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Re: Default password?

 

On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 03:57 PM, Chris Jones wrote:
I see that I now have a collection of Group Profiles, not Display Names
They're related, but not the same thing.? Within each Group Profile, not available to anyone but the individual, you have the option to change your Display Name (along with a few other items.)? On the Members list of your group, you'll see Display Name.
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Re: Default password?

 

On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 08:54 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
I've re-written it.
There is something else that struck me when I had a read of the GMF wiki referenced. There is mention of "Group Profile", and "Display Name" and this prompted me to investigate a bit further.

IIRC (and it is if) Display Names used to be called Display Names and not Group Profiles, but I see that I now have a collection of Group Profiles, not Display Names. I cannot recall seeing any announcement about any such change but that doesn't mean that there wasn't one.

Am I correct in thinking that this is a change, and that it is relatively recent? Now for most purposes the precise terminology is of little or no matter, but the group I moderate uses "Display Names" as part of an indentity check for members who wish to request specialist documents that we store elsewhere. The current instructions require members to enter their "Display Names" but if I am right about the change of title then we will have to change the instructions to avoid confusion.

At the same time a look through the list of "Actions" in the Activity Log finds Changed Display Name, not Changed Group Profile. Perhaps it's as well that group members cannot see the Activity Log or the potential for confusion would be even greater...

Can anyone shed any light on this for me?

Chris


Re: Adding Via Groups IO to my sender name

Ellen
 

Isn't the option to use your .. I call it my main addy ... instead of the gmail addy work for you? I ended up doing that. I write all my email under miz.elly@ but my "paid for" addy is ellen@ Once I added that and made it my main address, I had no more issues.
Hoping this isn't clear as mud.
Ellen

-----Original Message-----
From: Shal Farley
Sent: Sunday, December 9, 2018 2:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] Adding Via Groups IO to my sender name

Loopy,

It was all fine until about 4 or 5 days ago and once again this
started being added to my sender name which leads me to believe it
isn't my email account but something to do with groups io.
As Bruce cited, a few weeks ago Gmail made a change, which caused a
warning to be displayed if you receive your own message back from
Groups.io. To avoid that warning Groups.io made a change to how the
"From" field is written when sent back to you (but not to other members
of the group). That's what you're seeing.

I don't like it either. I was happy with my messages showing up in Gmail
as From "me", now they're From someone named "Shal Farley via
Groups.io". Aside from being ugly, this new method confuses my email
client (Thunderbird) because the From no longer matches any account I
actually have. PITA

I hope someone can help because I don't like that being added.
Not in the foreseeable future. There is a technique Groups.io can try
(ARC signing the messages), but it is a lot of work for Mark and not
guaranteed to succeed.

Or Gmail could roll back that change, but that is even less likely, Mark
has talked with an engineer there and he says the trend is towards
tightening the rules, not relaxing them.

Gmail's intent is to ensure that you, as a recipient of a message, can
tell when the message was sent directly from someone's email account
versus when it was sent "via" some third-party service (a list) like
Groups.io.

Other people in the group use gmail without this issue.
For now, you see other member's addresses without that change, and they
see yours without it. And every Gmail user sees their own with it. But
if Gmail tightens this up further Groups.io may be forced to re-write
more user's From addresses.

Shal



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Re: Default password?

 

Michael,

What is this 'default password?
There's no such thing. The section was confused about how logging in without a password works. I've re-written it.

Does it refer to the temporary password (login link) that any
Groups.io user can get at any time
I believe so.

Shal


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Re: Adding Via Groups IO to my sender name

 

Loopy,

It was all fine until about 4 or 5 days ago and once again this
started being added to my sender name which leads me to believe it
isn't my email account but something to do with groups io.
As Bruce cited, a few weeks ago Gmail made a change, which caused a warning to be displayed if you receive your own message back from Groups.io. To avoid that warning Groups.io made a change to how the "From" field is written when sent back to you (but not to other members of the group). That's what you're seeing.

