Re: Yahoo transfer #transfer

On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 10:31 AM, Bob wrote:

This is terrible news for small groups. I have three Yahoo groups of 10-15 members each waiting to convert from Yahoo to Groups.io. That would now cost us $330, making the conversion cost prohibitive.

I can understand why paying $7-10/subscriber might be prohibitive.

We are faced with abandoning message histories on Yahoo dating back a number of years, or looking for a solution other than Groups.io.

If you can export your message base using PGOffline, you may be able to print it to a PDF and upload that to the target group's files area. It won't be indexed or anything, but would still be searchable using Acrobat Reader. All depends on how often subscribers read past posts, which in my experience they rarely do.
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I'm not aware of any other service that will transfer your message archive for you. You can of course look for other solutions, but it seems to me that this problem will remain.?

Good luck,
Bruce
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Re: Lost control

#14888

On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 01:34 PM, herlwyn118 wrote:

I can still log in but get no further.
What can I be doing wrong?

Are you sure that you're logging in with the account (email address) that you used to set up the group?? Has someone else demoted you from owner/moderator?

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Re: MSG restoration #messages

#14887

On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 11:50 AM, Phil Lo Presti wrote:

If a fellow moderator accidently deletes a post or a topic, is there a way to restore

In a word, No.? That's why there are verification steps when performing those type of functions.

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Lost control

#14886

Need assistance - I changed our group over with integrations, but cannot now recall how I get back into my admin page - I need to add members etc. I can still log in but get no further.
What can I be doing wrong?

Re: Yahoo transfer #transfer

#14885

My PREMIUM level group was transferred this morning. I purchased the annual PREMIUM package, which is an incredibly small price to pay for the transfer.

Re: Yahoo transfer #transfer

Mike Conder

#14884

I thought a premium subscription only costs $110/year?? I have that in a couple of my groups as our photos were over 1 GB in size.

So for 10 members, that'd only be about $11 each, one time fee.

Mike Conder

Re: Yahoo transfer #transfer

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Why not just export the yahoo grupsstuff to I think it's MBox iles and email them to mark? I did that for a mailman group and everything was seemless, everything but one month, but out of the 15 years, that was not too bad.

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On 12 Feb 2019, at 8:22, Shal Farley wrote:

Bob,

> We are faced with abandoning message histories on Yahoo dating back a
> number of years, or looking for a solution other than Groups.io.

I'm not aware of any other solutions which can copy out the content of your Yahoo Group, so you may be faced with keeping the Yahoo Group open as an archive, as Ilene suggested.

One solution that comes to mind is PG Online, the hosted service version of PG Offline. That wouldn't have been free either, in that you have to pay for hosting your online site. That trades the upfront expense with Groups.io for an ongoing expense, so it may or may not be an acceptable option.

But I don't find PG Online listed on their site, so maybe that fledgling service never made it off the ground. At the least, PG Offline can give you a local copy of your group's content for safe keeping. For that purpose the free trial version is sufficient.

Shal

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MSG restoration #messages

#14882

Hello fellow admins,
I did a search first and could not find an answer, So figured I would ask here.

If a fellow moderator accidently deletes a post or a topic, is there a way to restore even though the msg no longer exists in the archive of the ListServ website?

I have a copy of the orig msg but rather than reposting and have it duplicate distro in our next digest, I was curious if there was a more elegant method.

Thanx in advance, Phil sends..

Re: Yahoo transfer #transfer

#14881

It would be nice to know the reasoning behind the change on GroupIO. I
suspect the case is changes at Yahoo make automating the task of copying the
group impossible. But with manual effort (ie real person time) it can still
be done. So I could understand the change as a way to recoup that working
time. Also the logic behind many groups needing other special help for the
first while further would justify the expense. A statement of details like
that from GroupIO would go far in letting people understand why the change.
Given the right details, I think most people would understand and accept it.
But without concrete details of the why, that leaves some with minimal
justification in their eyes for why. Now I don't have any idea if he would
come out and explain the issues and reasons, but it would help sensible
people understand.

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Re: Yahoo transfer #transfer

#14880

Bob,

We are faced with abandoning message histories on Yahoo dating back a
number of years, or looking for a solution other than Groups.io.I'm not aware of any other solutions which can copy out the content of your Yahoo Group, so you may be faced with keeping the Yahoo Group open as an archive, as Ilene suggested.

One solution that comes to mind is PG Online, the hosted service version of PG Offline. That wouldn't have been free either, in that you have to pay for hosting your online site. That trades the upfront expense with Groups.io for an ongoing expense, so it may or may not be an acceptable option.

But I don't find PG Online listed on their site, so maybe that fledgling service never made it off the ground. At the least, PG Offline can give you a local copy of your group's content for safe keeping. For that purpose the free trial version is sufficient.

Shal

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Re: Yahoo transfer #transfer

Leeni

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What I would do and have done for one of my groups?is manually invite?the members to join the IO the new IO group.?Or take a premium subscription for one month so you can add the members yourself. Recreate files the best you can in IO, BUT keep the yahoo group and the members in there so they can reference old messages and files if they need to. Disable posting in the Y group too. Ilene

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This is terrible news for small groups. I have three Yahoo groups of 10-15 members each waiting to convert from Yahoo to Groups.io. That would now cost us $330, making the conversion cost prohibitive. We are faced with abandoning message histories on Yahoo dating back a number of years, or looking for a solution other than Groups.io.

