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On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 05:30 PM, Bry Carling AF4K wrote:

Thanks Hermen, but - WHY is it SO HARD to get information about this $110.00 ??

I didn't see a THING about it while creating my new group and tryting to integrate over from yahoo groups.

Creating a group costs nothing, so it stands to reason that you wouldn't run into this information until you start looking around for transfer instructions.

They made it sound like everyhting would transfer over and no mention of $110

I don't know who "they" might be.?

Regards,
Bruce

On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 05:30 PM, Bry Carling AF4K wrote:

Can anyone tell me what this menas please? How long will it take?

Your group must be reviewed to be sure it meets the groups.io Terms of Service.?

Are they waiting for me to do something else?

No. Your group should be approved in a few hours.

I tried to trabsfer over our Yahoo Group, but it seems stalled...

Everything has to be done in order. While you're waiting, familiarize yourself with the process:??/g/GroupManagersForum/message/19673

Regards,
Bruce

The duplicated email address would be subscribed to both subgroups, but appear only once in the main group.

That would be the same for a brand new member who joined your Gio group and then two subgroups.

Thanks Hermen, but - WHY is it SO HARD to get information about this $110.00 ??

I didn't see a THING about it while creating my new group and tryting to integrate over from yahoo groups.

They made it sound like everyhting would transfer over and no mention of $110

Sigh...

AY! - New Group "Awaiting Approval"

Can anyone tell me what this menas please? How long will it take?
Are they waiting for me to do something else?

I tried to trabsfer over our Yahoo Group, but it seems stalled...

On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 05:28 PM, Elizabeth Benson wrote:

I need help changing a member to a moderator.?

Open their member record (Admin>Members, click on the row) and pull down the Role menu.

Also, where do I go to check on my transfer from yahoo groups.

See?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/19975

Regards,
Bruce

I need help changing a member to a moderator.? Also, where do I go to check on my transfer from yahoo groups.

Thank You

Beth

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use PGoffline 4

[Mod Note: PGOffline does not directly interface with either the transfer agent or groups.io to get anything into your new group. It can download your Yahoo group to your PC.]

On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 04:53 PM, I wrote:

The Yahoo activity log is not migrated.

Well, I am wrong on this one. The activity log IS migrated, but the date/timestamps are all changed to the date of migration. And all the text data (including email addresses) remain in it.

My bad!

Bruce

Hi Herman, it is been said time and time again, that the 110 has to be paid upfront in order to get a full transfer

Rachel, any messages that or St. During the downtime, will be put in the queue and when the system is back up, does messages will post.

Many thanks, Duane, that's great!

Can I also ask what happens with email addresses if one of the transferred groups is installed as a subgroup; might there be duplicates then, please?

TIA, Roger

On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 04:59 PM, Hermen wrote:

So i started a group with a monthly payment plan. Is that enough to use the Transfer Agent or do i really need to pay 110 up front??

Hermen -- You really need to pay $110 up front. The agent is not going to do your transfer for you only to have you "change your mind."

I have 4 groups on Yahoo that i would like to transfer to this 1 group on Groups.io
Is this possible??

It is possible, if you're sure that's what you really want to do.

Regards,
Bruce

Hi,

So i started a group with a monthly payment plan. Is that enough to use the Transfer Agent or do i really need to pay 110 up front??

I have 4 groups on Yahoo that i would like to transfer to this 1 group on Groups.io
Is this possible??

Kind regards?
Hermen

On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 04:53 PM, Rachel wrote:

As the group is down for two hours 9-11pm eastern -- are emailed messages held in queue until the site is accessible?

Rachel -- Yes. All queued mail will be processed when the servers come back up.

Should members be told to be patient or to NOT send messages during this timeframe?

Doesn't matter, really. I have told the people in my groups, mainly to alert them that the web interface will be unavailable for awhile.

Regards,
Bruce

As the group is down for two hours 9-11pm eastern -- are emailed messages held in queue until the site is accessible?
Should members be told to be patient or to NOT send messages during this timeframe?

Thanks,
Rachel

On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 03:21 PM, @Smith3000gt wrote:

We are looking to transfer from Yahoo! Groups to Groups.io and we have a couple of questions for privacy purposes.?

Yep. I'm surprised no one has asked about this before now.

1. If we choose to NOT transfer the "Members" data, will the messages show with the Yahoo! Alias still or will it be substituted with "Unknown"/"Anonymous" or will it use the Group.IO account the messages are transferred to? Also will these messages/threads still be able available to post new information??

Pretty sure it will still show the Yahoo alias ("Display Name", in groups.io parlance).

It's kinda hard to explain without an example. It's entirely possible for two subscribers in your group to have the same Display Name. In groups.io -- and probably Y!G too, -- message "ownership" is actually tracked by an invisible number called a "posterid", not by any text string.?

So if you leave the members behind during a transfer, that message will no longer be associated with any "posterid" within groups.io, because such an account does not exist. For example, you won't be able to "find" other posts by that person by searching on "all posts by this member." But the text metadata?will remain in the message base, whether the associated member is migrated or not. Specifically, the from address is not munged or changed to "anonymous."

I hope that made sense.

2. If we choose to NOT transfer the "Members" data, will any email accounts from Yahoo! Groups be migrated over? So for example if someone?s email account is found in the "message history" of a thread or the "Activity Log" (that would possibly be migrated from Yahoo! Groups)??

The Yahoo activity log is not migrated. Also, the transfer agent will not parse message bodies for email addresses, remove member information, phone numbers, etc from quoted text, or anything like that. If that concerns you, you'd probably be ahead of the game just creating a new group and starting afresh.

Thank you for your time and we understand that you are receiving many more questions then a week ago so we will be patient :)?

I just hope that I somehow managed to answer your question. If not, it might be useful to know exactly what might be concerning you.

Regards,
Bruce

I've done it both ways:

1. To a Free account
2. By Easy Transfer to a Premium account

No question, #2 gives a far superior replica.

What I did for #1, as outlined by the previous post was to use PB Offline 4 to download Files, Photos, Messages, Links, Members to its database. The Files and Photos files are not in its database but sit in folders following their hierarchy on Yahoo. I uploaded those en masse to the g.io Files. Note that none of the metadata comes with them so I painstakingly edited one by one to copy them over from Y!G. The messages can be exported from PBO in a few ways as a single file of all messages or in chunks of 50 per file. I've uploaded those to Files.

Nothing in Files can be previewed; everything downloads. You cannot search contents without downloading. G.io has the content but it is pretty useless as is. However, if Owners/Moderators/Experts have the downloaded content and are adept at using various tools to search, copy and post the good stuff (either unilaterally or in response to queries), the more valuable content could resurface in the new group. That might be an advantage in some ways for long standing groups that have become cluttered.

The developer of PBO also offers a $100 transfer service to a bulletin board plugin on WordPress. I don't know how good that might be but, having done my own migration from the now defunct Wikispaces to a hosted WP site, it is probably feasible to do so oneself, given the right skillset. I spent dozens of hours doing it myself with an inadequate skillset.

Tom