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I had asked a while back for a group setting that disables messages altogether. If I remember correctly I was told it is?being placed way?back on the back burner. That was when I was told about using the -test to get rid of messages in bulk. ? That would be the ideal?solution to have a way that that messages could just be disabled altogether if the group owner didn't want members to have access to them. ? I believe?others have written asking?about that feature as well. ? Thanks, Ilene? ? ? ? ?

On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 11:05 AM, Leeni wrote:

I didn't know that it was in a trial mode. I thought it was a feature in place for groups IO. Why are you surprised Mark left it in place for as long as he did?

It has been in trial mode since July of last year (Ref:?). That seems like a very long time for such a thing.

I agree with that. I hope there is a new?way in development for mass deleting messages. ?

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While you can live without it, the circle of groups that I hang around in cannot. We are all used to not even having messages visible in the first place.?

Understood. And I see that you've posted something about this in beta.

A bulk message deletion feature is something that has often been requested here. As for your own situation, I recommend that you ask for what you really want...a group setting that disables the message archive altogether.

Regards,
Bruce?
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Hello

I have a member who have/had some e-mail problems that I'm still in the process of sorting out.

The member is currently subscribed with two e-mail addresses, say, user@... and user@.... When I visit the message history of both these accounts, I see a bounce notice (although oddly I don't see this bounce mentioned in the group's history):

For account user@...:

Recent Bounces
When Message Reason
Mar 28 [message title] 550 Rejected by header based Anti-Spoofing policy: user@... - [6lDVz9szPvqv-XYAnfANkQ.za31]

For account user@...:

Recent Bounces
When Message Reason
Mar 28 [message title] 550 Rejected by header based Anti-Spoofing policy: user@... - [Md2vVsKuMW6C1h0uPf43KA.za82]

What I find odd is that both bounce messages refer to user@.... In other words, a message that was sent to user@... triggered a bounce message that mentions user@.... (The code at the end of the message is also different, I assume it's a reference number.)

Can anyone shed some light on this?

(This member was subscribed to the Yahoogroup using both e-mail addresses, with one of them set to no-mail, and this had something to do with forwarding of mails within their company, so that the user thinks he's using e-mail address X whereas in fact his e-mails' headers say he's using e-mail address Y, or something like that.)

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Samuel

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Thanks for answering. I know it remains offline as of yesterday afternoon. ? I didn't know that it was in a trial mode.I thought it was a feature in place for groups IO. Why are you surprised Mark left it in place for as long as he did? ? I agree with that. I hope there is a new?way in development for mass deleting messages. ? ? While you can live without it, the circle of groups that I hang around in cannot. We are all used to not even having messages visible in the first place.?Past Messages?are something that Graphic Sharing and Creative Artist groups do not need to be seen by members as we are strictly email groups. ? Thanks, Ilene ? ? ? ?

Topics-test remains offline as of this morning.

Removing something that was in trial mode to begin with does not strike me as a "bug"...especially when a banner notice is displayed in its stead. Frankly, I'm surprised that Mark left it in place as long as he did.*

Here's hoping that he brings back some new flavor of multi-message delete function. The rest was kinda handy, but I can live without it.

Regards,
Bruce

*Wondering now if someone stumbled across it and did some serious damage to their message archive.
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On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 01:25 AM, Ken Kloeber wrote:

I'm not sure there's actually a distinction between PC or mobile in Groups.io's rendering - I think it is all based on screen size.

Negative.
I've addressed this B4 to Beta and it's fallen on deaf ears.? Along w/ other serious issues on a "device."
Look at it on a tablet.

-k

?Ken,

I agree with Shal. I've also tried this on a cell phone, a tablet and a PC. In my testing on a "Reply" to a message,? I have only ever seen the functionality change based on the starting size of the display and it has been consistent across devices.

I would be interested to know what issues you might have found.

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Hi Bill,

Off-list you said:

The problem appears to be in the email address. The meswsage acts like
there is already one of my lists, but a search fails to show it.

That is possible. You (as a group owner/mod) get to decide whether to include the group in Groups.io's directory or not. So your group name may be taken by a group that is unlisted.

I will disclose that with moderators approval.

You may if you wish.

Remember though that GMF's Messages are public - and searchable with web search engines. Normally I think that's a good thing for a help group like this (so people can find answers) but one does have to decide what kinds of information you want to post in public.

Also, I get a create list instead of a finish button.

Clicking the Create List button creates the group, there is nothing else to finish, really. From there you continue setting up the group using the normal group Settings page.

Please can somebody give me a suggestion? I use screenreading
software and am blind.

