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personal email in the footer next to unsubscribe

 

Do I really need to use a different email to login to my groups to keep my personal address out of the footer?

I started a groups.io for my sons school. Now 600+ families see my personal email address in the footer of school wide emails. I also started one for a sister school (another 700+ families) and lastly a bulletin board for both schools (1300+ families and alumni a whopping 2100+ families) HELP!


Re: Email Overload

 

Nobe,


Recently, Gmail made some changes which added additional folders under the left side of page menu.
Such as, updates, forums, promotions, which usually include the same items coming through the inbox, creating many duplicates ...

I'm not seeing anything new in either of my Gmail accounts, I think you may have simply opened something that was already there:

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Those items under Categories are just different collections of messages from your Inbox. They aren't duplicates of your Inbox messages, just another way of searching for them.

and just today is causing my account to bounce.

What do you mean by "bounce"? Do you mean that you attempted to send a message to a group and it "bounced" back? Or do you mean that you aren't receiving messages from your groups? Gmail has truly enormous storage limits so it is fairly unlikely that your Inbox would be full.

For what it is worth, your address hasn't bounced any messages from GMF. I can't tell about your other group subscriptions, but you can by visiting the Recent Bounces page of your Groups.io Account. Report back here what it tells you there, particularly in the Reason column, if there are any Recent Bounces listed.

Is there a way to remove these labels, etc. or a setting that can be changed?

Probably. But it is likely easier to just hide them by clicking that little triangle to the left of the word Categories. This is not a Groups.io issue, so you probably want to find a Gmail support forum where you can ask questions about Gmail.

Shal


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Email Overload

nobe
 

Hi!
Recently, Gmail made some changes which added additional folders under the left side of page menu.
Such as, updates, forums, promotions, which usually include the same items coming through the inbox, creating many duplicates and just today is causing my account to bounce.
Is there a way to remove these labels, etc. or a setting that can be changed?
Thank you in advance.


Re: What is "Create a receive-only email" option?

 

Shal, Ouch!?
Another open barn door?
Good reason for moderating postings to it.
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Re: Spamfilter

 

Your original information didn't include that you personally knew each of the people who applied.
If your only accepts people whom you know, why not make it a restricted group and, that way you delete them in the pending members group?
That way, you prevent any spammer or malintentioned person from being able to read all of your messages?
which you current methodology doesn't do.
You are opening the barn door to strangers by letting the automatically join.
The can read anything that in your archives, any unprotected files, and any other "loose information"
Possibly delete pictures, albums, files, etc.

You are not using proper safeguards.
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Re: Spamfilter

 

Bob,
To clarify, my method in no way endangers anything as no spammers are able to join my group. As I said, I do review each individual account before unmoderating it. I get notifications that Joe, Sally, Mary, have joined.? I go into the member directory, recognize their email addresses (because I know them in real life and their accounts were on our former yahoo group), select all 3 and unmoderate them. They haven't made a post yet, I'm just doing the work up front rather than waiting for them to post. It is not circumventing the spam filter, but rather doing it in a slightly different manner than designed. In addition our group is private and these are usually people for whom I have sent invitations to join. If there were to be someone that I did not recognize then I would leave them moderated, but we have never had any 'strangers' try to join before.
I absolutely agree that spam prevention is very important and would not do anything to risk spammers getting in.
-patti


How to Organize Subgroups into Categories

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Could someone assist me in organizing my subgroups into categories?? I tried creating subgroups, and I tried creating categories, but I cannot figure out how to assign a subgroup to a particular category.

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Re: What is "Create a receive-only email" option?

 

Bob,


It actually creates a direct, private, one way channel into a group from the email address of the first email received through it to the group, according to your description above.

Duane has done some testing today that belies my description. I thought I had tested this behavior but instead they do seem to accept messages from all senders. I'm not sure if there is more to the story or if I have been simply wrong about that.

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Re: What is "Create a receive-only email" option?

 

On 2019/02/19 10:16 PM, Bob Bellizzi wrote:

Shal, it would seem that a more accurate & descriptive name is needed to self-describe how this works.
I think I got it: it is "receive-only" from the group's perspective. It is "send-only" from the human's perspective. I tend to think human. :-)

Samuel


Re: What is "Create a receive-only email" option?

 

On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 09:14 AM, Shal Farley wrote:
One specific non-subscriber address per integration. On first use the integration remembers the sending address and thereafter accepts messages only from that address. It does not create an open portal that could be used by anyone knowing the integration address.
Shal, it would seem that a more accurate & descriptive name is needed to self-describe how this works.
It actually creates a direct, private, one way channel into a group from the email address of the first email received through it to the group, according to your description above.
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Re: What is "Create a receive-only email" option?

