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Re: Messages Marked As Spam

 

Please read this wiki page.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Removed-for-spam

The person who is removed gets an email with a clickable link. Your member just needs to click link and they are resubscribed.

If you just moved, probably lots of dead email addresses.

Frances
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Messages Marked As Spam

 

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I¡¯ve been receiving several messages a day like this one since I migrated my group from Yahoo to GIO.

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Hello,

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This is to notify you that xyz12345@... has been unsubscribed from your group [email protected] because a message to them was marked as spam. Note that this may have been done by their email service provider, not by the individual member personally. They've been given a link that lets them quickly resubscribe, in case this was an error.

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To turn off this notification, log into and edit your subscription.

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Thank you for choosing Groups.io groups.

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Cheers,

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The Groups.io Team

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This message ?doesn¡¯t provide a lot of information. What message, in particular, was sent to them? Was this something that was sent by GIO when the YG was transferred? Or was it an email sent to them through one of the Group messages?

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The message indicates the member was given a link that lets them re-subscribe but so far I¡¯ve not received any messages showing any these members have done so. If they do re-subscribe, will I get a message notifying me?

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I¡¯m in the dark about this and I¡¯m wondering if I need to be proactive and follow-up further with these members.

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Leland

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Re: Manual transfers from Yahoo Groups

 

Sorry for continuing to ask questions - I'm trying to get to the last bit of clarity with this.
Will I be able to us YahooMessagesApplication to download the messages in a format (not mbox) that can be uploaded correctly into a new group?
Cal
Re: Embedding the signup form in wordpress.com?

 

The code works perfectly on my wordpress.com page.

Kathleen
Re: I and the moderators ARE NOT HAPPY WITH IO GROUPS. Please read and help!

 

On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 06:47 PM, Janie wrote:
My moderator who is not getting?any of the emails (that have answers to all 3 questions) is already set to All Emails.
It occurs to me now that you might be confusing Individual Messages with All Emails. This is not the same thing.

Click open her member record. As a Moderator, she should have an Owner Email block. Make sure it's set as shown (screenshot below). If this block is not present, she is not a Moderator.

Bruce
Re: I and the moderators ARE NOT HAPPY WITH IO GROUPS. Please read and help!

 

On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 06:47 PM, Janie wrote:

Hi Bruce. I never thought the sky was falling. lol. It's just been frustrating for all the mods and myself.?

The subject line led me to believe you were upset. If both you and your Moderators are truly unhappy with groups.io then other options are available.

1) Are you saying that I can also "Lock group" as an alternative to Announcement only? I'm assuming that means the moderators can't post either, which is fine. They just want the break. But will I as?owner still be able to post during the?two day break with Lock group?

There is no function in groups.io that will allow the group Owner to post while inhibiting posts by Moderators.

2) If I give a moderator the ability to "modify group settings", that sure does give someone a lot of power. ?Is there a setting where I can be notified if any of the settings are changed?

No. You would have to check the Activity Log for that.

3) As far as making another mod a co-owner...would they have the power to remove me as owner??

Yes.?

These last three questions suggest that to want to spread the work around but aren't willing to trust anybody. You can't have it both ways.

4) My moderator who is not getting?any of the emails (that have answers to all 3 questions) is already set to All Emails. I?already asked her to check spam. She's getting nothing. Sure need help with that.?

Check her Email Delivery History (button at the top of her member record).

Hope this helps,
Bruce
Re: I and the moderators ARE NOT HAPPY WITH IO GROUPS. Please read and help!

 

Duane, I used the Member Notices to create an automatically-sent notice that goes to anyone Pending. It states they need to reply with answers to the three questions I created.?

And the moderator who approves members doesn't receive the reply with the answers, and I have her set to ALL EMAILS.?
Re: I and the moderators ARE NOT HAPPY WITH IO GROUPS. Please read and help!

 

Hi Bruce. I never thought the sky was falling. lol. It's just been frustrating for all the mods and myself.?

For the Announcement only, I'll pay close attention to whether I'm saving it next weekend.?

No, all members post and moderators respond to their posts. I couldn't even begin to have changed 22,000+ subscribers to an override. Now a lot of those 22,000 were not moderated in the Yahoo group. Is that what you are considering an override? I'm just going to hope that if I change the group to Announcement only this next weekend that no one will be able to post.?

QUESTIONS:?

1) Are you saying that I can also "Lock group" as an alternative to Announcement only? I'm assuming that means the moderators can't post either, which is fine. They just want the break. But will I as?owner still be able to post during the?two day break with Lock group?

2) If I give a moderator the ability to "modify group settings", that sure does give someone a lot of power. ?Is there a setting where I can be notified if any of the settings are changed?

3) As far as making another mod a co-owner...would they have the power to remove me as owner? I remember that?happening in a few facebook groups. Could that happen in the IO groups?? That is the last thing I'd want to happen. I've owned this group for 17 years.?

