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On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 01:51 PM, Carola F. Berger, PhD, CT wrote:

Lena, thanks, but it can't be moderation, I'm moderator of some groups, owner of some others, and the same problem appears for the groups that are explicitly set to unmoderated.?

Carola -- A message can end up moderated even though the group itself is not.?Was a hashtag applied with a moderated flag set? Was the message posted to a moderated topic? Was it sent from an email address that's not actually subscribed to the group?

Bruce

Lena, thanks, but it can't be moderation, I'm moderator of some groups, owner of some others, and the same problem appears for the groups that are explicitly set to unmoderated.?

Derek, that's why I posted here first, from the header analysis I wasn't sure where the problem was, and thus, which support to contact -- I'll contact groups.io support and see what they say.

Thanks,
Carola

This looks like moderation. Simple as that. Carola, are you a moderator or owner on that group?

On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 11:36 AM, S. Kalyanasundaram wrote:

Appreciate knowing how to find the total storage used

Messages (conversations) don't count against storage.? While signed in as Admin, us the left menu to select Admin > Billing (Upgrade for free groups) and you'll see a summary page for the usage.

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On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 11:53 AM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

Wondering on my end if PGOffline even works anymore.

Sometimes.? Depends on how YG is behaving.? I had to try 3 times, over several hours, to get an update for a YG that I'm archiving with PGO.

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On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 12:35 PM, T Golding wrote:

Mark's reporting the yahoo problems and what he can and cannot do, so it's not us, it's yahoo.

The "invalid address" error seems uniquely associated with inviting the transfer agent from the wrong provider (groups.io instead of Y!G). See screenshot below, and more to follow.

We can only hope he finds a few more windows of opportunity to help people get moved over here.? It's a good place to read for updates and the latest information on yahoo's meltdown.

is indeed a good place to check for updates of this nature.

As for whether Y!G ever gets running again to the point that transfers again become possible, I'm not sure the good folks at Yahoo care to put any resources into that. Wondering on my end if PGOffline even works anymore.

Bruce

On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 07:56 AM, Sandi D. wrote:

As an aside, is there an estimated or "normal" time frame for approval in GMF? They have always posted in the next day digest so far so I am figuring it is probably within 24 hours.?

As a clarification on this point, the approval comes from the administrators of YOUR GROUP, not Groups.io. Therefore, the time needed to approve a message is dependent solely on the participation level of the moderators of that group and has nothing to do with the Groups platform.

Dave

On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 11:59 PM, Janis wrote:

My groups are already transferred. I was just trying this to see if it would work for others wanting to transfer.? This address I added also already has a Yahoo ID.? Maybe why I was able to promote this other Me.

Janis,

I do not think this is going to be a reliable procedure. I just tried an invite with checking the add to email list only. No success, just the same old error message.

My group also no longer has the capability to change anyone's role.
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I am not able to find out where I find out the amount of storage used up till now in my group. Appreciate knowing how to find the total storage used, including storage used by different segments (conversations/photos/filed etc.).

Carola,

The 127.0.0.2 address would be internal to the server processing the message (in fact any IP starting 127 should stay within the walls of the device), so would appear to be at the groups.io end. There are plenty of reasons for this happening, some better than others. I would strongly recommend posting this to [email protected]?- it may be they have a misconfiguration and this may highlight it. Or you could just have been unlucky and the message was placed in a pending queue for some reason.

It may be worth bearing in mind that however frustrating it may be, e-mail isn't guaranteed instant delivery, it's designed to cope with all kinds of transmission problems. Traditionally mailservers were configured to allow anything between 3-5?days before giving up and returning it as undeliverable!

Regards,

Derek

You're probably right, you're smarter than I am.? Last night when I tried to post from our gmf, I got an error that said I don't have permission to do that, or some such, so I thought maybe this sounded similar.? But probably not.

Thanks, Duane.

Terri

Duane, and all, I just looked on the beta group.? Mark's reporting the yahoo problems and what he can and cannot do, so it's not us, it's yahoo.
We can only hope he finds a few more windows of opportunity to help people get moved over here.? It's a good place to read for updates and the latest information on yahoo's meltdown.
Terri

On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 11:00 AM, T Golding wrote:

I don't think it's him not following procedure

I'm pretty sure it is.? The message he's getting "It says it's an invalid address" is typical when trying to invite from GIO instead of YG.? On YG, it normally says something like "An error occurred." when it doesn't work.

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I don't think it's him not following procedure, if you've been on groups lately, you know how much is not working.? I get errors nonstop trying to do basic things like read messages and post.? I don't know if yahoo will get it together enough for people to transfer, it's questionable.? And as always with yahoo, different people and different groups have different experiences and problems.? To me, at this point, group functions feel mostly gone.

Terri

All,
I've been searching through the threads here and I didn't quite find an answer. Long story short, I'm managing several groups, and am member of a number of other groups, and sometimes messages are delayed by hours until they arrive in my inbox.
I tried to decipher what's going on from the message headers, but some funky ISP address shows up in the headers, where the delay occurs and I'm not sure what to make of this.

Here's the message analysis as done by Google's analysis tool?

As you can see, there's an 11-hour delay at a ISP address of 127.0.0.2 - which seems to be in between groups.io relays. So, I'd appreciate if you could explain to me where the problem lies - at groups.io, or at my receiving end.
Thanks,
Carola

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A little more detail.? The 'normal' URL for my chosen view is /g/GroupManagersForum/topics? When I click to change date order, it becomes /g/GroupManagersForum/topics?p=RecentPostDate%2FSticky,,,50,1,0,0? When I click a second time, it changes to /g/GroupManagersForum/topics?p=RecentPostDate%2FSticky,,,50,2,0,0? The 3rd digit from the end toggles between 2 (most recent first) and 1 (oldest first).? If I save one of these as a bookmark, it sorts in that order when using it.? If the bookmark doesn't have the ? and all the stuff after it, I see my last used view.

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On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 08:53 AM, Ken Kloeber wrote:

Is date preference set by a cookie?

I didn't find a cookie for it.? It's apparently stored as part of your account, though I haven't figured out where exactly.

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On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 02:57 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

Did you bookmark the page with the wrong sort order?<<<

I did a couple of tries and even returning using my old bookmark I come back to my new sort setting.
Is date preference set by a cookie?

Hi Ronaldo,

Thanks for your further explanation.
Looks like I need to learn more about LOCK and MUTE for topic in groups.io system, that was not available in Yahoogroups.
Hopefully I can speed up my learning process. :)

Budhi S.