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On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 01:23 PM, Duane wrote:

For those that don't want to go look, he said about 3300 groups used the Easy Transfer.? I missed it by over 50%.

Assuming this tally includes groups that are now subgroups (which are not listed in the groups.io directory), even this is hard to gauge.?In any event, it's a lot. There could be another influx in two days and it's unlikely, but possible, that we've only seen the tip of the iceberg.

Bruce

Well, Mark replied on the beta group, ? For those that don't want to go look, he said about 3300 groups used the Easy Transfer.? I missed it by over 50%.

Duane
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On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 04:34 PM, Janie wrote:

As far as a moderator opening and closing the group for the break, I'll look for "Modify Group Settings" permission for that moderator to be able to open and close. I appreciate that tip.?

It seems reasonable to conclude that you and your moderators are still very much feeling your way around Groups.io. On that basis can I suggest that you have a look at the various permissions that you have set up and check that you have not given any moderator the Set Moderator Privileges Permission. It may sound innocent enough but with that permission a moderator can promote themselves to "Owner" and revert you to being an ordinary member or even ban you.

I am not saying that any of your moderators might be minded to take any such action but with everyone still unfamiliar with Groups.io's workings it's the sort of thing that could happen almost by accident with the perpetrator not realising they had done it and thus not being able to put things right again.

Were it to happen, getting normality restored would be tricky, and it's "better to be safe than sorry"...

Chris

Hi Lena,

When I am done with the Perl script, will the original time stamp and posting number and order be preserved?

Thanks,

Andy

As far as my moderator who approves members not getting the owner emails to see answered questions....SUCCESS! Something changed as of yesterday. She is now suddenly getting the owner emails to see who answered the questions. ?Maybe there was a bug that is now fixed.?

So when it's time for the two-day moderator break coming up this weekend, and the need to turn off member posts,?we'll do the Announcement Only setting, but pay attention to the bottom of the page and Updating the page. I appreciate?

As far as a moderator opening and closing the group for the break, I'll look for "Modify Group Settings" permission for that moderator to be able to open and close. I appreciate that tip.?

?

On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 02:30 PM, JD Erskine wrote:

I favour use of REPLY LIST in a (good) MTA (from 1996 to now)

What's an MTA?

and REPLY (to Sender/Originator.) The non-munged approach.
Just what is expected to happen when one sets it to REPLY GROUP AND SENDER?

What I see on most io-groups is that when I click the "reply"- button, I see a box to compose a message in, and below it I see a green button on the left saying "Reply to Group" and a grey one to the right saying "Private".

I know that when the list-owner wants to, (s) he can disable either or both. I'm just not in any groups where that makes sense

groetjes, Ronaldo

Gary,
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I would agree with much of the written info in the article.? There are indeed other possible paths Y! could have taken, like farming out the resources to India or elsewhere to keep the YG platform going for years on end.? But at the end of the day Verizon has the final say.? This isn't the first nor second time Verizon acquired a tech company and closed down the messaging or group forums.? It's a Verizon business model to close discussion groups to the point of smart phone apps being the norm between individuals becomes the main stay.? It sells more phones and interaction for phone plans and data limit charges.? The more folks move away from the computer based internet to smarty phones, the more revenue (aka nickle, dime and dollar the consumer to death).? Desktops, laptops and smart tablets are a threat to the Verizon business model.? To close down these discussion groups is a way to have more phones in the loop instead.
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Verizon also killed AOL messenger last year as well.? It's better to sell devices and retain very little for server storage.? Also, the less data storage a company has, the less legal issues to deal with.?
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GIO is a fresh air event for most of us YG folks.?? From the Prodigy (Sears+AOL) to GeoCities to YG to GIO, our legacy discussions have moved forward with present input as well.
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BMaverick

On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 09:58 AM, Talmadge C 'TC' Carr wrote:

How does one obtain this wonderful stuff:)

Wondering that myself. I looked all over the Personal Groupware web site and could find no download link.

Until that changes it's still just a rumor.

Bruce

On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 10:42 PM, <andyt650@...> wrote:

how your Perl script handles the "ownership" of each post. When your script is
finished uploading, will the "By XXXXX" in each post? list? the original?
email address of the Yahoo member who posted the message?

Yes if that member is currently subscribed to the .io group (present in memberlist.csv) and neither moderated nor bouncing.

Or will it be ME in
the "By"? (I'm running the script)?

