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Re: Show all members in directory, but do not show member list
On 2019/02/26 03:09 AM, Leeni wrote:
The only thing that I can think of as a group owner?you can say if they don't?show themselves in the directory?they can't be a member of your group.Well, I'd like to require them to reveal their real names, but if their real names will be shown next to their e-mail addresses, it might be a hurdle for some people to join the group or remain (and I understand). Samuel |
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Re: "Claimed by" tag added to pending post
On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 08:47 PM, Regan Kibbee wrote:
I tried to edit the subject field of a member's message pending moderator approval. (I added "F/S" - per our guidelines for notices of items for sale.) However, the message did not go though. It is still showing as pending, with the original subject field, and now with a tag: "Claimed by Regan Kibbee" (i.e. me.)Yes, Moderators can edit the subject line, message body, and remove attachments of a message in Pending status. When done, you need to click on the "Save and Approve" button. If the message is still Pending and displays the original subject line, you must have begun the edit and somehow exited the editor without either saving it or approving it. And, is it possible to remove the "Claimed by..." tag?Once you begin to edit someone's message in moderation, you have claimed it, and no other Moderator can open it. You need to finish your edits and approve the message, or reject it, or delete it, or complete some other action on the Pending message. If you find that you can no longer perform moderation duties on the message even though you have claimed it, that's a bug and should be reported to support. ? Hope this helps, Bruce -- The system Help is your friend.??/static/help |
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Re: "Claimed by" tag added to pending post
Regan, you didn't do the last step. Approve the message.
I "love" the Claimed by... tag! We have several moderators and a couple of owners. With this tag, we don't step on one another's toes. It used to be that I would be checking an URL in the message to be moderated and someone else would approve it. Annoying!? For some more info, see the wiki -?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Approving---moderating-a-message I am not sure what happens if I started dealing with a message and then wanted to back out.? Frances -- /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki /static/help More help: use the search button at the top of the Messages list. |
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"Claimed by" tag added to pending post
I tried to edit the subject field of a member's message pending moderator approval. (I added "F/S" - per our guidelines for notices of items for sale.) However, the message did not go though. It is still showing as pending, with the original subject field, and now with a tag: "Claimed by Regan Kibbee" (i.e. me.)
Why did this happen? Are moderators able to edit a subject field of a message, or the content -- such as to delete unnecessary attachments -- and then approve the message and send it out? And, ss it possible to remove the "Claimed by..." tag? Thanks, Regan Kibbee Venice Moms Moderator |
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Re: Show all members in directory, but do not show member list
On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 05:07 PM, Samuel Murray wrote:
Is there a way to force all members to show up in the directory?Not that I'm aware of.? It's voluntary. Duane -- Help: /static/help GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions |
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Show all members in directory, but do not show member list
Hello
Is there a way to force all members to show up in the directory? I know I can set the group to allow all members to see the membership list, but I would prefer not to, because then all members' e-mail addresses are visible. In the directory, members can control whether they want their e-mail addresses visible. Thanks Samuel |
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Re: Deleting emails
On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 03:16 PM, Cherry Delaney wrote:
Anyone know how to delete faster?This method is faster for topics, but can't be used for individual messages.? Use the address /g/groupname/topics-test, replacing groupname with the actual name of your group.? Then you can select as many topics as you want to delete at once.? Be careful because after they're deleted, they're gone!? You may also want to go to your Account, select Preferences, and choose a different number of items per page. Duane -- Help: /static/help GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions |
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Re: Option to not be told that message was already approved?
On 2019/02/25 03:54 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
I don't think there's a technical reason why Groups.io couldn't accept that email and then send back a notice written as helpfully as we would like.If we're talking about the e-mail I was referring to in my initial mail, then I would prefer that that e-mail *not* be responded to. In other words, if a moderator attempts to moderate something that has already been moderated, then that moderator's message should just disappear. If one moderator already rejected a pending message, and another approves it (or vice versa), then it makes sense for the moderator to receive some sort of feedback about it, but otherwise an extra message telling the moderator the his moderation has been successful, is not necessary, at least for not for me. Samuel |
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Re: Import existing main group as a subgroup?
