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Re: Closing the Yahoo group

 

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It is up to you whether you keep the Y group open or you close it.
First make sure you are signed in.
Go to your group.
To get rid of it got to Management - upper right corner?
Scroll down until you see Delete Group
Click on that and I am not sure if you will have to confirm it or not but that is how you delete your yahoo group.
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I keep my yahoo groups open only for reference if I need to find someone's email address using a Yahoo ID.
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Date: 9/3/2018 10:22:45 AM
Subject: [GMF] Closing the Yahoo group
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Hello,

Many thanks for previous help with the move to Groups.io which I and members are happy with. However, I have noticed that our Yahoo group still exists and one or two members have unwittingly posted there. Is it time to close it down completely or will this just happen in due course without input from me? If it's up to me, then how do I go about it?

Barbara Howard ()
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Closing the Yahoo group

 

Hello,

Many thanks for previous help with the move to Groups.io which I and members are happy with. However, I have noticed that our Yahoo group still exists and one or two members have unwittingly posted there. Is it time to close it down completely or will this just happen in due course without input from me? If it's up to me, then how do I go about it?

Barbara Howard ()


Re: Wiki

 

Can the same thing be done with a PDF?

Peace,
Tom


Displaying HTML/XML code in message archive?

 

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Hi all,

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We are a technical standards body and in the process of our work we quite often use XML and/or HTML in our messages.

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We¡¯ve just moved some of our lists over from Yahoo Groups to groups.io and while it has worked very well in the most part, members have noticed that XML or HTML included in messages is not displayed in the web view.

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Content such as this:

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<a_made_up_xml_element new_attribute=¡±new_value¡±>

??? <another_made_up_xml_tag />

</a_made_up_xml_element>

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¡­ is formatted properly in emails, but not in the group¡¯s message archive.

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It appears that the ¡°Message Formatting¡± section of the settings page only changes the format of emailed messages, and we don¡¯t have a problem with those.

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Is this a bug or is there a setting that I¡¯m missing?

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Thanks,

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Re: Hotmail delivery

 

Yes, my question was about Hotmail, if other group owners were experiencing non-delivery of supposedly queued emails to hotmail users. One of our hotmail subscribers has had no delivery of groups.io emails for a week even though his delivery history shows a 2xx Queued response. Also because a web search reveals that other email lists/ have reported permanent non-delivery of message traffic supposedly queued by hotmail with the 2xx code.

I have since contacted two other of our hotmail subscribers who report normal email traffic from the group. At this point have no idea why the particular user above has no delivery of our group messages for a week.;they are not in his spam folder. But the problem is apparently limited to him.

Drew

On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 01:25 PM, Shal Farley wrote:


Drew,

> His and other hotmail addresses show
> "Queued mail for delivery -> 250 2.1.5"
> response in their delivery history.

Status codes 2xy are success codes. You should read "Queued mail for
delivery" as meaning "I got it".

> Is there an ongoing problem with delivery to hotmail? We have a
> complaint from a Hotmail subscriber who has received no group email
> for a week.

Deliverability to Microsoft-powered email services has been spotty or
worse in the past, so I wouldn't be too surprised if there's another
episode afoot.

Or it could just be that the member isn't checking his/her spam folder.

Shal


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Re: Wiki

 

Sharon,

It is in HTML pages along with any attachments in whatever form they
were attached in.

Any chance that these could (eventually) be imported to a Groups.io
wiki?
If you can open those pages in your browser, you can probably copy each from that browser window and them paste it into a blank group wiki page.

If that doesn't work you could try opening the pages in notepad (or another plain text editor) and then in he group wiki page editor switch to Source Code mode and paste in the raw HTML code.

One potential problem is that Groups.io's wiki may not (probably does not) support all of the HTML formatting elements that those pages contained. So you may have a fair amount of clean-up to do depending on how fancy the original pages were.

Another problem would be the attachments. If they are images you can use the Add Image button to insert them. If they are something else I'm not sure what you can do. Maybe host the file somewhere and provide a link to it on the wiki page. If your group's wiki is available only to group members you could put the attachment in your group's files section and link to it from the wiki. It isn't as easy to as it should be though, for lack of a permalink on the files.

Shal


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Re: About databases

 

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Attached is how we have the settings now after we changed the database back to normal.
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I just asked a plain member to go to the database and see if she sees the Edit Table button and below is her reply. So it may not be on everyone's database or all the databases but it is remaining on this one even though we have the setting so only Moderators or Creator can edit.
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Below is her reply...
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Yes, it is on the upper left.
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From: Duane
Date: 9/2/2018 7:32:27 PM
Subject: Re: [GMF] About databases
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Sure seems like a bug to me if you're sure it was an existing table and the member isn't a moderator.? You should report all the details - group name, table name (before and after), approximate time, etc. - to [email protected]? I just tried it on one of my groups as a regular member and had no Edit Table button, so couldn't change it.

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Re: About databases

 

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Okay I will get all of that information together and send it to support.
Probably do it later or tomorrow.
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This is what she had changed it to
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We did change it back.
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From: Duane
Date: 9/2/2018 7:32:27 PM
Subject: Re: [GMF] About databases
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Sure seems like a bug to me if you're sure it was an existing table and the member isn't a moderator.? You should report all the details - group name, table name (before and after), approximate time, etc. - to [email protected]? I just tried it on one of my groups as a regular member and had no Edit Table button, so couldn't change it.

