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Re: how to allow moderators to apply a tag to a message? #hashtags

 

Go to the topic, select More below a message, and choose Edit Topic.? On the Edit page, just add the hashtag to the subject line, but be sure to leave a space on either side of it (none needed on the right if at the end of a line.)

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Re: When replying to messages in this group

 

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I?know how to read from the messages.
But I thought these were email groups and not forums or archive groups.
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I too prefer reading messages from my inbox as that is what I am accustomed to doing? in email groups.
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Date: 7/3/2018 1:32:23 PM
Subject: Re: [GMF] When replying to messages in this group
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On 7/3/2018 09:35, magicalkingdomgroups@... wrote:
What is reading online? Is that from the message section of the group?
I am used to reading emails.
Ilene?

Yes, that's what that means.? If you click on the View/Reply link at the bottom of GIO email, it will take you to the message.? Click reply and a editor box appears for you to type your reply in.

I personally find using the web interface clunky, not because of anything about the editor, but rather that I prefer to have all of my email come to one inbox: to have only one place (i.e., my mail user agent, Thunderbird) to check and one place to reply from.? When my new messages in my inbox are cleared, I know they are cleared for all groups and such I belong to.? Responding to group email isn't then any different for me than responding to any other email, or for that matter, email from other lists like Google groups, GNU Mailman listservs and so on.

Others are likely to have different preferences.

Best,

Glenn

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Re: When replying to messages in this group

 

On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 12:22 pm, Patty Fletcher wrote:
Does it not help if a person¡¯s settings are set to show the poster¡¯s original message?

That would only work in an email client.? When replying online, there's no such setting, so each person replying has to make the decision of whether there will be any previous information included.

As an example, I highlighted your line above, then clicked on Reply so it was automatically included.? If I had just hit Reply, nothing would have been included, but I could click on "Quote Whole Post" (the speech balloon) to get it all included, then edit out anything I didn't want or intersperse my answers.

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how to allow moderators to apply a tag to a message? #hashtags

Dan Hartford
 

Hi,

In a subgroup, where we don't require posts to have tags, and also restrict creating new tags to moderators, I'm having trouble figuring out how to allow a moderator to apply a tag (i.e. edit topic) on posts created by other people.??

Thanks -- Dan


Re: When replying to messages in this group

Patty Fletcher
 

I¡¯m swimming in posts.

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Does it not help if a person¡¯s settings are set to show the poster¡¯s original message?

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of magicalkingdomgroups@...
Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 1:14 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] When replying to messages in this group

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Yes something like that. Or the way I just did it now when I replied.

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Re: When replying to messages in this group

 

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Yes something like that. Or the way I just did it now when I replied.
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Date: 7/3/2018 11:49:23 AM
Subject: Re: [GMF] When replying to messages in this group
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On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 09:11 am, magicalkingdomgroups@... wrote:
Is there a way to include the question or previous email when a reply is given in this group?so we know what your answer is referring to?
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You mean like this?

Yes, but not everybody does it, and there is no way to force them to. My experience suggests that no amount of cajoling will get people to do what I want, even in my own groups.

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When we see your answers, all is good, but sometimes I cannot figure out what the original question was the reply is for.
Whenever I run into this problem, I just click the "View/Reply Online" link in the footer, then click on the "View all XX messages in this thread" link at the bottom of the resulting page. Another option is to change to a Digest mode for your mail delivery, in which messages will be threaded.

Not a substitute for conscientious use of quoting, but opinions on what "conscientious" means vary widely.?

Hope this helps,
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Re: When replying to messages in this group

Glenn Glazer
 

On 7/3/2018 09:35, magicalkingdomgroups@... wrote:
What is reading online? Is that from the message section of the group?
I am used to reading emails.
Ilene?

Yes, that's what that means.? If you click on the View/Reply link at the bottom of GIO email, it will take you to the message.? Click reply and a editor box appears for you to type your reply in.

I personally find using the web interface clunky, not because of anything about the editor, but rather that I prefer to have all of my email come to one inbox: to have only one place (i.e., my mail user agent, Thunderbird) to check and one place to reply from.? When my new messages in my inbox are cleared, I know they are cleared for all groups and such I belong to.? Responding to group email isn't then any different for me than responding to any other email, or for that matter, email from other lists like Google groups, GNU Mailman listservs and so on.

Others are likely to have different preferences.

Best,

Glenn

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Re: When replying to messages in this group

 

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What is reading online? Is that from the message section of the group?
I am used to reading emails.
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From: Duane
Date: 7/3/2018 11:14:51 AM
Subject: Re: [GMF] When replying to messages in this group
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Many (most?) of us read online, so can see the entire thread.? Whether any information is quoted is up to the person making the reply.? I sometimes quote and sometimes don't, depending on how active the topic is.

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Re: When replying to messages in this group

 

On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 09:11 am, magicalkingdomgroups@... wrote:
Is there a way to include the question or previous email when a reply is given in this group?so we know what your answer is referring to?
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You mean like this?

Yes, but not everybody does it, and there is no way to force them to. My experience suggests that no amount of cajoling will get people to do what I want, even in my own groups.

