Thanks Shal.? That was a useful link for me to read other features.

On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 05:52 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

Other than that, I don't know what you might mean by "re-ordering" them.

I think it means change the order in which they are listed if there is not a Home Page with links set up; the group I moderate does not have a Home Page, just a list of the various wiki pages. The list will always appear in alphabetical order, which might result in members "reading them in the wrong order"

However, for alphabetical order read alphanumerical order, so it is perfectly possible to set the pages in the order required by putting a number as the first character, rather than the initial letter of the page title. This is how I set it up in our wiki; not perfect but it serves. :) Now I haven't put it to the test in the wiki section but if it mirrors how things behave within photo albums then things can go a little awry if the numbering runs 1 to 9, followed by 10, a bit like early version of Windows did in directories; the solution to that is for the numbers 1 to 9 to be typed as 01 to 09, followed by 10. The page order will be determined by the number, not the initial letter.

Again I haven't put it to the test but I strongly suspect that it wll go wrong again if the numbering goes above 99, in which case the answer will be to list 1 to 99 as 001 to 099, but that would result in a gigantic wiki, or an equally gigantic photo album. I suspect that would be a purely theoretical problem, not a real one.

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What does "NC" in pink mean when it's next to a member's name in the member's list?

I would agree that the system should remember a user's choice of order for each group's photos, rather them have to change it each time.?

And also that it should be possible for group owners to set - for such things - a group default (that can be overridden by users), based on their group and their understanding of its members, in the settings section.?

Jeremy

On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 12:09 PM, <vijaybhuchar@...> wrote:

If so then how do I do it please?

You can create a "home" wiki page that contains links to the other pages and present them in any order or categorization that you want.?

Other than that, I don't know what you might mean by "re-ordering" them.

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If so then how do I do it please?

Dotty,

Yes, I know that each subscriber can change the sort order when
viewing the photos online. But that selection reverts to the default
alphabetical listing each time the group is visited.

This would be my suggestion: the site ought to remember the visitor's viewing options when he/she leaves the page and comes back.

I would much prefer to be able to choose a default for the group that
will sort them chronologically by the date posted.

I'm actually against putting viewing options like this into settings or preferences pages. I detest them because they're never what I want right now, but changing it means navigating my way to wherever it is set, then finding my way back to what I was doing. That's not so hard, usually, but it is an interruption to my train of thought.

My objection is even stronger when I have to beg a group owner to change it because (as a member) I can't.

Has this been requested on Beta previously?

I found a reference to being able to sort Albums by date, which has been implemented (albeit without memory). In a quick glance I didn't see a reference to making a group (or individual) option to preset the order, or to remember the order.

Shal


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On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 08:28 PM, Dotty Bell wrote:

I don't think the ISO format will do that consistently from year to year with the current default.

Yeah, that's what I thought when I read Jim's post, too. But the fact remains that you could come up with your own folder naming convention that would automatically put the desired album first.

Failing that, you can go ahead and make this suggestion in beta; just be prepared for the idea not getting a lot of traction. The functionality to sort albums in reverse chronological order already exists, and there are a lot of very good pending proposals that haven't been implemented at all.
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I wrote:
Currently, my "work around" for keeping the most recent albums at the beginning of our Photos pages, is to name my albums with a leading zero, such as "0-August 2018". This puts them before any of the "alphabetic" only albums. But this is not ideal. I would much prefer to be able to choose a default for the group that will sort them chronologically by the date posted.

Jim replied:
If you just want to sort chronologically, name them with dates in ISO format; i.e., 2018-08-20 if posted today.

Jim,
Thanks for your suggestion, but I don't think that solves my problem.? That is likely how I will name my albums if given the option to set the Photo default to sort "chronologically" or date posted instead alphabetically.? And I'm aware that system will work for the current year with the alphabetical default as it is now.?? But if I use the ISO format to rename all our albums, it will force the earlier years (2011 through 2017) to appear before the current 2018 year albums.? And at the beginning of next year, my 2019-01 album will follow the 2018-12 album, rather than appear before it.? That is why I want the option to set the group default sort to a first/last "date posted" order.? I want to be able to keep the most recent albums at the beginning of our Photo pages when our members go to the website to view them, without their having to change the sort order each time.? I don't think the ISO format will do that consistently from year to year with the current default.

Dotty

If one digs, one can find this sentence:

Keep in mind that you may not be able to share posts to external sites if your page has country or age restrictions.

But why isnt it a MAIN PRIVACY topic on FB?

Thanks again Bruce.

Wow,thanks so much Bruce. Amazing how terrible FB HELP wiki is. searched for a TON of terms, none lead anything? remotely close to this. Thanks again

On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 04:05 PM, AL Guevara wrote:

Sorry Bruce but that's for "Profile" privacy, not "PAGE" or "GROUP" Privacy

Al -- Perhaps you will find this writeup to be more straightforward. Please read the whole thing.



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I searched for an hour on how to make a page VISIBLE? when not logged in. Cant find anything Shai.

AL,

When asking this prob here, I get folk saying to make my page PUBLIC.
But that's **fallacy**. All FB PAGES are PUBLIC, ...

There's public (all Facebook members), and then there's public (everyone on the internet). Integration requires the latter.

You didn't read enough of the page that Bruce sent you to.

In particular the section "I can't see my Page when I'm logged out of Facebook" probably has your answer: the page cannot have age or country restrictions.

Shal



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When adding my page () to my group integration, I get Error:

That name does not appear to be the name of a Facebook Page.

When asking this prob here, I get folk saying to make my page PUBLIC. But that's fallacy. All FB PAGES are PUBLIC, only FB Groups or FB Profile can enact privacy.

I've been running or help run, FB Groups & Pages since 2010.

From Facebook HELP area.
Pages are public spaces so people can access them whether they have liked the Page or not. However, you can place certain age and geographical restrictions on your Page.

To learn more about Page visibility, check out our Help Center:


If you want to make your Page completely private, I'd suggest you create a group instead. Pages allow real organizations, businesses, celebrities and brands to communicate broadly with people who like them. Groups provide a space for people to communicate about shared interests and allows for more Privacy options.

For more information about the differences between groups and Pages check out this Help Center Article:

If you just want to sort chronologically, name them with dates in ISO format; i.e., 2018-08-20 if posted today.

Jim H



Received from Dotty Bell at 8/20/2018 06:36 PM UTC:

Sorry Bruce but that's for "Profile" privacy, not "PAGE" or "GROUP" Privacy