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Hi Gilly,

I can't see your e-mail anywhere.

Both Outlook and the Gmail web interface should be able to show it to you as part of the From address. If you only see the "Shal Farley" part you may need to "expand" the details or something like that to see the whole address. Or you can use GMF's +owner address, as Chris suggested.

if you need any more I do have about 4 I think that I kept.

One should do it.

The others though aren't originals but copies that my members sent me
to look at.

Those probably don't include the full header, and if not wouldn't be of any use.

but again I don't see anything on my Gmail page.

If you are in the habit of moving group messages to a local folder in Outlook (or deleting them) that would likely explain why they're no longer in your Gmail inbox.

Shal <shals2nd@...>


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Hi, I created a group - all fine. I then went to create subgroups and now I cant access the either group (main or sub). I get the "This site can't be reached" error window on chrome. Any ideas?

Thanks.

In groups that require membership approval, I presume that the welcome message is not sent until after the membership?is approved.
I that correct?
Don

Gilly; Shal is in the US. He is (to the best of my knowledge) the Actual Owner of this Group so you can get him on this address: [email protected].

I have done some more investigating, although until another inappropriate post turns up it may not be of much help. The emails that Groups.io sends out notifying a message for moderation, and that released by moderation do not themselves include anything to identify the sender's location; the headers are all "Groups.io" related.

However, the email attached to the moderation notification does contain the IP address of the sending server in its header, which at least gives a clue to the server's location. For that reason any incoming notifications for moderation should be kept and the attached email header examined. That would obviate any need to try to get help from Mark at Groups.io.

Regards from the North of England. :)

Chris

Haha nothing! Just that if anything kicks off I'm normally sleeping! I highly doubt that it's a malcontent as we are a very close knit group and all seems quiet this morning but I've only had 4 e-mails so we'll see and I will keep anything that lands in the moderation q and come right here to let you guys know. I don't understand how they're going to my group because Annette and I would have binned these and banned said member if they had been in the q. These scammers are so clever it makes me sick. I'm just waiting on Shal for his e mail so I can send what he's asked for, do you know if he's UK or Us Chris?

We have a minor problem with our restricted-membership group.?Although the "Join This Group" button disappears from the main group page, the subscription email addresses are still there. The person responsible for managing group membership finds this annoying.

We want to be able to add members by invitation/direct add only. Is there any way to completely turn off join requests?

Bruce
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On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 10:41 AM, Gilly Gmail wrote:

unfortunately I'm Uk

So am I, and what's unfortunate about it? :)

If at all possible try to keep an "inappropriate message" in the moderation queue (if any more turn up) because that is the place where the originaor's IP address is least likely to have been concealed or replaced by a different one along the route. Messages forwarded to you by other members are likely to have only their IP addresses in the header information, not the originator's.

I hope you manage to get it resolved, because it isn't nice.

Chris

Hi Shal thank you again. I can't see? your e-mail anywhere. The issue is the original doesn't appear to be in my Gmail but I did save it in Outlook and in there I can view the source, except I'm good on pcs but don't have that much know how about e-mail and spoofs etc. I can copy paste the source to you and also attatch the first message that came through, if you need any more I do have about 4 I think that I kept. The others? though aren't originals but copies that my members sent me to look at. I don't know why I don't have them all. I'm about to pull in today's mail and will see if there's anything new today, but again I don't see anything on my Gmail page.
If you can let me have that address I can send you the first one that arrived supposedly from my address.?

Thanks for your help everyone.?

Thanks Chris all great advice and I'll do all that. I have some copies that were sent to me by the member that alerted me in the first place, unfortunately I'm Uk and most of my members are US so they saw it all while I was sleeping. I'll mention that to my co owner too so we have copies if anything else comes in.?

Lew,

Is there an option for notice "template" that will go out like a new
topic from a user?

No, but I think that's a good idea.

I've been doing this from my email interface, which lets me select a prior message and "Edit As New Message" - opens a message composition window with the prior To, Subject, and message body filled in.

In Groups.io the Member Notices tab of your group's Settings page comes close. There you can create multiple notices of type "Note to Member". Those are effectively templates for messages that you can send to specific members.

Where this misses the boat (for your purpose) is that you send them by selecting the member(s) in your group's Members list, then selecting "Send Message" from the Actions menu at the bottom of the page. In other words, the message is sent directly to specific member(s), not posted to the group as a whole.

