On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 04:15 PM, William Finn wrote:

When a new user subscribes to a sub group using the above mentioned email they are added to the main group and not the sub group.

Being added to the main group is expected behavior but one would also expect being joined to the sub group also.

More information is needed. What are your Spam Control settings for the main group and the subgroup? Was the addition done using a previously confirmed email address??

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On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 01:10 PM, JMichaelTX wrote:

I am using Markdown, so that may limit my choices. Any suggestions?

Markdown is not a native browser language, so at some point it's being converted to html for display. You can see the html by using the "view source" (or similar menu selection) in your browser while viewing your wiki after you're done with composition.

In principle, it should then be possible to extract that html, apply some of the the styles to your tags, and save it back via the editor. Having said all that, if you're not fairly proficient with html then none of this bootstrap.css stuff is likely to make sense anyway.

Is this a groups.io bug that should be reported?

I agree with Shal that it wouldn't hurt to report your original problem to support; however, I didn't see anything in to suggest that table cell borders are a supported markdown feature.

My recommendation would be to open the wiki file in the html editor. Switch to html in your preferences, open the editor, then click on the far right icon (looks like three bars) then again on the far right icon (looks like <>). This will display the html source. Look for the tag with the TABLE attribute. Immediately after TABLE, insert border="1" cellpadding="5" width="100%", then save.?

These are deprecated html constructs, but if the groups.io editor doesn't strip them, they should give you what you want.

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On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 03:16 PM, Bill Perry wrote:

I've now run into another problem or undocumented feature.

Yes, there's a limit of 20 per 24 hours for Invites or Direct Adds.? It was implemented as a result of a spammer attack a couple of years ago, .? There was some question about why it applies to Direct Add since those groups are paid for, but I don't think Mark ever supplied an answer.? He usually approves these quickly and there have been reports that it isn't always required on future 'batches'.

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Shal,
Yes, I meant that I used Direct Add using an email list.? I did not use the Easy Group Transfer process.
Maureen

Shal,

Your instruction " I recommend against writing to a CSV. Instead select the (desired rows
of) the column in Excel and copy / paste directly into the Direct Add address box."

This worked fine. Thanks for the suggestion.

I've now run into another problem or undocumented feature. I had about 70 members in total to add. As a trial using the above method I added 2 batches of 10, and then as it was working I added the last 50 as one batch. The system came back and said that I'd reached the maximum number of direct add and this need approval, but I have not found anywhere any indication there is a maximum that I can load and in what period. Or who has to give the approval or how long that might take.

Very surprised at such a low number.

Bill

Hi,

I created a main group. Inside this group I created some sub groups.
Each sub group has a subscription email address.

When a new user subscribes to a sub group using the above mentioned email they are added to the main group and not the sub group.

Being added to the main group is expected behavior but one would also expect being joined to the sub group also.

Do I misunderstand how it should work or did I find a bug?

Liam

Bill,

the extra comma does not appear. They only appear if copied from the
Excel generated csv file,

In Excel you have to make sure the Display Name and the address are in the same column, otherwise an intervening comma in the CSV is inevitable.

I recommend against writing to a CSV. Instead select the (desired rows of) the column in Excel and copy / paste directly into the Direct Add address box.

I use the CONCATENATE() function to build the desired string in an auxiliary column. For example, if Column A has the email addresses, and Column B has the Display Names, I create another column containing the formula:

=CONCATENATE("""",$B3,""" <",$A3,">")

Note that I put " marks around the Display Name - I did that because some of my members have commas in their Display name. Without that complication it would be simply:

=CONCATENATE($B3," <",$A3,">")

Copy that formula into all the rows of the auxiliary column and now you have a copy/paste -able column for Direct Add (or Invite).

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JMichaelTX,

Thanks for your reply. I have read, and re-read, that (this) thread
several times, but I still do NOT understand how to apply the css
file to my entire wiki, or even one page in the wiki.

The CSS file (or a version of it) is already applied to every page on site. The work-around discussed is using those definitions to achieve desired effects when editing HTML entities in Source Code mode (a feature of the HTML composition boxes).

I am using Markdown, so that may limit my choices. Any suggestions?

Probably. I don't imagine Markdown composition offers an equivalent feature - it would almost have to be an edit feature of the preview window.

Is this a groups.io bug that should be reported?

The inability to reference those CSS definitions in Markdown isn't a bug; maybe a limitation but that probably wouldn't be the right way to address limitations of the available formatting in Markdown.

Your original complaint in #12509 about the missing borders and gaps in the rendered Markdown output may be a bug. I think I'd report it to [email protected] as one.

