See Admin>Settings>Message Formatting>Subject Tag.

In Digest modes, a digest number is placed in the subject line, and it increments with each Digest you receive. However, this number is not group-wide; and it restarts at 1 each time to change your subscription preferences to a Digest.

Individual messages have the message number in the footer. It will say "View/Reply Online (#xxxxx)." In html emails, hovering your mouse over the View/Reply link will display the message number in the URL. Hovering over "Mute Topic" will similarly show the topic number. Plain text emails will have these URLs spelled out so you can read it.

I hope something in there helps.

Regards,
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Hello all and thanks for your time reading this.

There were a feature in Googlegroups which I loved a lot and I wonderf if is it possible to have it also on our Groups.io services.

This feature allows you to automatically insert the Thread number within the subject line together the Group name. For instance, the Group I'm administrating is called C4B (Chess for Blind) and I would like to have in the subject, something like:

[C4B-320] SubjectTextGoesHere.....

The "320" number could increase by 1 every new topic posted, or, at least, every message posted.

Do you think is it possible?

I know that information appear within the segnature, footpage, but after a long thread it's hard to visualize. It would be better, at least to me, to have it within the subject line.

Thanks and have a great day all of you guys.

Gabriele, Italy.

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Bob,

Wow Shal, none of my group would have the patience to work with that.
They are mostly anywhere from 50 to the low 90s and want simplicity.

Yeah, well that's why I've often said that it is better to skip on telling people to set a password. But I understand the rebuttal that people are used to working with sites that have passwords and that a password is "simpler" for non-geeks to use than the email link.

A matter of perspective I suppose.

Also, I felt a need to document and explain somewhere what a login is all about, and how it works. Possibly that's TMI for a page that bills itself as a Quick-Start Guide. I could see an argument that such detail
should go back in the Advice section.

1. Logging in to this group any time without a password.

I like it.

If you'll permit me to copy and edit yours and I'll make that an entry in Quick Start. Or if you'd be willing to do it better still.

What do you think of my use of screen shots - do you think they help clarify the instructions or do they make the instructions seem longer and more complicated?

The first thing you should do is to Bookmark that page in your
Internet Browser so you don't have to go through all of the above crap
again

This line leaves me wondering "what page"? Bookmarking the Login page doesn't seem to short-cut anything. Bookmarking your group's home page or anything else wouldn't seem to help if they've let their login expire.

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Wow Shal, none of my group would have the? patience to work with that.
They are mostly anywhere from 50 to the low 90s and want simplicity.
Here's our page on logins without a password.
It's one of several "SHORTIES"

1. Logging in to this group any time without a password.

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I took a substantial whack at the Logging in part of the page, and moved the link to it into the Quick-Start Guide section, since it seems more like introductory material now.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Logging-in-and-How-to-Set-a-Personal-Password

I'd like to shorten the title, but I think I'll wait and see if there's any action toward permalinks before I do.

Shal


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