You subscribe a separate mailbox for this purpose (for messages from members not currently subscribed).

when your Perl program parses and makes substitutions from?
memberlist.csv, needchange.txt, and map.txt , these will not affect "BY XXXX"
in each post? correct? These changes will only affect the FROM: in the meat
of the post which is on the first line of the post?

If a member is in map.txt then the new address will be in "By".

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How does one obtain this wonderful stuff:)
TCC:}

On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 10:30 PM, Andrea wrote:

Most times your new implementation works, we worked with it in the
meantime. But for a reason we do not understand this does not always
work, but only in about 50% of the messages.

What exactly doesn't work? I fixed a bug (a deleted message caused all next messages in a mbox file to be skipped).

And then - we have a problem with "bounced" Subjects, even if they are
"no mail"-subjects. In this cases following happens:
Programm log says: "after sending message xxx: 500 ... is bouncing..."
and then the whole programm stops.

Download the memberlist.csv file again from Members - Download.

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On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 08:29 AM, JD Erskine wrote:

An aberration? A little burp as we super load the system?

Email addresses at some domains are intentionally munged in order to get the recipient system to deliver them. See?/static/help#dmarc

Bruce

On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 07:30 AM, JD Erskine wrote:

Just what is expected to happen when one sets it to REPLY GROUP AND SENDER?

Exactly that, the reply will go to both the group and the sender.? Reply List was used for a very short time, but it created too many problems.? How Reply or Reply All work depends on the email client.

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On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 07:29 AM, Karin van Oostrum wrote:

Is this permanently, or only temporarily?

It's permanent for the Easy Transfer.? You can still do a manual transfer using the information at /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Moving-to-Groups.io

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I can only set it to receive domain emails to their personal one. I only check this forum once in the morning under the digest feature.?

If will email you privately where to find the auto forward feature (domain to personal). It used to be easy to find but it's now buried in an advanced feature which I can't recall offhand so I need to get back to my computer later this morning.?

If they want to reply using their domain email from their personal address, (which is what I do), some can. I use Gmail which allows me to reply from the address that it was sent to.?Gmx does the same but not all ISPs offer that ability. If not, then yes, they do have to log into the domain to reply.?

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Thank you all for your considered replies. I learned a lot and also went off to?CostaRicaLiving to learn about moving there. (I'm in a neighborhood group about retiring abroad.)

On the rare occasions I need to speak the name, formally it's Groups dot Eye Oh, but less formally Groupsie-oh. When the context is clear in writing, I use g.io.

?- Mark, but not that Mark

Greetings all,

I've beaten up all I can find, read more than covers the topic and find myself very confused and more than a bit disappointed in the apparent non-function of REPLY GROUP AND SENDER.

I was hoping for an elegant means of allowing message recipients to reply to whom they wanted, fairly clearly (in a revealing way -- seeing who the addies are), and definitely easily. This whether from the web interface, webmail or an MTA (mail client.)

I've administered a number of listservers, Yahoo! Groups, and the like, using all of that mentioned.

I favour use of REPLY LIST in a (good) MTA (from 1996 to now) and REPLY (to Sender/Originator.) The non-munged approach. (My mobile MTA (K9 Mail) forces use of REPLY ALL. sigh.)

I became Owner of a Y!G a couple of weeks ago to help save it. It was set for Reply Group. After several days of reading, trying different settings, and testing from and between the three chief means of accessing messages I've given up and have set it here to REPLY GROUP.

Just what is expected to happen when one sets it to REPLY GROUP AND SENDER?

I've seen seemingly unpredictable responses, with up to three choices, and _no_ choices! I can hit up REPLY or REPLY ALL (REPLY LIST not appearing in Fossa Mail, Thunderbird fork) and get no satisfaction.

Sorry, super tired after learning at a great rate, working for days to achieve an optimal (plus cheap) save and feeling confounded in spite of prior knowledge, trying to not assume overly much, toward a satisfactory response. I feel like I've gone dumb and have disappointingly decided to press on with the lowest common (munged) denominator. <grin>

So, a wordy plea to make my case and help my understanding in this matter. I'm sure there may be some good questions about settings I've tried. I'm really beyond that.

What can be achieved? What needs to be set to do it?

Cheers, John
- not much used to Good Enough For Now
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I wanted to transfer a group from Yahoo to Groups.Io. However, there is a message telling me it is no longer possible to do so.

Is this permanently, or only temporarily?