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I'm assuming my group is NOT one of the 8? The transfer was in progress, and I just wandered by to see if anything was happening, saw I needed to do something, and now I'm being asked to upgrade. (Foolishly I missed that it was the year of premium, and paid for the one month, figuring I would just absorb the expense for the group.) So I'm still stuck in transfer limbo, now have paid for a month, definitely can't afford to pay for a year, and guess I just have to go back to the idea of transferring everything item by item, member by member. I wasn't even wanting to bring the message archives.
?But it's for a volunteer group, so I can't really ask them to pay.

vandy

On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 11:23 AM, Samuel Murray wrote:

Not that I am aware of. Such a setting would negate the ability to approve messages via email.

It would not negate it. Being able to moderate via e-mail and getting
notified via e-mail when something requires moderation, are separate
things, IMO. It is perfectly feasible to have both. (I assume the
relevant option is "Email when there are messages needing approval".)

It might be handy to be able to send a notification only, with a link to the message itself, but with neither the message attached nor the reply options that would permit one to approve it without logging in. Such an option might be a good suggestion for beta, accompanied by an appropriate use case.

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On 2019/02/20 04:15 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 09:52 AM, Samuel Murray wrote:

Is it possible to set the system so that the moderator gets
notification that there is a message waiting to be approved, but
without having to receive a copy of the mail himself?

Not that I am aware of. Such a setting would negate the ability to approve messages via email.

It would not negate it. Being able to moderate via e-mail and getting
notified via e-mail when something requires moderation, are separate
things, IMO. It is perfectly feasible to have both. (I assume the
relevant option is "Email when there are messages needing approval".)

I find the potential to edit pending messages incredibly useful, and I
suspect I'll use it a lot, but that would mean visiting the web anyway.

Samuel

On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 09:52 AM, Samuel Murray wrote:

1. Is it currently possible for members who are subscribed via e-mail to choose/specify not to receive attachments via e-mail, even if the moderator approves a message that contains an attachment?

Yes...a Subscriber can do this by going to Subscription>Advanced Preferences>Max Attachment Size and changing the entry to 0.?Or if the Subscriber has difficulty logging in, you as a group Owner can do it for him by opening his record in the Member List and again opening the Advanced Preferences section. Having done so, the Subscriber record in the Members List will display an "A" tag. See /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Status-Badges-in-the-Members-List, Email Delivery section.

It is also possible to set this as a group default by going to Admin>Settings and clicking on the "Default Sub Settings" button at the top of the page. The default will only apply to Subscribers that join after you've made the change, and can subsequently be altered by the individual as described in the previous paragraph.

2. I've noticed that if I remove an attachment from an incoming, moderated message, the message contains no information that an attachment was removed (I must edit the message manually and write that information into the e-mail myself, if I want it to be known). Is there a setting that will make that information known? E.g. if an attachment is removed by the moderator, the message would e.g. contain say something like [attachment "very large file.zip" (20 MB) removed].

There is no setting to automatically notify anybody of edits you might make during message moderation. You must do that yourself.

3. If the moderator gets a notification to approve a message that contains an attachment, the message is itself attached, so the moderator receives the attachment in his e-mail. Is it possible to set the system so that the moderator gets notification that there is a message waiting to be approved, but without having to receive a copy of the mail himself?

Not that I am aware of. Such a setting would negate the ability to approve messages via email.

4. Is there an option whereby attachments that are sent to the list, are not actually attached to the mails, but are stored online, and a link to those attachments are put in the mails instead, so that users who want to view the attachment can click the link and download it?

Any email received by the group whose combined attachments exceed the Max Attachment Size setting will be sent as links. This determination is done on a subscriber-by-subscriber basis as the outgoing emails are sent to the group members.?

Note that all attachments continue to reside on the server in association with the corresponding messages in the message archive. They also count against your quota. The only way to keep them from accumulating is to disallow attachments in settings. See Admin>Settings>Message Formatting>Attachments for available options.
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Hello everyone

I googled before asking.

1. Is it currently possible for members who are subscribed via e-mail to choose/specify not to receive attachments via e-mail, even if the moderator approves a message that contains an attachment?

2. I've noticed that if I remove an attachment from an incoming, moderated message, the message contains no information that an attachment was removed (I must edit the message manually and write that information into the e-mail myself, if I want it to be known). Is there a setting that will make that information known? E.g. if an attachment is removed by the moderator, the message would e.g. contain say something like [attachment "very large file.zip" (20 MB) removed].

3. If the moderator gets a notification to approve a message that contains an attachment, the message is itself attached, so the moderator receives the attachment in his e-mail. Is it possible to set the system so that the moderator gets notification that there is a message waiting to be approved, but without having to receive a copy of the mail himself?

4. Is there an option whereby attachments that are sent to the list, are not actually attached to the mails, but are stored online, and a link to those attachments are put in the mails instead, so that users who want to view the attachment can click the link and download it?

Thanks
Samuel

On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 07:10 AM, Samuel Murray wrote:

To turn off this notification, log into and edit your subscription.