 

Samual,


Do you mean that non-members can post messages to my group if they send their e-mail to the
"receive-only" e-mail address??

One specific non-subscriber address per integration. On first use the integration remembers the sending address and thereafter accepts messages only from that address. It does not create an open portal that could be used by anyone knowing the integration address.

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So its like a one-direction subscription
-- you can send messages to the gruop, but you won't receive any replies
unless group members deliberately include use your From address?

Correct, mostly

Unlike an ordinary subscription, the sender uses this integration address to post to the group, not the group's normal posting address. And unlike an ordinary subscription, the group admin who sets it up doesn't need to know the actual sending address in advance.

What sort of situations would one use this for?

As Bruce said, the primary application is for posting notices from automated services, the key factor being that the sender doesn't have to be subscribed to the group (which can be tricky to achieve when dealing with a send-only address).

It could in principle be used for announcements from an individual (human) sender, but that case would more normally be handled by subscribing the person to the group, perhaps set No Email.
Shal


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Re: What is "Create a receive-only email" option?

 

On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 07:57 AM, Samuel Murray wrote:
What sort of situations would one use this for?
Our group uses the email integration to automatically post web formmail and PayPal notifications to a "member management" subgroup. So it's useful for getting these kinds of automated notices into your groups.io message archive and distributed appropriately. They arrive with an #email hashtag that can be customized for topic duration, message delivery, etc.

You could also subscribe this email address to a listserv, or set up your email client to auto-forward messages conforming to certain rules to this address, or...

I cannot understand the benefit and do not recommend sharing an email integration address with non-subscribers.

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Re: What is "Create a receive-only email" option?

 

On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 12:57 PM, Samuel Murray wrote:
Do you mean that non-members can post messages to my group if they send their e-mail to the "receive-only" e-mail address?
Yes, that seems to be how it works.? I've just done a test from an email address I have that is not linked with Groups.io in anyway and the message came through to my group.
but you won't receive any replies unless group members deliberately include use your From address?
The reply options can be controlled in the Admin > Settings > Message Policies section and can be Group, Group and Sender, Sender or Moderators.

Andy


Re: What is "Create a receive-only email" option?

 

On 2019/02/19 12:49 PM, Duane wrote:

Using this option will create an email address for the group that can only receive messages, not send.? Anything sent to this email address will get posted to the group.
I'm still not quite sure what it is. Do you mean that non-members can post messages to my group if they send their e-mail to the "receive-only" e-mail address? So its like a one-direction subscription -- you can send messages to the gruop, but you won't receive any replies unless group members deliberately include use your From address?

What sort of situations would one use this for?

Samuel


Re: What is "Create a receive-only email" option?

 

Using this option will create an email address for the group that can only receive messages, not send.? Anything sent to this email address will get posted to the group.? It can be set to deliver messages without moderation, even if the group is moderated, but can also be set to require moderation.? It includes the entire email address of the sender, including any name they may have set on their email program.? It's a convoluted string of characters that wouldn't be easy to replicate, so should be relatively safe unless you post it someplace.? If that were to happen, you could always delete it and create another.? One thing I noticed this morning is that there doesn't seem to be an entry in the Activity Log when these are received.

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What is "Create a receive-only email" option?

 

Hello

I could not find the answer to this question in the help files. What does the "Create a receive-only email address that posts to your group" option do? It makes no sense... how can a "receive-only email address do any posting? Or, perhaps I don't understand what a "receive-only email address is.

Thanks
Samuel


Re: Spamfilter

 

On Feb 18, 2019, at 6:04 PM, Chris Jones via Groups.Io <chrisjones12@...> wrote:

On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 10:42 PM, Michael Pavan wrote:
The Pending Subscription feature does not put an applicant on hold.
Er... yes I know that.

What it does do is send more information to the applicant at the same time it sends a ¡°Subscription Approval Needed¡± notice (with a 14 day deadline) to all Moderators with approval permission.
Incorrect; it sends the applicant a message that says whatever the owner / moderator wants it to say. It does not by definition send more information to the applicant, although it may do depending on what is conatined within it.
"whatever the owner / moderator wants it to say¡± = more information, whatever it says (even if they already have it, and the Owner / Moderator wants to send it to them again).

Its clear purpose is to invite the applicant to provide more information about why they wish to join.
My point is that it might "invite the applicant to provide more information about why they wish to join¡±, but it doesn¡¯t not require a response before approval.


