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I am trying to replace a restricted mailing list from a with a list at groups.io. The mentioned list has 3000+ members. The current owner of that list (neither a googlegroup nor a yahoogroup!) will not make avaiable the user email addresses. My plan is to invite all current members of the old list to the new list at groups.io by email, and by email only. But I really want to skip

- to individually approve of every new member
- to individually unmoderate every new member

Is there a way to make this happen on groups.io?

Cheers,
Dirk
Hamburg, Germany


Re: Quoted post position

 

On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 01:41 PM, Art Kocsis wrote:
not even partially quoting the original post frequently renders the response worthless for all but the OP
Only if you don't take the time to go online to read the topic.

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Re: Quoted post position

 

On 12-13-2019 11:02:36, Bruce Bowman (bruce.bowman@...) wrote:
The default behavior of the online message editor is no quoting at all,
leaving it up to the individual. Personally, I like this approach...
Unfortunately, especially on this list, not even partially quoting the original post frequently renders the response worthless for all but the OP.

Namaste', Art


Re: Duplicate Message Posts

 

No, I have not participated in any of the duplicated messages; I never replied in any form to any of them.

I have duplicate memberships in other groups.io Groups I own but under different email addresses for safety but all except my primary address membership are set to No Email. I have only one membership in GMF.

The footers in the duplicate GMS messages are identical, as are the headers. Not all GMF messages are duplicated. I've expanded the headers and looked to see if there are any differences; there are not. Not every GMF message is duplicated.

I don't get duplicates from any other Group than GMF or any individual email.

I have seen other comments on GMF about duplicate messages but I don't remember the circumstances.

It is only an annoyance; Delete works...

Larry

On 12/16/2019 10:53 AM, Shadow Grafix wrote:
I suspect when you respond to a message that you hit reply all instead of reply. Reply all will cause you to receive two emails because it will have two email addresses to send to.
Judy
----- Original Message -----
From: Larry McDavid <lmcdavid@...>
Reply-To: <[email protected]>
To: GMF Groups.io Group Managers Forum <[email protected]>
Sent: 12/16/2019 1:25:04 PM
Subject: [GMF] Duplicate Message Posts
________________________________________________________________________________
I often receive two identical copies of GMF messages, such as the recent
one about Facebook. I have only one membership in GMF and only one
groups.io registration with a password. Not every message is duplicated
but many are. The full headers of each duplicated message are identical,
as is the message content.
Any idea why?
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Larry McDavid W6FUB
Anaheim, California (SE of Los Angeles, near Disneyland)


Re: Failed transfers.....

 

One of the drop downs allows for membership retrieval.? BUT, you must be either an owner or moderator in a group that masks the emails to get the membership email listing into PGO ...? OR, the YG allows the emails to be displayed for the group. (this isn't the normal default setting).

Some folks who had joined used their email as their user name.? Thus, it's a no brainer to figure out.

BMaverick


Re: Duplicate Message Posts

Shadow Grafix
 

I suspect when you respond to a message that you hit reply all instead of reply. Reply all will cause you to receive two emails because it will have two email addresses to send to.
Judy

----- Original Message -----
From: Larry McDavid <lmcdavid@...>
Reply-To: <[email protected]>
To: GMF Groups.io Group Managers Forum <[email protected]>
Sent: 12/16/2019 1:25:04 PM
Subject: [GMF] Duplicate Message Posts
________________________________________________________________________________

I often receive two identical copies of GMF messages, such as the recent
one about Facebook. I have only one membership in GMF and only one
groups.io registration with a password. Not every message is duplicated
but many are. The full headers of each duplicated message are identical,
as is the message content.

Any idea why?

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Larry McDavid W6FUB
Anaheim, California (SE of Los Angeles, near Disneyland)


Re: Duplicate Message Posts

 

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Are you using more than one of your own email addresses on your group? If so, you should set the non-primary addresses to ¡°no email.¡±

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I signed up three of my email addresses to a group that I just moved from Yahoogroups so that I could send from any of them. I was also getting duplicate messages, until I chose ¡°no email¡± for the ones that are not my primary address.

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Hope this helps,

Best,

Terry Tegnazian


Re: Duplicate Message Posts

 

Larry,

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I often receive two identical copies of GMF messages, such as the recent
one about Facebook. I have only one membership in GMF
If you had two you could tell that from the footer: there would be two different email addresses next to the Unsubscribe link.
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and only one registration with a password.
That doesn't matter. One can still be a group member without setting a password in one's account.
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The full headers of each duplicated message are identical,
Weird.
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My next diagnosis would have been to tell you to examine the raw (View Source / Show Original) headers for a duplicate pair and see where the trail of Received fields diverged. Because if your service received the message twice there would almost certainly be some difference in that topmost Received field reflecting the two separate receptions.
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If those are all the same I can only conclude that your email interface somehow duplicated the messages.
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Anaheim, California? (SE of Los Angeles, near Disneyland)
Howdy former neighbor. I once lived near the corner of Redhill & Irvine, Tustin. Used to be able to watch the fireworks from our roof.
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Question about #cal-notice

 

Hi -- I'm the moderator of a group that has a calendar of birthday events.? The events have no reminders set, but I checked the checkbox called "Send Notice To Group When Event Happens (tagged with #cal-notice)."

My question is: The reminder messages are sent each day at 1:00pm, Eastern Standard Time. That's my own time zone, but some of our group members are in Australia, and the day is already over for them by the time the reminders are sent.

I would like to change these messages to be sent earlier in the day -- maybe at 2am Eastern Standard Time, instead of 1pm.

I've looked through the configuration screens, but I don't see a way to change this.