I don't like it either. I was happy with my messages showing up in Gmail as From "me", now they're From someone named "Shal Farley via Groups.io". Aside from being ugly, this new method confuses my email client (Thunderbird) because the From no longer matches any account I actually have. PITA

I hope someone can help because I don't like that being added.
Not in the foreseeable future. There is a technique Groups.io can try (ARC signing the messages), but it is a lot of work for Mark and not guaranteed to succeed.

Or Gmail could roll back that change, but that is even less likely, Mark has talked with an engineer there and he says the trend is towards tightening the rules, not relaxing them.

Gmail's intent is to ensure that you, as a recipient of a message, can tell when the message was sent directly from someone's email account versus when it was sent "via" some third-party service (a list) like Groups.io.

Other people in the group use gmail without this issue.
For now, you see other member's addresses without that change, and they see yours without it. And every Gmail user sees their own with it. But if Gmail tightens this up further Groups.io may be forced to re-write more user's From addresses.

Shal



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Re: Missing incoming messages for two days?

 

It would depend on the group.? I have one with little activity at times, but spurts now and then.? Another usually has 'constant' activity, but has had spells of 3-4 days with none.

Have you looked in the Activity Log to see if there's any information that may show a possible cause?

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Missing incoming messages for two days?

 

We typically have 10 or more messages per day, sometimes 30 or 40.
On Dec 7 we had exactly 7, 4 posted at the group and 3 emailed.
We've had none since except from moderators.
None of the Dec 7 posts showed up in the Digests.

This is very unusual for our group especially since we just went through a Giving Tuesday fundraiser and people usually are very curious about how we made out.

Has anyone else suffered a sudden almost 2 day spell with no input?

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Re: uploading large number of files to a group.io files area

 

On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 10:35 AM, greyolddave wrote:
I wonder if there is a bulk method to upload these without having to do this one file at a time
There is now a wiki page on this:??/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Bulk-File-Upload

Please review and edit as needed.

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Re: photos in emails

 

On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 01:29 PM, Bruce Bowman?
Ken -- I'm talking about a group setting option. If you don't want it, don't use it.

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Bruce
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Bruce

Understood. My point maybe not made clearly was,?if the group rule is to allow attachments but ban embedded pix, then that possibly poses a problem for many members (iOS) who would otherwise like to ¡°obey the rule.¡± ?

If the owner¡¯s position is, ¡°Tough crap, it¡¯s my group so don¡¯t use an iOS device,¡± that's ok but it doesn¡¯t seem to meet the desired end. But if the desire is to ban all, including embedded, then that¡¯s a different end.?

If the desire is to ban some offensive (for whatever reason) embedded pic (a business card, ad, cartoon, whatever) then that¡¯s a ¡®hole ¡®nother issue (and a black hole it is.)

Maybe I inferred something I shouldn¡¯t have - which ?of the above (or other) rule were you looking to accomplish?



Default password?

 

"GroupManagersForum/wiki/How-to-Set-a-Personal-Password-and-Profile%3B-Changing-Email-Address"
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/How-to-Set-a-Personal-Password-and-Profile%3B-Changing-Email-Address
says:

| Setting Your Own Password
| Maybe you are using the default password that Groups.io set for you when you were moved over from Yahoo! Groups or Google Groups.

What is this 'default password?
Does it refer to the temporary password (login link) that any Groups.io user can get at any time - if so this is misleading verbiage - or something else?


Re: uploading large number of files to a group.io files area

 

On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 10:35 AM, greyolddave wrote:
I have a large number of files to be available to my group members.? ?I wonder if there is a bulk method to upload these without having to do this one file at a time
You don't have to upload them one at a time.?In the Upload File dialog, click the Browse button. Select as many files as you want from the resulting File Explorer "Open" window. In Windows, you can do this by clicking and dragging with the mouse, or hold down the CTRL key while clicking on several files.

