kesaiserris,

Is the chat feature ready yet?

I haven't used it, but others in GMF have posted about it.
/g/GroupManagersForum/search?q=chat

If so would you consider putting a more obvious button so that one
could view responses?

GMF is a user-to-user group, no one in GMF works for Groups.io. The official "suggestion box" is the beta group:


But I would suggest waiting a bit to see if anyone here replies with more knowledge of chat in Groups.io. The official Help page has nothing about Chat yet, so a member here has started some notes in our Wiki. I don't think it answers your questions, but it is a start.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Chat-Overview

Shal


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I have recently started a group at Groupsio

David,

They do say you learn something new every day, so you have. :-)

Indeed. And I'm sharing the knowledge:

(click "Show message history" if the result table is initially hidden)

I have been using this for years in Yahoo, and it is extremely useful
for saving the admin from having to forward lots of replies to someone
else.

Remember this is an announcement group, as that may make a difference.

An interesting thing is that I didn't find this behavior in the Y!Groups equivalent of an Announcement Group - one with the Who can post? row in the Access Settings table set to Moderators Only.

But I did find that behavior, and more, in Discussion groups. Refer to the table in the cited message. Very surprising.

In the original Yahoo Groups, the sender's e-mail address was in the
From: header and there was no Reply-To: header.

From some old messages tucked away in my email folders I can confirm that for groups with their Reply To set to Sender. The groups in question allowed member posting.

I didn't find any examples of Reply-To being present (pre-DMARC) in those groups, but I don't think that's meaningful - yours isn't a use case that would be particularly likely in a Freecycle-style group (the only ones I was in that were set Reply To Sender).

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Steve,

Is there a setting to send a message when photos are posted?

No.
/g/GroupManagersForum/message/10254

I don't expect to see that feature until the long-awaited Notification Overhaul.


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Is there a setting to send a message when photos are posted?

Anita,

I have a yahoo email I am using here on my groups. Lately when I write
a letter it comes back into my spam folder.

Someone else reported that behavior in Y!Mail recently.

I quickly move it out of there.

That's good.

Y!Mail is among the services known to send a notice to Groups.io (causing your unsubscription) if you mark a message as Spam. I don't know if they're guilty of the AOL sin of doing so even when you simply fail to remove a message from Spam before it auto-deletes, but just as well to head that off. Also, marking them as not-Spam will likely cause the filter to learn not to divert such messages - after a while.

I am wondering why it is going into spam when it didn't do this
before.

There was a time (years ago) when spammers tended to put your address in both the From: and To: fields of their messages. I guess they thought you would naturally open something that came from yourself. A lot of email services started treating such messages as Spam, notwithstanding the legit case of a message returning from an email list.

As to "why now", who can say? Email services are constantly tweaking their spam filters to try and keep up with the onslaught.

Is it better to use a gmail for iogroups?

I think it is better to use gmail, period. But then I'm a Gmail user so of course I'm biased. You might not like it, to each his/her own.

Is yahoo giving iogroups problems?

I doubt they're doing anything directed at Groups.io specifically.

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Tony King wrote:

Reducing the size (e.g. pixels) of album photos? I use webresizer.com

Still, you have to download, delete, and re-upload the photos to the album in your group. Which is a bit of a pain.

I see no red-flags for their site, but I'm always a bit leery of using free (ad-supported) services. There's an old truism that "if you're not paying for it you're the product, not the customer".

Ages ago I bought a copy of Adobe Photoshop Elements for this purpose and it has served me well. These days tools that come with your operating system can likely do that for you as well.

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I have a yahoo email I am using here on my groups. Lately when I write a letter it comes back into my spam folder. I quickly move it out of there. I am not bouncing.
I am wondering why it is going into spam when it didn't do this before.
Is it better to use a gmail for iogroups? Is yahoo giving iogroups problems?

Thanks

Anita?

Hi all,

This week's change log covers two weeks:



Feel free to reply to this topic if you'd like to comment on the
changes. Or better yet, if you expect a lot of discussion start a new
topic (or rejoin an existing one) about a specific change.

NEW: Bulk topic actions.

Not ready for prime time. For group moderators only

Available for testing by appending -test to the URL in the address bar while looking at the Topics list. As in:
/g/GroupManagersForum/topics-test
(but use your own group name instead)

It adds checkboxes to the left of each topic subject, and four buttons at the top of the list for bulk operations on the selected topics. Delete, Merge, Hashtags (add or remove), and More (Moderate, Lock, and Make Sticky). Each of the latter two menus have Apply and Cancel buttons at the bottom, so make sure you scroll down to that to apply the selected functions.