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On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 12:11 PM, Charlie at Duke wrote:

I had expected it to be on the "Actions" list on the pending members page.

You could suggest this on , the official suggestion box for the site.? I'm thinking that it's not on the pending member page because it's of no serious consequence unless they've become a member, but adding it to the Action list does make sense.

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Bill,

but when on the “Admin/Members” screen, this extra comma is also shown
after the Display Name.

If those commas were truly not in the addresses as you entered them then this looks like a bug to me, and a recent one. I Direct Add'd several dozen members a few weeks ago without this happening - using exactly the format you show as example (copy/pasted from Excel).

I'd report that to [email protected] as a bug. Leave an example intact if you can and cited it by group name and member address.

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On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 12:11 PM, Bill Perry wrote:

Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong?

Sure sounds like a bug that should be reported to [email protected].? Mark has done some work on the Direct Add recently, so this may be something that sneaked in.

As an afterthought, have you tried it using only a first name, or at least something without spaces?? That might give Mark more information to dig with.

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Thanks Michael and Bruce.? I should have found this myself, but I have to say that the placement of this function is not intuitive.? I had expected it to be on the "Actions" list on the pending members page.? Still, my oversight.

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On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 06:34 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

You should probably read that entire thread ( /g/GroupManagersForum/topic/4818162#12515 ).

Thanks for your reply. I have read, and re-read, that (this) thread several times, but I still do NOT understand how to apply the css file to my entire wiki, or even one page in the wiki.

I am using Markdown, so that may limit my choices. Any suggestions?

Is this a groups.io bug that should be reported?

Paige,
Hmm, that does seem strange, especially the disappearance of the gio calendar from the online google calendar (I assume you mean on the web) and still show on the phone.? The phone calendar is synced from the online one for the account so if it's gone from one, it should be gone from the other.? AFAIK, android phone users would still use the online web calendar to subscribe, right?? I don't see that ability in the phone app.??
I don't know of anything that would have some events appear and others not.
Toby

Rob,

Community owners are also the ones who will pay when it is time to
upgrade - I encourage them to reconsider this view.

I don't have any Premium groups at the moment to check with, but I know they have at least one more field they can change in a member's subscription: the member's email address.

Your encouragement should be sent through beta (the official "suggestion box") - no one from Groups.io monitors GMF.

Which seems to me to be kind of ridiculous - essentially making two
different profiles in one system in a way that is far more labor
intensive.

It is a bit ridiculous. It's what I did in my old classmate Yahoo Groups because it was the only tool available.

I've since transferred those groups here but have not continued our "lost and found" databases (classmate lists) here, mostly out of laziness, but also because the Groups.io Directory and Members list (both of which I do make available to those members) work well enough. At least for the "found" classmates.

Well I could try I suppose - but a "fully formed" proposal might be
difficult since I am not a software engineer and in fact am not that
great at politics.

I don't know what politics might have to do with it, but perhaps "fully" implied too much. I don't think you need to be a software engineer to give a good description of the features you want and the use case(s) that motivate your suggestion.

Seeing that database right there is frustrating though - I am
surprised someone hasn't at least tried to link that up with the
profile yet.

I don't know what might be possible with the Groups.io API, but there aren't to my knowledge any end-user accessible capabilities in the Database feature to link one database table to another, much less to the group's Members list or Member profiles.

I didn't think so - but I have also noticed that some members here
seem to have accepted this "user calls all the shots" as dogma but
those don't have to be all the rules.

I'm generally of that persuasion, especially where the member's personal information is concerned. But the things we've been discussing would be ok with me so long as they are controlled by group options so that groups that don't want such openness don't have it forced upon them.

That's an idea - but I have one business and on social group right
now, and for business they don't care at all if the directory is
public. In general, they don't want "privacy" they want "promotion".

I'm not saying that the member ought not be able to make their Profile public; but having it be a group default could come as a rude surprise to a naive new member, particularly if their Account Profile is not public.

And/Or suggest that an "All Subscribers Visible" option be added to
the Member Directory control (in the Privacy section of the group's
Settings page).

As long as that was the default, yes.

I disagree. I think making that a default group setting would be a mistake for most new groups. It isn't that hard for groups that want it to select it.

Bully pulpit? More like begging - over and over again until we
practically croak from frustration.

Heh. But at least in your business group they want promotion and will be more motivated to follow-through than would be the case with my classmates.

Shal



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In Admin: Members
Click on the row (not the check box) of the Member with the “NC”
Scroll to bottom of page
Click on “Send Confirmation Email"

See?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/10816

Hope this helps,
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