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Re: Yahoo transfer #transfer

#14878

This is terrible news for small groups. I have three Yahoo groups of 10-15 members each waiting to convert from Yahoo to Groups.io. That would now cost us $330, making the conversion cost prohibitive. We are faced with abandoning message histories on Yahoo dating back a number of years, or looking for a solution other than Groups.io. 

Bob

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On Feb 11, 2019, at 9:44 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:

Yahoo Group Easy Transfer will be back online Wednesday, but no longer free.

Mark says:
I'm going to make a change in the process however. For new groups
requesting a transfer, I'm going to ask that they pay for a year of
premium up front (they can of course downgrade after that). There are
8 groups that gave the go ahead to transfer between the time that
transfers stopped working and when I took down the transfer page. I
will grandfather them and not require they pay the year of premium.

Re: Managing groups

#14877

On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 07:13 AM, Northern Plains RC&D Council wrote:

If I have two different projects, should I create two different groups?? Can I manage them with just this one account?

To minimize difficulty/technicality, you should probably create two groups.? I have two related groups, one social and one technical, for the same subject area.? I have 2 accounts on each, one as owner, the other as a regular member.? I can do all of the management of either using the owner account (same GIO account).

Don't forget that the GMF Wiki pages are public, so you can refer folks to those if they need assistance with certain things (assuming there's a page that covers their need.)

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Re: Cannot login

Ellen Bourne

#14876

Thanks you Bruce, I followed the instructions to the letter.? We will see next time I try to login

Thanks again.

Ellen

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Managing groups

#14875

Our organization has a couple of projects going and this looks like it may be a way for interested folks to communicate.? Many of them are going to be fairly unsophisticated in communication, which is why I am trying to add a group email list to our Twitter and Facebook efforts (they don't use those SM tools).??

If I have two different projects, should I create two different groups?? Can I manage them with just this one account???

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Re: Cannot login

#14874

On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 07:17 AM, Ellen Bourne wrote:

I tried to logon last night and had to email the link to login. I tried to login this morning and had to resend the link to me once again.? Can you please let me know how I can select Groups.io and login regularly without requesting the link to login.

Ellen -- The subject line suggests that you could not log in at all. Were you successful in logging in using the emailed link, or not?

Once you are successfully logged in, you can set a password. Go to?/account, enter a password in the box, and click Change Password. Having done that, the next time you log in you can use either the password or the "email me" button. So you will have that option going forward.

Logons are stored as a browser cookie. If you used a new device or browser to access groups.io recently, it would have required you to log in again. Such behavior is normal.

Also, many mobile devices are configured to delete cookies as security against it being lost or stolen. If you are using a device that is set up this way, you will have to change your settings to make cookies persistent. More information on the device and browser would be needed.

Finally, the unscheduled system downtime that has occurred over the past three days has caused me (and perhaps some others) to have to re-login when that normally wouldn't have been required. That may have happened to you as well.

I hope something in here helps.

Regards,
Bruce
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Re: Cannot login

#14873

Hi Ellen,

if you do not have a password defined, you should be taken to your account profile settings after logging in with the link.? A message at the top of the screen should prompt you to create a password so just enter one and use the blue button just below the password field to create/update it.? After that you should be able to login without having to resort to using the link.?? If you don't see the account profile page initially after using the login link it's easy to get to by clicking on your user name in the top-right corner and then selecting Account.

Andy

Cannot login

Ellen Bourne

#14872

Good morning, I tried o logon last night and had to email the link to login.I tried to login this morning and had to resend the link to me once again.? Can you please let me know how I can select Groups.io and login regularly without requesting the link to login.

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Re: Message Blocked Due to Spam Content

#14871

Frank,

I am having similar issues with my very large groups.io community.Can you cite the Reason code for these rejections? Is it predominantly a given reason?

Most of our community uses gmail so the provider is Google, ie, not
exactly a "provider worth using".Actually, one of the most reliable of the mailbox providers I've used.

Could it be the DKIM keys need to be updated?It doesn't seem like it. I'm not having any rejections of messages to my Gmail addresses. Your message shows that Gmail believes (as of then) that Gmail thinks Groups.io's authentication is fine:

Authentication-Results: mx.google.com;
       dkim=pass header.i@... header.s=20140610
header.b=iiGiqw0z;
       spf=pass (google.com: domain of
[email protected] designates 66.175.222.12 as
permitted sender)Shal


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Re: Yahoo transfer #transfer

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Yahoo Group Easy Transfer will be back online Wednesday, but no longer free.

Mark says:
I'm going to make a change in the process however. For new groups
requesting a transfer, I'm going to ask that they pay for a year of
premium up front (they can of course downgrade after that). There are
8 groups that gave the go ahead to transfer between the time that
transfers stopped working and when I took down the transfer page. I
will grandfather them and not require they pay the year of premium.

If your group is one of the eight, and for some reason you DO NOT want to go ahead with the transfer, contact him before Wednesday.

Shal


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