If you feel like testing the bulk features, please report issues or suggestions here:

CHANGE: For Reply To Sender groups, we don't delete any existing
Reply-to headers.

Color me shocked. This relates to a topic here in GMF where David M made some allegations about Y!Groups' behavior which I disbelieved. Not only are some of them true, but I found some even more surprising than ones he mentioned.
/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/23196172

CHANGE: Some domains will sometimes reply to emails with '550 This IP
has sent too many messages this hour. IB504'. We now treat those as
temporary errors instead of permanent errors, and retry again in an
hour.

Pet peeve: email services who violate the standards for error codes.

5xx is supposed to be for /permanent/ errors - defined as situations where the message should not be re-sent until human intervention has corrected the problem. For "re-try later" situations they are supposed to use a 4xy code.

This became a big problem for Y!Groups many years ago when email services started issuing 5xy codes for senders found on dynamic black lists. What part of the word "dynamic" did they not understand?

Yeah, I know, these rejections are just polite ways of saying "We think you're a spammer, go away" and that's why they issue a no-retry code. Still, I think they're abusing the reply coding scheme.


Comments about these others are also welcome:

INTERNAL: Verifying DKIM sigs of inbound emails, currently in testing

only.

BUGFIX: In some instances, when upgrading a group to premium with the
annual plan, the monthly plan was selected instead.
SYSADMIN: Fix time sync in the Groups.io machine cluster. Very
embarassing.
BUGFIX: Use the user's timezone when generating the 'On such and such'
line for message replies.
NEW: Scanning emails, files and photos for viruses/phishing. Currently
in testing.
NEW: Ability for members to repost messages, with configurable
parameters, for premium groups.
NEW: Google map view for database tables with address columns, for
premium groups.
NEW: JSON export format for database tables, and the ability to create
new tables from these exports.

Please call out any you find significant.

Shal


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Shal thanks. I just changed it to 5 MB. ? Anita

No, but there has been discussion on the beta group about making this a group option.? I'd never turn it on, but some would.

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Is there a way when someone or the owner puts a picture in a photo album that it would be announced to the group?

Thanks

Anita

On 7/14/2018 13:45, Shal Farley wrote:

Duane, Glenn,

I agree that there should be a default, but I don't agree that it
should be PST.? It should be UTC, ...

Actually I think it should default to one's Account timezone. If I had the gumption I'd go check to see if it isn't.

And maybe with a nearby link to your Account timezone, so you can change that if that's what you really intend.

Shal

I agree that would be best, good thought outside of the notion of "a" default.

Best,

Glenn

Anita,

I set mine back so there will be a link and that is not bad. I don't
want bouncing so I will tell my members about this.

The largest choice, 5 MB, is small enough to be acceptable to almost any modern email service. Yet large enough to pass most attachments.

I'd only go lower than that if I were using a mobile or metered connection where I'd really rather keep the message size to a minimum.

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Duane, Glenn,

I agree that there should be a default, but I don't agree that it
should be PST. It should be UTC, ...

Actually I think it should default to one's Account timezone. If I had the gumption I'd go check to see if it isn't.

And maybe with a nearby link to your Account timezone, so you can change that if that's what you really intend.

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Patti,

Now I feel really bad, since many of the people in the group I just
transferred were newbies and I messed them up.

Don't fret about it - if they aren't using the group's web pages their Timezone setting doesn't really affect anything.

I know, this is a good reason to have an online account, but I know
you also know that many folks do not want to be bothered with another
password to remember.

No password required! On the Log In page choose "Email me a link to log in". Receive the message, click the link in it, and you're logged in.

Even though I do have a password for my Account, I find the emailed link a lot more convenient on my smartphone than trying to enter my (strong) password on a touchscreen.

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Michael,

But the default should be that subscribers/members are in each group’s
Timezone,

That is the default.

Provided that you set it up in the Default Sub Settings tab of your group's Settings page /before/ those people joined your group - and if yours is the first group they joined.

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Bruce good point. I set mine back so there will be a link and that is not bad. I don't want bouncing so I will tell my members about this. ? Thanks ? Anita

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Duane thanks. I can't do that since my members like to send stationary with incredimail. It has to be set to no limit for the default settings or the stationary comes in broken. ? Thanks Anita