Our group transfer from Yahoo is now successfully complete. We used the PGO4 and PGO-2-GIO sequence. The transfer our objectives:

• Transfer of attachments with every message (This was the showstopper that prevented us from using EasyTransfer. There were hundreds of attachments.)
• Message numbers retained so that message cross-references remain correct. (Placeholders were inserted for messages that had been deleted.)
• Messages referencing files in the Files section have been updated to reflect the new file locations. (There were only eleven files--I did this manually.)

But in the process a couple of questions arose.

1. There were a eleven messages that came from Yahoo, each announcing that a file had been loaded to the Yahoo File store. In Yahoo the Subject was "New file uploaded to NC_LTRGs." These came posted to Groups.io as "No Subject." That is probably a question for PGO-2-GIO, but here is the question for this group: When I edit one of those messages, there is a button at the top labelled "Edit Topic." Under the "More" hamburger menu at the bottom, there is an option labelled "Edit Topic." What is the difference between these two buttons? Why are there two?
2. When the topic was edited and the message was re-displayed, the preview was missing the first part of the first line. I was going to report it as a problem, but when I redisplayed the message list, it was magically fixed. Maybe the page isn't automatically refreshed when it should be... Not a serious concern.
3. When I was editing the messages which referred to files, adding links to the locations on Groups.io, the dialog requests URL, Text to Display, and Title. I understand the purpose of the first two, the classic link and link-text. But what is Title and how is it utilized?

I am pleased with Groups.io so far. It is intuitive and easy to use. I am about to pay for a month and upload the user list.

Larry

Sorry but I think that could possibly confuse others.
Reply to this email is not ambiguous.
There is a Reply to button or link on the message in a visible place
on the email in question which is displayed or they could not read it.

It require almost no thought.??
One isn't asked to compose a message or anything like that.
Simply Reply to this message.

Seems like a true no brainer.

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On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 06:04 PM, Linda Perry wrote:

this hashtag is already set up to be used by moderators only however a number of members have been using it.

I just created a mod only hashtag on one of my groups and tried using it from my member account via email and online - can't be done.? If a non-mod is using it on your group, it has to be on a reply.

Duane
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Thanks I went into the settings and this hashtag is already set up to be used by moderators only however a number of members have been using it. Any thoughts??

Once again, thank you everyone.? I have gotten a lot of valuable information from everyone.
Thank you Christos for that very detailed explanation.? I will try it out.

First, the answer to my troubles, at least for the email address I managed to subscribe today, was to clear out the cookies.? I chose Google Chrome as my "testing" browser and use MS Edge as my "live" browser.
I don't use Google Chrome for anything else, so I don't have to worry about deleting cookies and other info for other websites.
It worked very simply, never shipped me to the groups.io website, which is what I am looking for.? This is for users who strictly want to deal with the email address.

I will review all of your comments again to see whatever other nuggets I can find.

Thank you
Darlene

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There is a Mods - choice tick box as you set up hashtags, it’s at the bottom

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 06:04 PM, Linda Perry wrote:

Is there a way to make a hashtag only useable by the moderator/owner?. I don’t want members to be able to use a specific hashtag.?

Sure. When editing the hashtag, tick the "Use by Mods Only" checkbox.

Please note, however, this will not keep people from replying to the already-existing topic (hashtags are applied to topics, not messages). If you don't want people to reply, tick the "Replies by Mods Only" checkbox also. See screenshot below.

Bruce

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 06:10 PM, Frances wrote:

Can anyone confirm that this does what I think it does? I don't like the layout of the page. It looks like this option is related to Reply To. But I don't think it is.

Okay, I tested it myself. If you set it to Use by Mods Only, a non-mod gets this message if they use it:

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On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 06:04 PM, Linda Perry wrote:

Is there a way to make a hashtag only useable by the moderator/owner?. I don’t want members ?to be able to use a specific hashtag.?

Yes, I believe you can set a specific hashtag for use only by moderator or owner.
Go to Hashtags in the lefthand menu.
Open the list of hashtags. Click on Edit.
There is an option at the bottom of the page -?Use by Mods Only ?
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Is there a way to make a hashtag only useable by the moderator/owner?. I don’t want members ?to be able to use a specific hashtag.?