Can it be done?

Relatedly: If I need to turn off these notices and set up a reminder for each event, is there a way to bulk-edit all of the events at once? There are about 120 of them, which is a lot to do individually, though not impossible.

Thanks,
Valerie

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Duplicate Message Posts

 

I often receive two identical copies of GMF messages, such as the recent one about Facebook. I have only one membership in GMF and only one groups.io registration with a password. Not every message is duplicated but many are. The full headers of each duplicated message are identical, as is the message content.

Any idea why?

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Best wishes,

Larry McDavid W6FUB
Anaheim, California (SE of Los Angeles, near Disneyland)


Re: Quoted post position

 

I use a signature on some of my IO groups.

If I comment above a quote, my signature nevertheless goes at the bottom of the message, under the quote.?

In the future, I'll do a radical snip of the message and put that first, so my signature appears under my own words.

If you don't use an automatic signature, I guess this is a toilet paper thing.

Sandy

At 12:28 PM 12/16/2019, you wrote:

Thanks for your suggestions, Bruce. And, yes, my group has discussed whether the quote should be at the top or bottom. Kinda like how toilet paper should be put on the roller.


Re: Quoted post position

 

Thanks for your suggestions, Bruce. And, yes, my group has discussed whether the quote should be at the top or bottom. Kinda like how toilet paper should be put on the roller.


Re: Failed transfers.....

 

Alan,

I still haven't learned how to get the group members with their
emails. Anyone know how to do that, or if it can be done?
In PGO, in the Group menu, select "Get Members for Current Group" or "Get Members for All Groups". After they download you can export them. Only works if you moderate or own the group.

Shal


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Re: Face Book

 

On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 10:26 AM, Sandi D. wrote:
Opened up GIO group and all joined.?
Great points and strategy, Sandi.

One other thing that the person can do - if they wish a free group on Groups.io, they can get just 1 month of premium so the owner can direct add the members.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Direct-Add-Members
(Note - everyone has access to the wiki and these messages without a Groups.io account.)

Frances

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Re: Failed transfers.....

 

As of this morning, Yahoo is still letting PGO download messages from my groups.? Slowly, and with restarts needed, but it is happening.

I still haven't learned how to get the group members with their emails.? Anyone know how to do that, or if it can be done?

Thanks.


Re: Is it possible to email an old thread by it's message number?

 

Re: the hard-and-fast, 30-day rule - if the new msg doesn¡¯t link in, but is subsequently merged in - will subsequent msgs then also thread into the original Topic??


Re: Face Book

Sandi D.
 

A little over a year ago, I brought over the GIO a family FB private group that was 5 yrs old.

Here's what I did:
Announced closure and all stopped posting
Opened up GIO group and all joined.?
Gave everyone 45 days to download a copy (FB will send it to you upon request) of everything they wanted.?

Removed everything from the FB Group (Including members), waited about a month or so and then deleted the group.
Kept FB account open so I didn't loose account control (FB owns content and search results can populate "deleted" FB sites and accounts for years).?

I can't recall what file type the FB posts were exported to me. I want to think it was HTML or PDF which I have retained as an archived file for our GIO group.?

You mentioned it was a health related FB group. If your friend has a public FB group or is using the account to host postings from others, one question she needs to answer is whether or not she is concerned about the information "left on FB" after suspending or deleting it. She might want to embed a link to the new GIO group so people can find her.

Since health care posts can be very personal at times, if it were my group, I wouldn't want to take responsibility for bringing FB posts over to GIO. I would announce closure and give each poster time to request their own FB download archive. I would start fresh on GIO. People tend post a question they want answered. They don't search through years of archived posts to locate answers. Perhaps bring the relavent FB files and photos to GIO.?

FB servers refresh content periodically. A deceased friend has about 10 FB "impersonated" accounts, all looking the same and reporting them to FB hasn't led to their removal. I deleted a FB business page and it's still viewable now 2 years later. I can still find a FB page that was "deleted" 7 yrs ago by another person to point to the same business. It contains erroneous contact information which confuses people who search for the business now. FB servers have retained the content somehow. It's frustrating and I and others have contacted FB, no solution.

FB pages aren't the same as FB groups but the point I am making is that FB servers may or may not retain data you "left behind" when deleting a group, page or account. FB retains full control over posted content. When you delete a FB account the only thing you are really doing is to remove your access to managing the content. If you don't want old content "out there", it can't hurt to actually delete all of your posted content and keep the account open for a period of time so that the FB servers can refresh a couple of time and theoretically replace the prior posted data with zilch.?

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Re: Confirmation email

 

On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 09:07 AM, Janice Smart wrote:
When I approve a post I receive a confirmation email. How can I turn off that feature.
If you don't want to receive the approved email, change your subscription to full featured digest or something else.
Likely, you will still want to get the email saying that there is a message to approve, etc.
Go to your subscription.

You realize though that the "confirmation email" is the actual post after your have approved it. The one your other members see. And I have my email set up so they go in different folders.

Frances
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Re: Plain text only setting still includes HTML message part #settings #listmanagement

Gerald Boutin
 

On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 12:44 AM, Christopher W. wrote:
Yup: the settings are saved. I took the screenshot from a fresh load of the
page. Additionally, I set this option a few weeks ago, when I was initially
setting up the group.
Understood.

In case you haven't already tried this, uncheck the setting and then do an Update Group and then set it again and Update Group. You might even want to do a browser page refresh between doing the settings.
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Confirmation email

Janice Smart
 

Hello all

When I approve a post I receive a confirmation email. How can I turn off that feature.

Thanks!
Jan


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