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Re: Photo question

 

Janice,

There is definitely no photo album with that name (Emailed Photos).
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I will write to support about this situation.
If you haven't already, you may not need to.

Ok, it seems that two of the three types of embedded images do not get stored in Emailed Photos, and likely do not consume your group's storage quota. Those would be:

http: This one makes sense, the image file is stored remotely, not on Groups.io and not in the message content at all. It truly is not an "attached" image.

data: This one would be an oversight (bug) I think. The image file is inline in the message body, so it is consuming Groups.io's storage, but because it is in the message body it is not technically "attached" nor is it stored in Emailed Photos; and it probably isn't deducted from your group's storage quota. Arguably (above a certain size) it should be put in Emailed Photos and counted against your group's storage quota.

If you want to find out which you are dealing with, you can look at the View Source for the message. After selecting that from the More menu, use your browser's find function (usually Ctrl+F) and search for "img" (without the quotes). You should find something that looks like:

... <img src=3D"data: ...

but the word before the colon may be http, cid, or data. There should be one of those img elements for each of the three photos in that message.

I'm placing my bets on http, since (I think) data is still rare; and (I think) cid would have been in Emailed Photos.

Shal


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Re: migrating from mailman?

 

Joseph,

Adam, myself and a couple of others, I Have done transfers from
mailman. We simply did the correct dad, which allows you to put in 20
addresses at a time.
Actually, there is no explicit limit to how many addresses you can submit at one time to Direct Add. However if you submit more than 20 in a 24-hour period your action may be held pending review by Groups.io.

Emphasis on the word "may", I was only held the first time I submitted a couple hundred addresses, and the hold was less than 24 hours. But Groups.io was smaller then, and support less busy, so your mileage may vary.

Shal


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Re: migrating from mailman?

Joseph Hudson
 

Adam, myself and a couple of others, I Have done transfers from mailman. We simply did the correct dad, which allows you to put in 20 addresses at a time. Then triggers the next how many ever other members that don't get added will have to be approved by Mark then they will also simply be direct debit. So you can either choose to upload text file with Direct dance, or simply use the invite functionality. We did not transfer our archives. Everything else has worked wonderfully.

On Aug 13, 2018, at 11:31 PM, adam morris <lists@...> wrote:

Hi all,
I sent a message to support a few days ago.
Wondering if anyone has migrated a list from mailman and if so the best way to do it.
I can get members addresses into a text file if that makes things easier.
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Re: Transfer process: owner has forgotten Yahoo user name and password

 

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In my limited experience, another Yahoo moderator of that group should be able to make you a moderator of that group.

On 8/14/2018 7:02 PM, Paul Fraser via Groups.Io wrote:

Is there a work around for the above, as I believe only the Yahoo list owner can create moderator required for the transfer process.
Paul Fraser

Re: Integration with OneDrive

 

Thanks Bruce for the information on how limited the functionality currently is.? I'll keep an eye out in the beta group.
Re: add co-owner or moderator

 

On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 08:50 PM, Lenny McHugh wrote:
I have been looking through the different areas and do not see where to add a co-owner or moderator. Guidance welcomed!
Open the Members List (Admin>Members) and click anywhere in the row of the person you want to promote. Pull down the Role menu and make the appropriate change. Be sure to update the Permissions and Notifications checkboxes as appropriate, then click the Save button at the bottom of the page.

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Bruce
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Re: add co-owner or moderator

 

How Can I Add Moderators To My Group?

Groups.io supports groups with multiple moderators and owners, along with a full permissions system. To add someone as a moderator, they must first be a member of your group.

Navigate to the group on Groups.io and click on Admin/Members in the left sidebar. From there, click on the member you would like to make a moderator. After opening the record of the person to be made a moderator, click on the selector "Role". It offers three options: Owner, Moderator, and Member. Select moderator. Click "save" at the bottom of the screen after making your selection. Each person can have only one role; the owner has all permissions, the moderator more limited permissions.

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Re: Photo question

 

There is definitely no photo album with that name (Emailed Photos).? This is the only case I know of where someone in my group has sent embedded photos.? Some people have attempted to attach photos and they are automatically stripped from their message.? I advise them to upload the photos to a photo album rather than attempt to attach them.? We are a quilting group and share a lot of photos.

I will write to support?about this situation.

Thanks,
Janice B
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add co-owner or moderator

 

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I have been looking through the different areas and do not see where to add a co-owner or moderator. Guidance welcomed! thank you

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Re: migrating from mailman?

Alan Robbins
 

Sounds interesting, ideas where I could learn info on this technique? Sounds
useful for many applications

Al

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That stripping/reformatting can be done without too much difficulty in a
spreadsheet program for many thousands of addresses. You do need to know how
to use certain text manipulating formulae though.

Jim Fisher


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Re: Transfer process: owner has forgotten Yahoo user name and password

 

On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 07:21 PM, Paul Fraser wrote:
Is there a work around for the above, as I believe only the Yahoo list owner can create moderator required for the transfer process.
Not really. See?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/10653?

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Transfer process: owner has forgotten Yahoo user name and password

Paul Fraser
 

Is there a work around for the above, as I believe only the Yahoo list owner can create moderator required for the transfer process.
Paul Fraser
Re: migrating from mailman?

