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Blank Digests

Nina Banks
 

Several times I have received blank digests, and just lost a member because of it,
What's going on?

Nina
Re: graphics files

 

On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Claire Tompkins wrote:
If you have a suitable suggestion, I¡¯d love to hear it. ?Yahoo and Google Groups both seem to be subpar.?
The first thing I'd try is converting some of the TIFs to one of the other formats at low compression. It's amazing how much storage can be saved that way and still have a sharp, legible image.

Some folks set up a public folder on a Google Drive, upload all the big files there, and insert links in their emails instead. It's a little kludgy but if you decide to use Google Groups instead of GIO you're gonna find yourself doing much the same thing.

Another option is to pay $110/year for a Premium group with 10 GB storage.

Or any combination thereof.

Hope this helps,
Bruce
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Re: Members being dropped

MILLARD MUNGER
 

Sad phenom, but necessary I guess.

Max Munger



On Wednesday, July 18, 2018 Patty Sliney via Groups.Io <[email protected]> wrote:

Max, most likely this unsubscribe phenomena you're seeing right after the transfer is due to all your inactive list members finding out they were transferred, are not participating on your group, and have decided it's time to simply unsub.? Many may have been on No Mail, and didn't even realize they were still subscribed to your list.? Happened to me as well.? I transferred two large Yahoo groups (around 5,000 list members each), so we have quite a few unsubscriptions for about 3-4 days after the transfer.? This is the is pretty normal.

Patty Sliney



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Re: Members being dropped

MILLARD MUNGER
 

I will be sending a followup on yahoo remind g old members to take a new look at gio.
Hope they will come back.

Max Munger



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On Wednesday, July 18, 2018 Sarah k Alawami <[email protected]> wrote:

If they are marking the messages as spam ?and removing them from the spam folder they will be unsubed. Or they might just be leaving.?Let them I say, they will either come back, or they won¡¯t. Maybe they were on digest on yahoo and forgot about that. I¡¯ve learned as a mod to just say bye to?the ones who don¡¯t want to ?stay and not cry over it. They ?will be back soon, or not.
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Re: Your Groups.io Account Is Bouncing

 

Jim,
Well, yes and no.?
I'm pretty sure that if your group only has one owner, your account would not be removed as owner.? Perhaps someone can confirm that.
Even if you were unsubscribed from the groups, you could still login to groups.io on the web and resubscribe.? All of us owners that have active groups, have made a 2nd person / account / email as a 2nd owner to provide access to and control of the group if anything should happen to the primary owner person or email.? This situation is a reminder that the 2nd email should hosted by a different mail provider.
Also, an email to [email protected]?would quickly resolve the problem as Mark can fix anything.

Thanks,
Toby

PS
Mark is on vacation:

I will be on vacation starting Wednesday, July 18, returning on Tuesday, July 30. I will be monitoring the site as normal, except for a few times when I'm on planes or otherwise out of cell/Internet coverage. During those times, a friend of mine will be monitoring the site.
Replies to support emails will be delayed during this time. Also, group transfers will be delayed as well.
Re: Member notices

 

Hi Toby!

Yes, I have. But, my question is that with my Yahoo group, I had a welcome message that in addition to the basic text also sent the new member three attachments containing additional information. Based on what I read on this page, it seems that is no longer an option. But, I am trying to verify is that is correct.

Thanks,

Patti

On Wednesday, July 18, 2018, 12:27:22 PM EDT, Toby Kraft <toby@...> wrote:


Have you reviewed this help page? ->?/static/help#membernotices

Welcome
Sent automatically to members who join an unrestricted group, or whose membership in a restricted group has been approved. A Welcome notice is always sent to new members. If the group has not created and activated a custom notice, we activate and send a default.
Re: Your Groups.io Account Is Bouncing

 

Jim,

Does this mean that during this ridiculous problem caused entirely by RoadRunner/Spectrum, that as a Group OWNER I risk being unsubscribed from my Groups and thus lose them? Please say it ain't so!
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?It ain't so!
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Bouncing doesn't lead to unsubscription. Marking a message as spam, or letting one expire in your Spam folder might, depending on your email service. But even then I believe I've read that there's a protection for group owners.
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?Shal?

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Re: Question on Members/Directory

 

Each account / member on groups.io can subscribe to one or more groups.? For each group that the member subscribes to, they have a group profile.? One of the fields in the group profile is the display name to use for that group.??
Subscribers can set their display name on their group subscription page:


When a group is transferred, the subscriber's display name, near as I can tell, is left empty.? When they post a message, if their email address has a name attached, then the display name is updated using that name.? Your post contained this "From: Beth Weld <bethweld77@...>" so if you didn't have a display name set, "Beth Weld" would be put there.? ?See?

As an owner, you also have access to and can change a subscriber's display name for your group from Admin -> Members.

There has been much discussion about controlling, locking, forcing display names in this and the Beta forum.
Thanks
Toby
Re: Members being dropped

 

Max,

I am receiving numerous messages that members are leaving the gio -unsubscribing?
Is there some automatic culling of emails going on?

?As others have mentioned it is not automatic, nor is it unusual.


There was a fairly long period of time (even pre-Neo) when the unsubscribe function in Yahoo Groups was essentially dysfunctional. ?
?The common advice at that time was to switch to no-email and then ignore the group. It is my guess that a fair fraction of the post-transfer unsubscribes are people that would have unsubscribed from your Y!group, if they could have figured out how.?


?Another post-transfer phenomenon you may notice as an immediate quantity of members on bouncing status, not withstanding the fact that none of the members marked as bouncing in the Y!Group ?were copied over. Some of these I believe are addresses which in fact had been bad, but Yahoo's mechanism failed to mark them as bouncing. A few of these may be related to specific email services which reject Groups.io as an unknown sender (where they had accepted messages from Y!Groups).