I don't know if that figures in to the problem you are having, but I know there are other vision-impaired members of GMF who may be able to you better details on using the site with those tools.

No matter what I try, I cant create my nostalgia list. I even tried a
new name and was still informed the new email was invalid.

Invalid is different than already taken, so there may be some other problem involved.

Do I pay?

No.

Not until you've created your group, and only if you want to upgrade to Premium features. You will have to do that (prepay for one year) to use the Easy Group Transfer function to copy your Yahoo Group's content.

Shal
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Ken,

Look at it on a tablet.

Don't have one.

I've addressed this B4 to Beta and it's fallen on deaf ears. Along w/
other serious issues on a "device."

Maybe Mark is too focused on finishing the mobile apps to do much fine-tuning of the responsive interface. If so that's a shame, I'm not a big fan of infesting my mobile devices with third-party apps.

But we're off topic here because Su's problem has been resolved by widening his browser window.

On a Win10 desktop, with Firefox, I find the window must be 1010 pixels wide or so at 100% zoom to have the full set of buttons. I don't know how that translates to units on a tablet, because the browser zoom figures into it to (it is the width in some kind of text size units, not pixels, that matters).

If the browser on your tablet lets you zoom out (make the text smaller) that might do the trick.

Shal


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I'm not sure there's actually a distinction between PC or mobile in Groups.io's rendering - I think it is all based on screen size.

Negative.
I've addressed this B4 to Beta and it's fallen on deaf ears.? Along w/ other serious issues on a "device."
Look at it on a tablet.

-k

Hello, it just means that your group is an announcement group only. So in order to posting a, an owner or somebody who you make a moderator.

r First, thank you for making me aware of my powsting errors, Now the email
No matter what I try, I cant create my nostalgia list. I even tried a new name and was still informed the new email was invalid. Help! Do I pay? create
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Michael,

There is a thing called Group Announcement in setting and you set it
to Moderator only.

What is Group Announcement?

Do you mean Announcement Group?

That's a group where only moderators are allowed to post messages. Just as it says on the Settings page.

Shal


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Su,

So it is recommended to tell members of the change in the address

I would, just so that they don't worry that something has gone wrong or that the group has been "hacked" (that seems to be a popular catch-all worry these days).

Also, is there a reason the lists aren't configured this way to begin
with so that there does not have to be a change if when you create
sub-groups?

Partially it is history - subgroups weren't in the initial rollout of Groups.io. A lot of water under the beta bridge, just about three years ago.

Also I think the idea is that the default case (no subgroups) should have a "normal" list address, like other list services (list name to the left of the @ sign, hosting service to the right).

I think at one point I suggested in beta that the subdomain form be accepted from the start, to prime the pumps as it were. I don't find that post at the moment.

But that didn't go as far as your suggestion, which is to make it the address from the start. I can hear the wailing and gnashing of teeth from group owners who don't intend to ever have a subgroup. But if existing groups are grandfathered as-is and all new groups start off with subdomain addressing that might not be such a bad thing. Over time it becomes the new normal (at least for groups on Groups.io).

Shal


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I am in the process of deleting very old messages from when my group was on Yahoo. The messages are all blank. There isn't anything in them. I went to work on deleting them and I got the following message ? Did I miss something in chat here? Or is this now a bug? ?

Ken,

Parts of the toolbar (VERY IMPORTANT PARTS) are not available on
"devices."

I'm not sure there's actually a distinction between PC or mobile in Groups.io's rendering - I think it is all based on screen size. For example, if on my PC I drag my browser window to be very narrow I get the same layout that I see on my smartphone.

On the other hand I don't seem to be able to "zoom out" enough on my smartphone to see all the buttons. Perhaps if Su's bug report gets attention this will get better for mobile too.

Shal


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There is a thing called Group Announcement in setting and you set it to Moderator only.

What is Group Announcement?

Donald,

This bring up a question, "Can you make the group premium for the
first month only then change it to a free group?"

No.

The transfer requires pre-payment of a year ($110), but you can let the group revert to Basic when the year is up.

Shal


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Thank you for the explanation. So it is recommended to tell members of the change in the address or just let it happen "organically" as you explain?

Also, is there a reason the lists aren't configured this way to begin with so that there does not have to be a change if when you create sub-groups?

Su

On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 14:33:46 -0700, "Julie Edwards"
<yardkat@...> wrote:

I see that in Feb it changed so that you need to have a Premium account for that to work.

Thanks for bringing this up. I haven't followed every thread and
wasn't aware of this.

This bring up a question, "Can you make the group premium for the
first month only then change it to a free group?"

Donald


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