 

That stripping/reformatting can be done without too much difficulty in a
spreadsheet program for many thousands of addresses. You do need to know how to
use certain text manipulating formulae though.

Jim Fisher

On 14 Aug 2018 at 8:26, Alan Robbins via Groups.Io wrote:

Adam & Shal,

Having recently moved 3 mailman groups to Groups IO via the direct add route,
let me just offer the following as a helpful hint. When one exports an address
list in mailman if someone has a name associate with it gets appended to the
end of the address enclosed in parenthesis. For instance my address with name
looked like this: Alan1057@... (Alan Robbins) Now, Groups IO has a much more
stringent protocol in how it accepts email addresses in the direct add feature.
Please read the syntax prior to submitting. Mass subscribe option in mailman
would accept the above example of my address, Groups IO will not. So, if you are
only going to subscribe email addresses extracted from mailman, you will need to
manually edit that file so only the email address is on the line or if you want
to include the name it needs to be as Mark has indicated on that direct add
page. The first list I submitted from mailman contained about 360 names and only
181 get added. The 181 was the addresses that folks had not associated a name in
mailman with their address. Maybe there is some type email address stripper
program that will only extract from your mailman the email addresses. If your
group is small, manually editing is no big deal, but if it is large, it can be
quite a task. Anyway just thought I'd pass on my experience

Best,
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Re: Photo question

 

On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 10:39 AM, Janice wrote:
I could not locate an emailed photos album.? Probably because I have never allowed emailed photos (attachments) in my group.? I looked in my photo albums and it is not listed there alphabetically.? We have 165 photo albums in total.
The Emailed Photos album, if it exists, will be the first album in the Photos section no matter how you sort them.

The photos appear in her message on the group and also arrived in her message in my in box.
I would be pleased with this behavior, given your settings. It's kinda surprising, though; and seems to suggest a way that photos can be shared without it counting against your group storage allocation.

Interesting...

Bruce?
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Re: Photo question

 

Janice,

I could not locate an emailed photos album. ... I looked in my
photo albums and it is not listed there alphabetically.
It should be listed as the very first album, not alphabetically (or by date) with the rest.

If it truly isn't there despite having some emailed photos in your messages that's probably a bug that should be reported to [email protected]

Shal


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Re: migrating from mailman?

 
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Al,

Alan1057@... (Alan Robbins)
That's an obsolete format for including a comment with an address (rfc5322 section 3.4).

Now, Groups IO has a much more stringent protocol in how it accepts
email addresses in the direct add feature. Please read the syntax
prior to submitting.
"Alan Robbins" <Alan1057@...>

That's the current standard for including a display-name with an address (same RFC & section). The double-quotes are optional if the display-name does not contain certain punctuation marks ( ) < > [ ] : ; @ \ , . or "
The angle brackets are optional if there is no display-name.

So, if you are only going to subscribe email addresses extracted from
mailman, you will need to manually edit that file so only the email
address is on the line or if you want to include the name it needs to
be as Mark has indicated on that direct add page.
I would probably use Excel or the search-and-replace capability of my preferred programmer's text editor (Epsilon) to reformat the file, rather than a completely manual process.

Shal


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Re: migrating from mailman?

 

adam,

Looks like importing a mbox file for archives is strictly a "support"
process :(
True, but strictly speaking so is a Yahoo Group transfer. Most of it is automated but there is still a manual step or two for the transfer agent (support) in there.

Shal


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Re: Photo question

 

Bill wrote:

Yes, I'd be interested to see if (1) they're in the Emailed Photos album
and (2) have been correctly resized.

Reply from Janice:

I could not locate an emailed photos album.? Probably because I have never allowed emailed photos (attachments) in my group.? I looked in my photo albums and it is not listed there alphabetically.? We have 165 photo albums in total.

The photos appear in her message on the group and also arrived in her message in my in box.

Janice B
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Re: Integration with OneDrive

 

On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 10:04 AM, Ronald Vargo wrote:
I see in the member integrations that there is Google Drive, any plans for OneDrive integration?
The official "suggestion box" for groups.io is the beta group. Searching on OneDrive, you'll only get a couple of hits, so it's probably not on Mark's radar. See??

The existing Google drive integration uploads any message attachments that come through the group to your Google drive. And that's all it does. Not particularly useful, IMO.

If you want to share the contents of a Google drive with your group, you have to make it public and post a hyperlink to it somewhere, typically on the home page or (if you want to try to restrict it to group members) a wiki page. I assume something similar could be done with OneDrive. See /g/GroupManagersForum/topic/14789664#6125?for more details.
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Re: migrating from mailman?

 

On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 08:25 AM, Emre Brookes wrote:
This would be a really nice feature to have via user upload of an mbox file.
I have a bunch of mailing lists I was considering transferring...
if I have to wait months (years?) to get my archives loaded, that is my first gripe with groups.io.
To put this in perspective, at this time there is no user function to restore a group's message archive from its *own* backup, let alone a third-party one.

There have been quite a few requests for an Mailbox transfer here in GMF. We've always diverted them towards support for help, and there never seems to be any follow-up. Has anyone actually done it, or is this mbox import thing just an urban legend?

Bruce
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