?Shal?


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Re: Your Groups.io Account Is Bouncing

Jim Higgins
 

Does this mean that during this ridiculous problem caused entirely by RoadRunner/Spectrum, that as a Group OWNER I risk being unsubscribed from my Groups and thus lose them? Please say it ain't so!

Jim H



Received from Groups.io at 7/16/2018 08:47 PM UTC:

Hello,

Recently, emails sent to you have bounced back to us. This can be for many reasons, including:
- We have an incorrect email address for you.
- Your account was or is full.
- Other temporary delivery issues.

We have suspended email delivery to you. This means you will no longer receive messages from the groups you are subscribed to, including:
* [email protected]
* [email protected]
* [email protected]
* [email protected]
* [email protected]
* [email protected]
* [email protected]
* [email protected]
* [email protected]
* [email protected]
* [email protected]
You must take action to restore your account, or we will unsubscribe you from all of the groups you are a member of.

To unbounce your account, go to the following link:
[ LINK SUCCESSFULLY FOLLOWED AND DELETED ]

Thank you,
The Groups.io Team
Re: Feature request GDPR compliance #membership

 

Chris,

Apologies if this has already been raised or indeed it's the incorrect place.
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?GMF is a user-to-user forum, there are no Groups.io employees here. It is a good place to "trial balloon" a suggestion, that is get other user's comments and suggested improvements. However the official "suggestion box" is the beta group:
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I'll concur with (the other) Chris that this sounds like a feature that only your group would use. So I think it would be a bit of a long-shot.
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Shal
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Re: Member notices

 

Have you reviewed this help page? ->?/static/help#membernotices
Welcome
Sent automatically to members who join an unrestricted group, or whose membership in a restricted group has been approved. A Welcome notice is always sent to new members. If the group has not created and activated a custom notice, we activate and send a default.
Thanks,
Toby
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Re: Members being dropped

 

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If they are marking the messages as spam ?and removing them from the spam folder they will be unsubed. Or they might just be leaving.?Let them I say, they will either come back, or they won¡¯t. Maybe they were on digest on yahoo and forgot about that. I¡¯ve learned as a mod to just say bye to?the ones who don¡¯t want to ?stay and not cry over it. They ?will be back soon, or not.

On Jul 18, 2018, at 8:22 AM, MILLARD MUNGER <maxmunger@...> wrote:

I just got my yahoo group transfered to gio.
I am receiving numerous messages that members are leaving the gio -unsubscribing?
Is there some automatic culling of emails going on?
I cannot believe so many would be leaving on the first day.

Max Munger


Re: Members being dropped

 

Max, most likely this unsubscribe phenomena you're seeing right after the transfer is due to all your inactive list members finding out they were transferred, are not participating on your group, and have decided it's time to simply unsub.? Many may have been on No Mail, and didn't even realize they were still subscribed to your list.? Happened to me as well.? I transferred two large Yahoo groups (around 5,000 list members each), so we have quite a few unsubscriptions for about 3-4 days after the transfer.? This is the is pretty normal.

Patty Sliney



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Re: Members being dropped

 

On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 04:45 PM, MILLARD MUNGER wrote:
I am receiving numerous messages that members are leaving the gio -unsubscribing?
Well they may or may not be; have a close look at the Notifications that you receive when anyone leaves.

If there is a mention of being removed for "marking a message as spam" then the members concerned have been automatically "dismembered", most likely by their Mail Service Provider. See this from the GMF wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Removed-for-spam for more information.

It may be that your (ex) members have simply decided to leave; the group I moderate had more than a few of those when we migrated last December. We suspected that they were on "no emails" and the notification they received telling them about the move to Groups.io (not excluded by their "no email" choice) acted as a trigger for their realising that they were no longer interested so they just left of their own accord.

As I mentioned above, have a closer look at the Notifications that you are receiving.

Chris
Re: Members being dropped

 

This is common - lots of people who signed up ages ago and have not ¡°read¡± emails or lists will suddenly notice that they don¡¯t want to be in there after all. This happened with our big Groups on transfer - not one name was familiar to me (we mod all posts, so see all the regulars regularly..) You are better off without.. And they can always ask to rejoin¡­

Don¡¯t sweat this - one of my groups has 7000 members, I would guess maybe 50 post regularly, if at all..

Helen Howes
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Question on Members/Directory

 

I just moved my first group over from Yahoo, and I'm running into a situation that I would like to fix.

When I go to "Members" or "Directory"? many of the display names are either just the first name or the first part of the email address.? I don't see a way for me to change that so I assume that I have to ask each member to somehow make their display name (?) more than just the first name.? This is already very confusing and will become more so as we move more groups.? Where do I tell them to go change it and how?
Thanks
Beth
Re: bounced emails

 

Good morning,
Our group had been experiencing the same thing. We figured out pretty quickly on our end that each of our members (or a designee from each department) would need to contact their city's IT area and make sure that groups.io was listed as a "safe site" for the firewalls to allow messages through.

My group is for law enforcement agencies, though - and each jurisdiction has their own internet usage policy. I'm not sure if your group is similar.
Re: Members being dropped

 

Hi Max!

I had the exact same thing happen. And, it continued for the first week or so, then it stopped. I think people are just using the transition as an opportunity to move on from the list since we had a lot of lurkers.??

But, I am no expert by any means, so cannot comment on your auto culling question.

Patti
Transfer from Yahoo #transfer #yahoo

 

I have followed all of the steps to transfer a group from Yahoo to Io, but have not had the invitation accepted yet. I sent to invitation back around the July 4 Holiday and again yesterday. I understand it can take 2-3 days, but this seems to be taking a bit longer than that. I'd just like to get a status update if possible.

Thank you

Karen
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