Mark has said this is technically possible, but that he's not doing it.? I can't find the post on beta at the moment.
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Re: Option to not be told that message was already approved?
On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 05:02 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
I don't think there's a technical reason why Groups.ioAccepting and sending back can cause backscatter (replies to spam going to innocent people and spamtraps). A moderator's Windows can be infected with an email address harvesting trojan, harvested email addresses (including approval addresses) are then spammed. In "From" spammers put random email addresses from the same spamming lists. Replies to spam pollute mailboxes of innocent victims, and trigger spamtraps. Rejecting email commands instead of accepting and sending back is the right anti-spam behavior. |
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Re: Migrating mails by simply forwarding all old mails
On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 10:24 AM, Samuel Murray wrote:
Yes, I would create a separate Gmail account for this purpose alone, so all forwarded messages would be from a sender who is not engaged as an actual member. Also, I intend to forward all mails before any other mails are sent, so at least they'll all be at the start of the list.To the extent that you can, keeping things in chronological order would be a benefit. Actual posting dates can still be gleaned from message headers, if you can find a way to insert them into the body of what you forward. There are 1200 message, but only about 300 threads (as defined by Gmail), so perhaps I can figure out how to save entire threads (as displayed by Gmail) and send the "threads" as single messages.It occurred to me after posting my previous response that the threading done by groups.io as you forward the messages could be a little wonky. For example, I don't know if groups.io treats "Fwd:" the same way it treats "Re:" when threading; and there is a time component (see /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Avoiding-threading-topics---threading-algorithm). Sending an entire thread as a single message could serve to obviate this problem. Regards, Bruce ? -- The system Help is your friend.??/static/help |
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Re: Migrating mails by simply forwarding all old mails
On 2019/02/25 02:55 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 05:06 AM, Samuel Murray wrote: What are your opinions about "migrating" the old messages by simply The only real problems with this idea are that those messages will not be readily searchable by posting date and will all show as being posted by the subscriber who did the forwarding. Depending on your situation this may be less objectionable than leaving them behind.Yes, I would create a separate Gmail account for this purpose alone, so all forwarded messages would be from a sender who is not engaged as an actual member. Also, I intend to forward all mails before any other mails are sent, so at least they'll all be at the start of the list. There are 1200 message, but only about 300 threads (as defined by Gmail), so perhaps I can figure out how to save entire threads (as displayed by Gmail) and send the "threads" as single messages. You might consider flagging each forwarded message by adding a hashtag or something.Good idea. I should be able to edit all message's subject lines in bulk (e.g. in Thunderbird you press E on a message in the list). Samuel |
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Re: Migrating mails by simply forwarding all old mails
On 2019/02/25 03:32 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
Samuel wrote: (The ideal would be if I could simply import an MBOX file, but I Mark once said he would handle that as a support request (for peopleIt did not occur to me to ask, but personally I would not consider it inappropriate to ask. After all, uploading an MBOX file takes much less effort than having to create such an MBOX file and then upload it (and I don't need to migrate files, members etc). I just assumed that the option was not available, and I just assumed it was for reasons of abuse prevention (otherwise anyone can upload any mails even if they don't really have the right to use those mails -- if Mark does the transfer, he knows exactly where the mails come from). Samuel |
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Re: Option to not be told that message was already approved?
Samuel,
Thanks for your input -- I'll clarify this when posting it as an RFE.Hmm... This may be a reasonable request after all. Looking at this again, I believe that the "Undelivered Mail Returned to I wrote: So the only part of that message Groups.io can improve is the text of the status value, which is usually quoted somewhere in the body of the failure notice. While that's true of an error response given during the delivery of your approval email, I don't think there's a technical reason why Groups.io couldn't accept that email and then send back a notice written as helpfully as we would like. In particular, that return notice need not be (and should not be) treated as a deferred rejection. It is just a notice that the system sent you. Granted that extra processing would be less efficient for Groups.io's servers, and your inbound email, than the upfront rejection but that hardly seems like a heavy price to pay for an infrequent (hopefully) situation. In the grand (whenever that happens) the option to receive such notices could be added to the list of moderator-related notice checkboxes. Subordinate to receiving the pending message notice, possibly. Shal ? -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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