Ctrl-A will also work to select all the files, but you have to click somewhere in the "Open" box first. I have no idea why.

When you're done making your selections, click the Open button at the bottom. The files selected should now appear as thumbnails in the Upload dialog. Enter a description if you want and click the blue Add button to actually upload them.

Having said that, there is no provision to upload an entire folder. You have to manually create the directory structure within groups.io first, at which point you can then upload a collection of files into each folder.

I hope that made sense.
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uploading large number of files to a group.io files area

 

I have a large number of files to be available to my group members.? ?I wonder if there is a bulk method to upload these without having to do this one file at a time
Thanks all.??


Re: Cannot sign-in to my Groups.io Accounts

 

Jim, are they dups to the same email address? Or do you get the same message to two email addresses?

There is a way to prevent dups to the same email address - stop getting copies of your own sent messages. Go to Account on the right (under your name), click on Preferences, choose: Email Preferences. Untick I always want copies of my own emails.

Email Preferences

My Posts
I always want copies of my own emails

Receive copies of your own emails posted to groups.

Frances


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Re: Cannot sign-in to my Groups.io Accounts

 

On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 12:54 AM, Jim Hill wrote:
I am subscribed to a number of groups.io forums using my personal email accounts (Jim2_w6ivw@..., for example). I'm receiving dups, so need to unsubscribe from the appropriate account.
Jim --?

It's possible to unsubscribe from a group without logging in at all. Just send an empty email addressed to [email protected]?(where GROUPNAME is the actual name of the group). This email must be sent from the email address that you want to unsubscribe.?

Hope this helps,
Bruce?
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Re: Cannot sign-in to my Groups.io Accounts

 

Also your email address is your account ID.
Here is info on changing addresses, etc.
GroupManagersForum/wiki/How-to-Set-a-Personal-Password-and-Profile%3B-Changing-Email-Address

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Re: spoofing

 

On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 08:33 AM, Tommy Meehan wrote:
Just curious about this. An account takeover by impersonation, is that a criminal offense? If you felt you could prove who did it, would you then be entitled to lodge a criminal complaint against them with police?
It is a form of identity theft. Options for legal action vary by jurisdiction.

Further discussion on this is idle speculation.

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Re: spoofing

 

Just curious about this. An account takeover by impersonation, is that a criminal offense? If you felt you could prove who did it, would you then be entitled to lodge a criminal complaint against them with police?

Because of the potential for the impersonator to access personal financial accounts (via the email account), if it's not specifically illegal it should be.

tommy0421


Re: Adding Via Groups IO to my sender name

 

On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 08:30 AM, <a.loopy.letter@...> wrote:
I hope someone can help because I don't like that being added.? Other people in the group use gmail without this issue.?
Not anymore. See??and also?/static/help#dmarc?

Hope this helps,
Bruce?
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Re: attachment size limited

 

On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 06:44 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
This badge reflects each member's subscription setting on email attachments, so that they aren't sent any emails containing huge attachments. This badge was recently added (among others) per discussions in beta (see ).
Folks -- Just a heads-up that I've added these new Advanced Email Preferences badges to an existing GMF wiki page.

See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Status-Badges-in-the-Members-List?and scroll to the bottom.

Bruce
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Adding Via Groups IO to my sender name

 

Hello

A few weeks ago I asked about why "Via Groups IO" was being added to my sender name and shows under from as "Loopy via Groups IO" when I send mail to my group.? Someone said it must have been my email provider that was doing that.? So I closed that email account (ZOHO) and opened a new account under GMAIL.
It was all fine until about 4 or 5 days ago and once again this started being added to my sender name which leads me to believe it isn't my email account but something to do with groups io.? I've had another? gmail account that I have used for years without that problem.

I hope someone can help because I don't like that being added.? Other people in the group use gmail without this issue.? Thank you in advance.

Loopy