The clue is in there.? There are several ways to get to the information.? The easiest is to go to the group in question and click on Subscription on the left menu.? Toward the bottom of that page, you'll see a section named Notifications where you can choose which ones you want to be sent to you.? If you're the group owner, there's another section just below that where you can decide which Owner Email will be sent.

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On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 08:10 AM, Samuel Murray wrote:

However, it gives no clue as to *where* in the subscription these notifications can be turned off (and presumably turned on). I visited what I suspect are all tabs, but could not find it. Can anyone tell me?

It's under Subscription>Notifications. If you're the group Owner (or a Moderator with Set Moderator Privileges), it can also be found in the Notifications section of your record in the Members List.

Regards,
Bruce?
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Hello everyone

A new user joined, and as moderator I got a notification via e-mail about it (I'm happy with that). The notification says:

To turn off this notification, log into and edit your subscription.

However, it gives no clue as to *where* in the subscription these notifications can be turned off (and presumably turned on). I visited what I suspect are all tabs, but could not find it. Can anyone tell me?

Thanks
Samuel

On 2019/02/20 09:05 AM, Brooke Brooks wrote:

Do I really need to use a different email to login to my groups to keep my personal address out of the footer [next to unsubscribe]?

1. The e-mail address next to "Unsubscribe" is the e-mail address of the recipient, not the sender. You'll see your own e-mail address also at the bottom of mails that other people sent to this or your list (and the other people see their own addresses there).

It took me a while to figure it out, though: that e-mail address is the e-mail address that you (the recipient) is subscribed with.

2. The sender's e-mail address is noted in the "Reply to sender" link.

3. With my Yahoo and Google groups where I'm the owner or moderator, I'm always subscribed using a separate e-mail address. It helps keep things separate.

4. Are you asking if it could be possible to set multiple "FROM" addresses in the web version of Groups.io and then make it possible to select a FROM address from a dropdown list whenever you send an e-mail (similar to how it would work in an e-mail program where you can select the FROM address that you're sending a reply from)?

Samuel

A confirmation email is sent when someone applies to a group with an email address that does not currently have a groups.io account.?The purpose of the confirmation email is to demonstrate that the person who applied (usually via the "join this group" link on the home page) actually owns the email address they entered and wants to receive groups.io emails there.

This email will contain a link that she needs to click on to get out of "Not Confirmed" status. See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Status-Badges-in-the-Members-List?for further details.

You can send a new confirmation email for her. To do this, open her user record in your group's Member's List and click on the corresponding button. But as Chris mentioned, she needs to quit changing her email address and confirm one of them. Without knowledge of what kind of mess she may have created, it's hard to know if it will actually work.

Hope this helps,
Bruce
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On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 11:31 AM, Peter Rawbone wrote (quoting a new member):

Should I be doing something else?

Well... put simply yes.The stock message she received asked her to Send another confirmation email; did she do that? She has clearly not followed the established routine for setting up an account and/or a group subscription, and on the face of it has complicated matters further by changing her email address twice.

She is going to have to stop and do what the system has asked her to do, although if she has been tinkering with her email address that may not work.

Without wishing to be unkind there are some people who can create confusion faster than anyone else can help clear it up and at the moment it looks rather as though she might be one of them.

Chris

In the subgroup go to settings, scroll down to subgroup category and choose from the drop down. ?Then save.

Good morning,

I've just received this from a new member of our group:

Do I really need to use a different email to login to my groups to keep my personal address out of the footer?

I started a groups.io for my sons school. Now 600+ families see my personal email address in the footer of school wide emails. I also started one for a sister school (another 700+ families) and lastly a bulletin board for both schools (1300+ families and alumni a whopping 2100+ families) HELP!

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Shal, Ouch!?
Another open barn door?
Good reason for moderating postings to it.
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Your original information didn't include that you personally knew each of the people who applied.
If your only accepts people whom you know, why not make it a restricted group and, that way you delete them in the pending members group?
That way, you prevent any spammer or malintentioned person from being able to read all of your messages?
which you current methodology doesn't do.
You are opening the barn door to strangers by letting the automatically join.
The can read anything that in your archives, any unprotected files, and any other "loose information"
Possibly delete pictures, albums, files, etc.

You are not using proper safeguards.
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Bob,
To clarify, my method in no way endangers anything as no spammers are able to join my group. As I said, I do review each individual account before unmoderating it. I get notifications that Joe, Sally, Mary, have joined.? I go into the member directory, recognize their email addresses (because I know them in real life and their accounts were on our former yahoo group), select all 3 and unmoderate them. They haven't made a post yet, I'm just doing the work up front rather than waiting for them to post. It is not circumventing the spam filter, but rather doing it in a slightly different manner than designed. In addition our group is private and these are usually people for whom I have sent invitations to join. If there were to be someone that I did not recognize then I would leave them moderated, but we have never had any 'strangers' try to join before.
I absolutely agree that spam prevention is very important and would not do anything to risk spammers getting in.
-patti