4) My moderator who is not getting?any of the emails (that have answers to all 3 questions) is already set to All Emails. I?already asked her to check spam. She's getting nothing. Sure need help with that.?
Re: LInk Forum Membership with Organization Membership #membership #api #website #subscription

 

On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 08:16 AM, Sandi D. wrote:
I have been thinking along the lines of your post today, wondering about bringing my domain account users into GIO and weighing the pros and cons.?
Hi, Sandi -

I've read your post through a couple of times, and it's sparked a lot of ideas for me, mostly around GSuite management of email, which I've done with other domains, and considering a Google Group (or two) for our Board Members, as you have done. I also think it's a good idea to keep private business away from public forums, and I'm really liking GIO for our public discussion group.

I realize that you're asking some of the same questions about GIO that I am about what is feasible/possible. And I believe that a benefit of having GSuite manage the MX records of your domain accounts would be that you could use /api#google-login-start to get a security token and log in your users. At least I think that's true--you'd have to confirm with the API group.

As for switching domain email accounts on or off in GSuite, I don't think it would throttle their ability to access your GIO site, although I could be wrong. I think their GIO accounts would still be active, but they just couldn't send or receive any email messages from/to GIO because you'd prevented them from sending/receiving emails. But they would still be able to access the GIO site and read what's in there, I think, until you go into GIO Admin and remove that user from your group. You'd have also messed up their ability to participate (with your domain email, at least) in any other forums they'd signed up for within GIO. At least, I think that's the way it works... :-) I'm new here.

Thanks again for sharing your thoughts!

- Gary
Re: An announcement from PG Offline - Y! group transfer extension!?

 

On 12/10/2019 4:38 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
So how good is the Yahoo download? I've submitted three requests to Yahoo for my content. The first time I got nothing. The second time I got most of my messages and files, but none of the photos or links, no attachments, and it took two weeks. The third time it only took two days, but still no photos, and only one attachment out of the six groups.
I submitted a request on Saturday using my xxx@... email address and received a link on Monday to a 1.6GB zip file. This appears to have at least most of the content from the last twenty years from all the groups I'm still subscribed to, including files, photos, and links.

Most of the photos were saved as "files", but one group had "photos_and_attachments".

I did find that the links were not clickable, giving an "invalid target" message, but when opened in a text editor the content was correct. Here's an example:

[Owner] 8
quixzole
[OwnerID] 9
191047249
[Title] 26
Official BMW Club Bulgaria
[Description] 0

[TimeStamp] 12
001089103554
[URL] 26


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Re: An announcement from PG Offline - Y! group transfer extension!?

 

Some PG Offline users are experiencing being locked out.

PG Offline was, for me, able today to download some messages from one
group. I believe there has been new content added for one or two other
of my groups but it only found new messages in one.

At one pint it told me there was a server issue or I was locked out.
Then PGO continued with the rest of the groups but there were no more
messages found.

Glad I got them a few weeks ago and kept up with refreshing my groups
every few days.

Donald

On Tue, 10 Dec 2019 13:38:36 -0800, "Bruce Bowman"
<bruce.bowman@...> wrote:

If you want attachments and photos, I suspect you still have only 4 days to get your data using PGO. No sympathy for procrastinators.

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Re: An announcement from PG Offline - Y! group transfer extension!?

 

On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 08:46 AM, Andy W wrote:
I just received this from PG Offline. Make of it what you will.
The way I read it, Yahoo will continue to allow you to request a download of your data via the Privacy Dashboard thru Jan 31 but still plans to take all online content down on Dec 14.?

So how good is the Yahoo download? I've submitted three requests to Yahoo for my content. The first time I got nothing. The second time I got most of my messages and files, but none of the photos or links, no attachments, and it took two weeks. The third time it only took two days, but still no photos, and only one attachment out of the six groups.

If you want attachments and photos, I?suspect you still have only 4 days to get your data using PGO. No sympathy for procrastinators.

Bruce
Re: I and the moderators ARE NOT HAPPY WITH IO GROUPS. Please read and help!

 

On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 02:51 PM, Janie wrote:
The moderator that approves members is set to receive messages. i.e. this below, yet she doesn't get them.
How are the questions sent?? Is it part of a Pending Subscription notice or are you sending them directly?? You should always include as much detail as you can about the group settings and anything else that may impact the situation.? It seems that about 99% of the time, problems are solved when people look at what they've done and realize they made a mistake.? The other 1% are bugs or misunderstanding of how things work on GIO.

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Re: Yahoo has extended deadline for downloading to January 31, 2020 11:59 PST #yahoo

 

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It's a Verizon PR stunt, IMO. In late October, I requested my data from Yahoo. Eventually, I got a message in my Yahoo mailbox (who ever bothers to use Yahoo mail ?) saying "there is no data matching my request to download". I only have ca 20 groups, with 10,000 members, and ca 200,000 messages.