Something you could propose in beta@ would be to add a drop-list (selector) to the New Topic page. This would be shown only to group moderators and owners. That drop-list could show the existing "Note to Member" notices, and if you select one it could fill in the Subject and message body of the draft New Topic (this is the way the Send Message action in the Members list works).


Shal


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Harvey,

This should be viewed as a suggestion.

beta@ is the official "suggestion box" for Groups.io, and here's the latest word on the subject:

I realize I can't complain since you're providing the service for
free.

For which, thanks,

Bruce, and the rest of us on GMF, are volunteers - we're all just fellow users. There are no Groups.io employees here.

Shal


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Gilly,

I have kept the mail that came through ...

I'd very much like to see the header of that message, off-list. In the Gmail web interface click on the More menu, to the right of the date/time in the preview or the open message. Select "Show original".

From there you can either click Download Original, then attach that file in a message to me, or copy the entire text box below that (the one that starts with "Deliverd-To: ...") and paste that into a message to me.

You may be able to do the same thing in the Outlook interface, but I don't use Outlook so I don't know.

... and on checking with my co owner they were going to the group but
she's removed them already.

Ok, that rules out spoofing of just the display name. So it is either a full-on spoof or they were using your Gmail account. I'll likely be able to tell from the message's header.

... and put myself and 2 members on moderation to see if that stops
them coming to group.

That's a very good idea. I keep myself on moderation in every group I moderate or own, in part for this reason. Back in 2004 or thereabouts Y!Groups suffered from a massive amount of spoofing by spambots and crooks, and I decided that it was most important that none of that stuff be posted to the group in my name.

Is there anything else that I can do or need to do please ...

You've done the most effective things, particularly changing your passwords and putting yourself on moderation.

and does this kind of childish/rude/nasty thing tend to fizzle out
when they get bored?

That depends.

If it is a malcontent member, or former member, acting out of spite then yes. In my experience they'll tire of it once they see that they're not getting any reaction. You may want to put the entire group on moderation temporarily (if that is practical) so as to remove all on-list reference to the spam, and to head-off a switch in spoofed address.

If it is a crook, sending phishing or scamming messages ("open this file", "click this link", "reply now", whatever the pitch) then maybe not. Those people tend to use tireless robots to mail their junk.

Shal


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We have recurring events and would like to have a standardized form that an admin could just plug in the changed data and send to the group. Is there an?option for notice "template" that will go out like a new topic from a user?

On 8/9/2018 4:23 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 03:42 PM, Tom Link wrote:
I was looking at a message in my group that I posted that included a
link. When I clicked on the link it did not open in a new window or
tab, it just replaced the content from groups.io. Is there a setting
that can force links to open in a new window or tab?
The raw HTML for this is target="blank"

In Firefox and Chrome this can be achieved by holding the Control key while clicking on the link. Other browsers may do the same.


Some browsers also have add-on extensions which provide a right-click option "Open link in new tab".

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Bill

In this forum, Select Polls in the drop down list that normally is labeled "Topics"
Open up the poll that Chris Jones did a while back and have a look.
As creator of the poll, the More menu gives you options to Edit, close, delete, etc.? When you "Post" the new poll, subscribers get a message where they can vote/respond to the (1) question in the poll.
Toby

Barbara,

For the first part I still have this message "We are in process of transferring your group. Depending on Yahoo and demand, this may take several days. You will be notified by email when the transfer is completed."

That being the case, have a look in your spam or other folders to see if the transfer agent needed to ask you a question and put your transfer on hold. If you don't find anything, write to [email protected] to ask about the status of the transfer.

But maybe doing it again will quicken the process.

I wouldn't do that until you've checked with the transfer agent, or support.

Shal



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On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 03:42 PM, Tom Link wrote:

I was looking at a message in my group that I posted that included a link. When I clicked on the link it did not open in a new window or tab, it just replaced the content from groups.io. Is there a setting that can force links to open in a new window or tab?

The raw HTML for this is target="blank"

I'm not aware of any group setting to control this. It's been my experience that if I insert a hyperlink in a message using the online message editor, it will automatically add this qualifier. If I insert a link using my email client and post the message to the group that way, it generally won't.

Your mileage may vary, void where prohibited, objects in mirror are closer than they appear.

Hope this helps,
Bruce
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On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 03:43 PM, Mebefebe wrote:

All of a sudden I can not get into MY group.

You are probably not logged in.?Logins expire after 30 days.

See?/static/help#password?

Regards,
Bruce
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Make sure you're using the correct email address.? Signing in is not for a specific group, but to the site.? Try entering your email address and asking for a link to be sent.

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