Cheers Duane

All sorted now, thank you

The footer link helped to understand it better

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Thanks Rick

I haven't seen your last type but the other is the usual one

As I say not hugely important but just wondered what triggered it

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Thanks Bruce

That solves that

And the other was plain text v HTML

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 02:16 PM, Samuel Murray wrote:

When someone tries to subscribe via e-mail, they get a message from GIO
saying the following:

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Thank you for your interest in Groups.io and the group
[email protected]. To complete your subscription,
please reply to this email.
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If "[email protected]" is a hyperlink (or if one's e-mail program
turns it into a hyperlink), then that address is the only thing in the
entire message that is clickable (except the footer).

I think you are right. the problem is that "email" sometimes means email-address, and sometimes means message.
We should change the wording to "To complete your subscription, please *reply* to this *message* "


groetjes/?is, Ronaldo

On 15/01/2020 19:02, Michael Pavan wrote:

I don't understand why Groups.io mis-refers to groups by their by the
group's posting email address rather than the group's URL. I believe
in past discussion it has been stated that 'that's just how it is'.

It's also how it used to be with Yahoogroups and how it still is with Google Groups for all of the groups that I'm a member of. It's just simpler to refer to a group by it's mail address than by its web address.

GROUPNAME.groups.io works and is more intuitive and memorable.

That only works for non-subgroups.
The URL unfortunately does not work.

If GROUPNAME.groups.io or /g/GROUPNAME was
stated, then clicking on it would take one to the group's Home page.

I agree.

Samuel

R. Hari,

Darlene,

If it helps any, this is how I perform the same testing scenario as what you're trying to do:

1. I use my default web browser (Firefox) and which I have already logged into GIO with my admin email account, and since it remembers it, I don't have to log-in again, so anytime I click some GIO link in some email, it goes to this browser. (this is important to remember as you'll see later on)
2. I do whatever admin work needs to be done to whatever group.
3. Then I want to test how the subscription process works (or any other GIO functionality for that matter, where I want to see how things look/work from a regular/different user's POV), I create a test email account somewhere, and from that email, I send the subscribe request.
4. I then open a different browser, Chrome in my case, the test browser, which I will use to test the links the subscriber will get, as you can have a different email address logged into GIO from different browsers and can use them simultaneously without interfering with each other, at least with Firefox and Chrome, I have not tested it with Edge, but it seems per your experience Edge should work the same.
5. This is an important step, while I try to remember to always log off GIO from the test browser when I'm done testing, in order to ensure that I didn't forget logging off from a previous testing session, I first go to on the test browser, and if I get the login screen then great, if not, I log off; otherwise my testing wouldn't work!
6. I then proceed to look at the GIO-generated emails on the test account and check/do whatever I'm testing at the time.
7. Here's the trick though, I do not click on any URL link on any GIO subscription (or otherwise) test email message I get on the testing email address, because this will open that link in my default browser, not on my test browser, hence I would see (in my default browser) that same link I clicked on from my admin's account perspective, not from the test user's perspective on the test browser. So I instead copy the link text from the email, paste it into Notepad first (which will paste the link as plain text, strip any underlying URL code, re-copy it from there, then go to the test browser and paste it there.? I will now see on the test browser the same screen the test user would see if they clicked on that link on their computer. (I suspect this part is what you're not doing quite right)
8. I can then proceed and do whatever from-the-subscriber's-perspective testing I want to do, on the test browser exclusively.? If I need to go and change something on the group and retest, I do that from the default browser where I'm logged in as admin, but everything else related to what the user/subscriber will see/get, is done in the test browser.
9. When finished testing, I log off from the test browser, and close it, and I'm done.

Never had a problem this way.

Cheers,
Christos

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 01:23 PM, David Grimm wrote:

But I still don't understand why a group NEEDS to have the ability to NOT let me choose the format for a digest I'm going to read. I LIKE not having live links in my digests, and if a subscriber has trouble with getting his/her preferred format of digest, the group owner should be able to steer them in the right direction.

David -- The setting here affects individual emails more than digests.

There are two checkboxes...one for "Force HTML emails" and another for "Plain Text only." If you don't select one or the other, then an incoming plain-text message will be forwarded with a plain-text footer appended, and an incoming html email will be forwarded with an html footer. Such behavior tends to cause confusion, so it's entirely sensible to select one or the other.*

Groups are not a democracy, and the group Owner has the final say on matters of this nature.?

Regards,
Bruce

*These two boxes are mutually incompatible and I don't know what happens if you happen to check both of them.

R. Hari,