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When we see your answers, all is good, but sometimes I cannot figure out what the original question was the reply is for.
Whenever I run into this problem, I just click the "View/Reply Online" link in the footer, then click on the "View all XX messages in this thread" link at the bottom of the resulting page. Another option is to change to a Digest mode for your mail delivery, in which messages will be threaded.

Not a substitute for conscientious use of quoting, but opinions on what "conscientious" means vary widely.?

Hope this helps,
Bruce?
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Re: When replying to messages in this group

 

Many (most?) of us read online, so can see the entire thread.? Whether any information is quoted is up to the person making the reply.? I sometimes quote and sometimes don't, depending on how active the topic is.

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When replying to messages in this group

 

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Is there a way to include the question or previous email when a reply is given in this group?so we know what your answer is referring to?
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When we see your answers, all is good, but sometimes I cannot figure out what the original question was the reply is for.
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Re: coping with high traffic

 

Deborah Armstrong wrote:
One member in particular sends out a constant stream of "I couldn't agree more" and "I was thinking of the same thing" type posts.
I suggest you ask that member / all members to note the use of the Like tab, and having noted it, actualoly use it rather than clog your group up with pointless traffic.

I knew I'd find it somewhere; this Dilbert cartoon identified this very problem over 20 years ago:

Chris


Re: Members Unable to Post to Group

 

Leslie,
Let's back up a bit.? You said "her email to our group bounced" which sounds like she got an error message when she tried to send a post or reply?to groups.io.? To help, we need to know what error message that user got from?her email service.
The "most recent unsuccessful attempt" is a record of last time there was a failure when groups.io sent an email?to the subscriber.? When was the "most recent successful delivery" to this user?? If successful deliveries are reported after the most recent unsuccessful attempt, then she is receiving email from groups.io.? (meaning whatever caused the earlier failure is no longer blocking email)
Thanks
Toby


Re: Automatic Unsubscribes?

 

So, I have a question about that auto reinstatement email that gets sent to someone who was auto unsubscribed for marking a groups.io email as Spam (or, their ISP did that for them, unknowingly):? Would not that auto reinstatement email now end up in that person's Spam folder since they have marked the group's email address as Spam?? Should we as list mods, warn unsubbed list members to also look in their Spam/Junk folder for that auto reinstatment email, because it's probably not going to end up in their Inbox?? And, it sure would be nice if Groups.io had the ability to "group email" all auto unsubbed list members, to let them know they were auto unsubbed due to marking the list's email as Spam, and here's the link to be reinstated.? I already have two pages of auto-unsubbed list members since transferring over, about 3 weeks ago :-(? Again, due to the make up my list members, not being the most computer savvy bunch.
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Re: Finally setting up my new groups, and have a few questions

 

1)? The best for you to start would be /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/home.

2)? I don't believe a regular member has the archive download option since it's on the Settings page, only moderators with the proper permissions or owners that can get to that page can do it.

3)? Yes, once a group is made private, it can't be made public later.? Everything else is open to change.

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Re: Virus Detection?

 

That's a question you should probably ask [email protected].? I suspect there's some protection, but not sure what it would be.

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Re: Members Unable to Post to Group

 

Those are responses from their service when a message was sent to them from groups.io.? Maybe they could forward the bounce notice they got to see what the error was.

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Re: coping with high traffic

 

I have noticed that groups evolve. The first year or two is the hardest, especially when a number of participants have not experienced participation an effective email group. When a group starts, unless a core of members are old hands, the group doesn't know how to conduct itself, what leads to a good experience, what is not so good. And groups vary. Styles that work great in one group can be terrible in others. Sometime brash, rough posts are fun, but often they are not. It depends on the group. Each group has to find their own style and members have to discover their roles. The process is often a pleasure and equally often a pain. Folks will drop out, flames may erupt, feelings maybe unintentionally or even intentionally be hurt. It's like the evolution of any group of friends or colleagues.

Here are a few suggestions that I have seen work:
  • As owner or moderator, you can set the tone. Post often in the way you would like to see others post.
  • Good examples work better in the long run than scolds.
  • If you see someone being inconsiderate or offensive, let them know off line, outside the forum. Keep the dirty linen in the laundry.
  • Realize that offenders may not know that they are offending and may be mortified to find out that they are. Give them a face-saving out, or a perfectly good member might leave.
  • If someone insists on trollish behavior after being told, cut them off for the good of the group. Give them slack, but don't let go of the rope.
  • I have mixed feelings about 'codes of conduct' and posted site rules. Sometimes they help, sometimes they can be stifling and put people off. I know I tend to like hairsplitting rules much more than most people and I have to edit myself.Consult your gut, then dial it back a little if you decide to post rules.

Just a few ideas, Marv


Re: Database access #bug

 

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I sent an email to support last night, and I got a reply this morning that it should be working now. I tried my large dbase, and it does work correctly again. That is a very fast response by support!

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Re: Pending Icon, But No Member is Pending

 

Will do, Shal.? I am betting it was probably my continual issue with my old Yahoo Group list members:? They were transferred using an older email, may have been on "No Mail", or whatever,didn't realize they were a list member, so they created a second ID with a newer email, and applied for membership to our groups.io group with that new ID. I'm betting that person ended up merging their two accounts prior to us being able to reject/accept this newer membership request.? The issue is slowly going away, as time passes, but will always be there for us, to some degree.

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