On 30 Jun 2018 at 15:27, Shal Farley wrote:

Hi all,

This week's change log:



Feel free to reply to this topic if you'd like to comment on the
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> NEW: Added DD.MM.YYYY date format preference.
> NEW: Group default subscription preferences for date and time display.

Yay, so now there are three unambiguous date formats. That is, you can
always tell which you're looking at by the punctuation:
DD.MM.YYYY
MM/DD/YYYY
YYYY-MM-DD (ISO-8601)

That's fine for those of us "in the know" but that punctuation is not a
standard outside Groups.io, so for new users the first two remain ambiguous.
Use of alpha month for those two would resolve it.

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Moderators and poll creators might not want to not reveal results which do not support an action that would be taken.

On Sat, Jun 30, 2018 at 11:09 pm, <dgrass1@...> wrote:

Can anyone explain to me why a poll would be made where the members could not see the results of their participation?

?It might be used as a "straw poll" or non-binding vote.? I've thought about using something like this to get an idea of whether group members would be interested in certain things.? One reason I'd do it this way is because many times folks just vote for the most popular answer without really thinking about the question.? I think not having the results available would be more indicative of true feelings on some groups.

I'm not sure if it would work, but I'd also consider making the results available (turning off this setting) once the poll was ready to be closed for most items.

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?Thanks.......... I understand now. ? I guess I will go through the database and put spaces in between?each word of a group's name. That would make the search work. ? Many have written their group's name without spaces because that is how it appears as their groups name in IO. ? ? I can see how it would be a low priority. Thanks for suggesting it in Beta. ? Ilene ? ? ? ? ?

On Sun, Jul 1, 2018 at 06:42 am, magicalkingdomgroups@... wrote:

When I went to search to see if a particular group was listed in one of my databases and I plugged in a partial part of the group's name for instance Flying, nothing came up.

Correct. It's a word search, not a string search.

See the wiki entry at?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Using-the-Search-Engine? It's written for searching the message archive, but I believe the same engine is being used site-wide. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong on that.

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No, search can't do partial searches.? The search term must be a complete "word" that's totally separate from other words.? If you search for Fly and the entry is FlyGuy, it won't find it.? If the entry were Fly Guy, it would.? In neither case would it find 'uy'.? I've asked for this on the beta group, but it's a low priority, so may not be implemented any time soon.? (One of my groups has a db with part numbers and finding a partial number would be a big help.)? For now, you might be better off editing the db to add spaces where appropriate.

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When I went to search to see if a particular group was listed in one of my databases and I plugged in a partial part of the group's name for instance Flying, nothing came up. When I plugged in the complete group name but?it wasn't exactly as it was listed in the database, I still got nothing.?Only when I typed in the search field the name of the group without spaces as it was put into the database I got what?I was looking for.?? ? In Y groups you could plug in Fly....Flying...etc and the group would come up. ?If I did that in IO groups I would get nothing. I needed to plug in the entire group name as it was placed in the database in order for the record to come up. With 100's of groups listed in the database, it is time consuming to look down the list for what?I need. ? Is there a setting that can be changed to have partial names come up? ? Thanks, Ilene ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ?

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NEW: Polls have a new option to never show results to members.

Can anyone explain to me why a poll would be made where the members could not see the results of their participation?

Don

On Sat, Jun 30, 2018 at 03:27 pm, Shal Farley wrote:

Has anyone here used that feature, and care to describe it? Either in a message or better yet, update the Help page mock-up.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Help-Mock-up

I thought the "lock group" thing was peculiar when it first came up in beta -- a search of the message archive failed to turn up any request for the feature.?Then I discovered a button at the bottom of the Settings page; and when I clicked on it, a "verify lock" dialog box came up saying:

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?"Lock this group? Locking the group prevents any changes to the group, including messages, files, photos and databases."

That seems pretty self-explanatory.

I can only think of a couple of reasons why someone would want to do this....

-- to temporarily suspend activity while a backup is underway, or
-- as a prelude to shutting down the group (i.e.: using the Member Notice as a way of reminding the stragglers).

Hope this helps,
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Hi all,

This week's change log:



Feel free to reply to this topic if you'd like to comment on the
changes. Or better yet, if you expect a lot of discussion start a new
topic (or rejoin an existing one) about a specific change.

NEW: Added DD.MM.YYYY date format preference.
NEW: Group default subscription preferences for date and time display.

Yay, so now there are three unambiguous date formats. That is, you can always tell which you're looking at by the punctuation:
DD.MM.YYYY
MM/DD/YYYY
YYYY-MM-DD (ISO-8601)

NEW: Locked Group member notice.