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Re: About databases

 

Sure seems like a bug to me if you're sure it was an existing table and the member isn't a moderator.? You should report all the details - group name, table name (before and after), approximate time, etc. - to [email protected]? I just tried it on one of my groups as a regular member and had no Edit Table button, so couldn't change it.

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About databases

 

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I am not sure if this is a bug and if it should be reported in the Beta group?or not but I will tell you all what just happened.
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A database for one of my groups was created.
The settings for editing the table were set for Moderators and Table Owner
See Attachment -
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Yet a plain old member when into the database and instead of filling out a new row like we expected her to do............ Changed the title of the database to her email address, changed the name of the first column to her name and the 2nd column to her email address?- changed the color of the first 2 columns to red?and also?checked off?that the first two columns were mandatory to be entered.
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I thought by it saying the table could only be edited by Moderators and Table Owner would prevent the table from being changed.
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How can we prevent someone else from doing that unless I did something wrong or it is a bug?
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Wiki

 

I just downloaded a wiki from Google Classic Sites.

It is in HTML pages along with any attachments in whatever form they were attached in.

Any chance that these could (eventually) be imported to a Groups.io wiki?

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Re: Hotmail delivery

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Received from Drew at 9/2/2018 12:18 PM UTC:

Is there an ongoing problem with delivery to hotmail? We have a complaint from a Hotmail subscriber who has received no group email for a week. His and other hotmail addresses show "Queued mail for delivery -> 250 2.1.5" response in their delivery history.

Response code 250 indicates successful delivery. Your member may need to look in his spam folder or other folder he might filter email into. If he can't find the email, he needs to talk to Hotmail. It's not a GIO problem.

Jim H


Re: transfers from yahoo groups - expected time to completion? #yahoo #transfer

 

Art,

My status here is that my invite to "transfer@... " (twice) has
never been responded to.
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Should I start over again??
That depends on what the In Process page for your transfer says. If it says the invite has been received then you just need to wait for notice that the invitation has been accepted. Revisit the In Process page from time to time to check for any new status messages at the top.

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Re: transfers from yahoo groups - expected time to completion? #yahoo #transfer

 

Jim,

According to what you say here they system is not receiving the invite
from Yahoo.
That could be true. But you haven't answered my questions so I'd say that's just a possibility.

On the Start Transfer page, at the bottom is in bold letters is the
words In Progress. Nothing is in that little drop down box and never
has been over the two weeks I have been attempting to accomplish this
task.
Does clicking on it produce any response at all?

It should at least drop down an empty list (the top line of the list is always just that hyphen that you see when the drop-down is closed). If not maybe there's a problem with the browser you're using. That would be a bug to report to [email protected], but first you should try another browser to be sure.

If it drops down a list containing only that hyphen that certainly indicates a problem with getting your transfer "into the system". So far as I know your Y!Group address should appear in the In Process list as soon as you click the "Start Group Transfer Process" button below the checkboxes, before you've even sent the invitation.

I have been to the help page, been to this group and read everything I
could find and it has been without success. Oh well I guess it was not
meant to be.
Have you contacted [email protected] ? Ultimately that's the place to report bugs with the system.

Shal


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Re: Hotmail delivery

 

Duane,

Queued mail for delivery

Those errors ...
As mentioned to Drew and Frances, those responses are not errors.

It shouldn't keep the emails from eventually being delivered,
In fact, it is almost a statement that the message will be delivered (diversion to Spam or another folder is also considered delivery).

though no one can be sure how long the delay is,
Microseconds to minutes is the range you should expect. Programmers often use queues to organize things; it doesn't necessarily imply a perceptible delay from a human's point of view.

and there's nothing GIO can do about it.
Not about those particular response codes, but there could be other issues going on with delivery to Microsoft-powered services. That's happened in the past and could require GIO's intervention to straighten out.

Shal


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Re: Hotmail delivery

 

Frances,

MSN as well. Same Outlook error.
As I mentioned to Drew, 2xy is not an error - it is a success response.

Error response are 4xy ("try again later") and 5xy ("Don't try again").

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Re: Hotmail delivery

 

Drew,

His and other hotmail addresses show
"Queued mail for delivery -> 250 2.1.5"
response in their delivery history.
Status codes 2xy are success codes. You should read "Queued mail for delivery" as meaning "I got it".

Is there an ongoing problem with delivery to hotmail? We have a
complaint from a Hotmail subscriber who has received no group email
for a week.
Deliverability to Microsoft-powered email services has been spotty or worse in the past, so I wouldn't be too surprised if there's another episode afoot.

Or it could just be that the member isn't checking his/her spam folder.

Shal


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Re: Am I missing how to do this? i.e. I Need new member requests to explain why they are qualified to be approved #addmembers

 

360,
(interesting name - perhaps you could set a display name in your GMF group profile...)
There is no way to "require" that a request to join include certain information.? This has been discussed in the beta forum ->?
A "Pending Subscription" notice is sent when someone applies to join and you can put your request to email certain info in there.
Thanks
Toby


Re: transfers from yahoo groups - expected time to completion? #yahoo #transfer

 

My status here is that my invite to "transfer@... " (twice) has never been responded to.
My invite occurred when the transfer person was on vacation.
Should I start over again??
Thanks
Art


Re: Hotmail delivery

 

On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 10:35 AM, Frances wrote:
Queued mail for delivery

Those errors seem to be quite common for all the Microsoft domains used for email.? It shouldn't keep the emails from eventually being delivered, though no one can be sure how long the delay is, and there's nothing GIO can do about it.

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