Yahoo is aptly described by Lilly Tomlin and has thye same attitude as tye ell system did....? "If you don't like it, take your business tp another 'phone company".

-John

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On 12/10/2019 1:50 PM, Frances wrote:

See this in Slate about the extension:



PC Magazine reports - "Verizon still plans on shutting down Yahoo Groups on Dec. 15 as a discussion board site. However, the company is going to extend the deadline for users to download content from their pages to Jan. 31, 2020. "Individual Groups users can use this tool to download any content he or she posted on Yahoo Groups," the company said in an email."

That gives you time to use getmydata -?

That download creates a download in mbox format. A couple of options then.
See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Moving-to-Groups.io

Frances


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Re: Changing Email of Owner..

 



On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 3:51 PM Joe Wolfe <w7rkn.7@...> wrote:

I created a group, but don¡¯t want my email address to be shown as the owner of that group.? I don¡¯t want to delete the group as I won¡¯t be able to use that group name again for some time, but **DO** want to retain the group name.

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Any suggestions!


Create a throwaway email address such as a gmail, make it an owner, and remove your real Email address as owner.?

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Re: I and the moderators ARE NOT HAPPY WITH IO GROUPS. Please read and help!

 

The moderator that approves members is set to receive messages. i.e. this below, yet she doesn't get them.?

All EmailsReceive every message that is sent to [email protected].
Changing Email of Owner..

 

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I created a group, but don¡¯t want my email address to be shown as the owner of that group.? I don¡¯t want to delete the group as I won¡¯t be able to use that group name again for some time, but **DO** want to retain the group name.

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Any suggestions!

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Thanks..

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Joe
Re: I and the moderators ARE NOT HAPPY WITH IO GROUPS. Please read and help!

 

On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 02:11 PM, Janie wrote:

1) THE FAILURE of "ANNOUNCEMENT GROUP ONLY" TO STOP ALL POSTS FOR TWO DAYS TO GIVE MODERATORS THEIR WEEKLY BREAK: Yesterday, in the middle of the two day moderator/admin break, I found out about setting the group to Announcement Group only to stop posts. YET six posts have appeared this morning BEFORE I undid the Announcement group only. Why??

Janie -- First, you need to relax and take a deep breath. The sky is not falling.

1) Did you save the setting? If you don't click "Update Group" at the bottom of the page after making the change, you did not make the change.
2) Is it your Moderators that are doing the posting? Setting the group to Announcement still allows Moderators to post.
3) Do you have any of these subscribers on a posting override? Everyone should be set at the Group Default.

If this still doesn't meet with your satisfaction -- and you have a Premium group -- you can halt all group activity for however long you wish by clicking the "Lock Group" button at the bottom of the Settings page.

2) BEING UNABLE TO GIVE A MODERATOR/ADMIN THE POWER TO CLOSE POSTINGS FOR TWO DAYS: ?It looks like I, as owner, am the only one who can make it an Announcement group only on one evening, then I, as owner, am the only one who can undo the Announcement only designation (if it only worked!!). ?Where can I give this ability to one of my moderators as was done in the Yahoo group? (and why didn't it work in the first place?)

You can delegate this responsibility to a Moderator by giving him/her the "Modify Group Settings" permission. Or simply make someone else a co-owner, which you really should consider doing anyway.

3) A MODERATOR/ADMIN BEING U|NABLE TO SEE THE THREE QUESTIONS WE HAVE SET UP FOR NEW MEMBER REQUESTS: ? I get emails showing the answers to the three questions. Yet I have a moderator designated to approve members as she did in the Yahoo group. Am I, as owner, forced to be the only one to see the answers to these questions??

Change his/her Owner Email setting to "All Emails."

Bruce
Re: Yahoo has extended deadline for downloading to January 31, 2020 11:59 PST #yahoo

 

On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 01:58 PM, Frances wrote:
Okay, found it on Yahoo's site:


Beginning October 28, new content won't be able to be uploaded to the site, and all previously posted content on the site will be permanently removed after December 14. We will continue to process requests to download your content as long as they are submitted by January 31, 2020.?
This does NOT mean that Groups.io will start transferring again.?
It does give you a chance to salvage your messages, etc. from Yahoo.

Caveat (from the wiki page)
Neither Lena's way nor PGO are capable of getting the messages' From and Date info set to the original From and Date.
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The unfortunate thing is that the getmydata downloads often miss the groups' photos and attachments entirely, and the mbox files it delivers only have placeholders for them.

Frances
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Finding stuff in GMF and in the wiki #search #wiki

 

You know about the search button on the message archive page. And you can even search by hashtag. (Go to Hashtags on the lefthand menu. Click on topics.)
More info here -?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Using-the-Search-Engine

And at the foot of your group page, there is a Help link to the system page.

There is also a ton of info in the wiki, most based on frequently asked questions.
And yes, there is a search box at the top right of each wiki page.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/home

Frances

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