The Help page needs a paragraph for this one. The text under the notice type when you create one isn't too informative: "Message returned when someone emails the group when it is locked."

It apparently relates to this:

NEW: For premium groups, you can now lock groups/subgroups, making
them read-only.

Has anyone here used that feature, and care to describe it? Either in a message or better yet, update the Help page mock-up.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Help-Mock-up

BUGFIX: Changed references to 'sub' to 'member' in the activity log to
make things consistent. Changed several of the message actions to be
more clear.

That's one of my pet peeves, having the text of the filter items in the drop-list differ from the actual text of the log entries. However, this didn't move in the direction of consistent use of subscriber versus member.
/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/22678734

CHANGE: When clicking the Subgroups tab while in a subgroup, don't
redirect to the parent group first.

Hmm... I'd been using that as the short way to get back to the primary group. I'll have to find another route.

CHANGE: Changed how we did code highlighting, now using the Google
code prettify JS instead of directly using the CSS classes.

Right now this is only for Markdown users. Adding it to the HTML message/wiki editor has been on the todo list for a while.

And I still wish I could change editing format ad-hock, from a control on the composition toolbar or the like, rather than having to go into Account Preferences.


Comments about these others are also welcome:

NEW: Polls have a new option to never show results to members.
INTERNAL: Moved S3 group deletion operations into the s3server for
async and more reliable operation.
NEW: In the Edit File dialog, you can now replace the existing file
with a new file.
NEW: Premium/Enterprise groups can now create aliases for subgroups
(previously they could only create aliases for main/parent groups).
NEW: More anti-spammer work.
NEW: Premium/Enterprise groups now have a new Banned Domains tab.
Emails from non-subscribers are rejected from banned domains, as
well as registrations.
BUGFIX: For subgroups that are unlisted but with open archives, the
feed link wasn't included on the group home page. Also, the archive
description was incorrect.
INTERNAL: Upgraded TinyMCE editor to latest version.

Please call out any you find significant.

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Shal, I asked the other group owner and she reported she could not see anything related to the status of the transfer.
Joan

On Sat, Jun 30, 2018 at 05:06 am, dash wrote:

I did all the steps. Got confirmation of being done.? Still no transfers on groups. Waiting since April 11.? dash

Dash -- To to the transfer page at?/yahootransfer

At the bottom right of the page is an in-process box. Click in it and select one of your groups.

You should have status information here for each transfer that is pending. Best option is to send us a screenshot.

There is no way you should still be waiting after 2-1/2 months. A step must have been skipped. You have posted this comment several times without any follow-up. Until you actually act on our recommendations we will be unable to help you.

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Unless the individual hashtag has the "Use by Mods Only" option set, members should be able to use them.

I'm not aware of any way, except editing the subject line, to remove the hashtag.

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Hi Dano & Thanx for the reply.

I haven't had that problem since early on I did set Hashtags so that only moderators can create them, although the membership apparently can use them.

So far however none of our members have tried using any. Maybe that setting doesn't actually allow them to use hashtags.

At this point though I am guessng that the Moderators will be the ones who will wind up removing any unneeded hashtags from wherever we applied them by editing them out of the Subject Line. I cannot se any other way.

Maybe someone else here on GMF will have a suggestion for how that I still have not thought of.

Fingers X-ed!

Paul m.
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Gentle GMF Members,

I know that I can do an edit of the Subject Line and delete
just the hashtag portion there to remove any of them from
a posted message.

But I was wondering whether there is another way to do
this which I am somehow overlooking.

TIA

Paul M.

Paul -
If your group is like mine, the odd hashtags were the result of people using the symbol to designate "number". I found that I had to change most of them in different ways depending on the original wording and usage, in order to make the subject line make sense. Most of the problems were because groups.io relocates hashtags to the end of the subject and so jumbles the meaning. On a couple of mine I had to go back to the Yahoo message to determine what the author was trying to say. Luckily I only had a dozen or so, but it still took a while, searching out the original messages.

Dano

Gentle GMF Members,

I know that I can do an edit of the Subject Line and delete just the hashtag portion there to remove any of them from a posted message.

But I was wondering whether there is another way to do this which I am somehow overlooking.

TIA

Paul M.
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Shal, thanks so much! it did say that my attention was needed, The other owner thought she had completed the process, but maybe not since I was the one who initiated the transfer.
We are anxious to get our other groups transferred.
I'll ask the other owner if she can see the status of the transfer.
Joan