The Moderator who sets up the "Pending Subscription¡± Member Notice might (or might not) include a request for more information from the applicant.

If it doesn't include that request then there is no point in using the Pending Subscription message exchange at all.
I agree, but when I proposed (on beta) that it should put a hold on an application (for that purpose), other argued they do not use it that way and were upset that it be ¡®changed¡¯ to use it that way!

I then suggested rather than change the name of the ¡°Pending Subscription¡± Member Notice to "Additional Group Information¡± to reflect what they believed was its predominate usage (to provide additional information); that a new Member Notice be created called ¡°Additional Information Required¡± that would also put the the ¡°Subscription Approval Needed¡± notice (which starts a 14 day approval deadline) on hold until it was responded to.

Some made the good point that they would like to be informed when someone had applied even if ¡°Additional Information Required¡±. I then suggested at the time of application that an ¡°Additional Information Required¡± be sent to applicant and a "Application Received¡± notice (which did not start an approval deadline) be sent to Owners/Moderators.

See "Subscription Approval Needed notices sent prematurely¡± thread



This has nothing to do with any Hold feature. In the group I moderate if an applicant does not reply to the Pending Subscription message then they simply don't get in. This has no direct connection with the Hold function; that is simply an additional option.
It is possible, and I try to have all 9 of my restricted groups function that way. Unfortunately, occasionally a Moderator (trying to be helpful, I¡¯m sure) would reflexively approve by replying to a ¡°Subscription Approval Needed notice (without remembering that a "Pending Subscription¡± Member Notice is automatically sent) and waiting for the response.

I was castigated for 'not better training my Moderators¡¯. Later the same person complained that they don¡¯t always have time to ¡°review¡± an application due to the 14 day clock that was started by the application (because applicants do not always answer quickly) ?

The point I was making was that without using the Pending Subscription capability how can anyone "review" an applicant. The bald notification that "x" has applied to join contains no information on which a review could be based unless the email address is visibly "strange¡±.
I agree, as I¡¯ve described that feature is not fully developed yet to function well for all.
The new Claim feature is a non-automated work-around that gets part way there.


Re: Spamfilter

 

On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 10:42 PM, Michael Pavan wrote:
The Pending Subscription feature does not put an applicant on hold.
Er... yes I know that.

What it does do is send more information to the applicant at the same time it sends a ¡°Subscription Approval Needed¡± notice (with a 14 day deadline) to all Moderators with approval permission.
Incorrect; it sends the applicant a message that says whatever the owner / moderator wants it to say. It does not by definition send more information to the applicant, although it may do depending on what is conatined within it. Its clear purpose is to invite the applicant to provide more information about why they wish to join.

The Moderator who sets up the "Pending Subscription¡± Member Notice might (or might not) include a request for more information from the applicant.

If it doesn't include that request then there is no point in using the Pending Subscription message exchange at all.

This has nothing to do with any Hold feature. In the group I moderate if an applicant does not reply to the Pending Subscription message then they simply don't get in. This has no direct connection with the Hold function; that is simply an additional option.

The point I was making was that without using the Pending Subscription capability how can anyone "review" an applicant. The bald notification that "x" has applied to join contains no information on which a review could be based unless the email address is visibly "strange".

Chris


Re: Moderator Permissions

 

On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 02:11 PM, Duane wrote:
I'm a bit ambivalent about whether they need to see the list.? In many (most?) cases, they won't miss having a certain permission if they don't know it exists.
That's probably a fair comment. What led me in this direction was the point about Moderators being able to see (or not see) the View Attachments link on the Upgrade page. It just seems a bit odd that it is only available to a moderator who has Billing permissions, when in reality access to it might be useful for managing attachments, even if that can be achieved by other routes.

Chris


Re: Spamfilter

 

On Feb 18, 2019, at 8:16 AM, Chris Jones via Groups.Io <chrisjones12@...> wrote:

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Are you using the Pending Subscription function? If not, how are you reviewing each member before giving them free rein?
The Pending Subscription feature does not put an applicant on hold.

What it does do is send more information to the applicant at the same time it sends a ¡°Subscription Approval Needed¡± notice (with a 14 day deadline) to all Moderators with approval permission.

The Moderator who sets up the "Pending Subscription¡± Member Notice might (or might not) include a request for more information from the applicant.

[Mod note: slight bit of semantics here. It is the Restricted Membership checkbox in the Spam Control section of the group's Settings page which controls whether an person can join the group, or whether they must apply and have their application held pending approval. The Pending Subscription member notice is optional, but is only sent if the group is Restricted Membership.]

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