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Re: Photo Ownership

 

Ken -
I understand your problems. Something quite similar was requested on beta a couple years ago. It is certainly needed in some groups, along with the ability to move and possibly resample or crop images. At that time there were much more pressing issues at hand that needed more immediate attention. See my comment at:
2016-01-22

Along with this I would like to be able to resample, crop, or possibly enhance some images and still have the original poster retain ownership on them. Another comment here:
2017-07-28

I think when a member leaves the group it makes sense for the ownership to be assigned to the group owner. However when the original poster is still a member it makes much more sense for the group owner to be able to reassign the files to the original poster.

I recognize some of the risks in this, and like a few other similar ownership privileges, perhaps this should be reserved for owners of Premium groups?

Dano

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Recently I transferred a list with 8,000 photos. Fortunately I had chosen an intermediate image size and all the photos transferred due to being re-sized and storage is below the 1GB limit.
However a large number are orphaned, photo ownership was transferred to the groups.io list owner because the original poster of the photos was no longer in the members directory. Evidently over the 19 years of the list many members had changed their e-mail accounts and YG had not transferred photo ownership.

At this time I can't see how to transfer the ownership of posted photos to the correct member. I can just delete these albums of several hundred photos and have the photo owner repost all of them.
Seems like the moderator should be able to just change ownership and avoid reposting a lot of images.
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ken clark
Re: 2 Questions

 

On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 08:01 pm, Bruce Bowman wrote:
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Thank you.

?Dave
Re: 2 Questions

 

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Re: Approval of new members #addmembers #membership

Mike Conder
 

I have an initial message that asks people the question, and all new members' first posts are moderated.? Not perfect but works for me.? At least so far!

Mike Conder?
Re: 2 Questions

 

Correct. I get an error message then saying that the gmail address 'is already registered', and no alias is created on the Comcast membership.

Dave
Re: 2 Questions

 

David, to clarify - you deleted your Groups.io account associated with your Gmail address.
And then you went to Account (top right corner under your name) in your other Groups.io account and tried to add that Gmail address as an email alias.?Right??

Frances
2 Questions

 

So before I found where to insert an alias on my Grio account, I created a second account for myself using my gmail address, as my phone defaults to that when sending emails. Now, I want to eliminate 2 memberships for myself and use the second email as an alias instead. But when I try to do that, Grio won't let me as that second address 'is already registered'. I deleted my gmail membership in our group and deleted my gmail grio account. but it still won't let me use that address as an alias for the account I really want to use-- this Comcast address. What am I missing? Or is this not possible now that I have registered that gmail address?

And secondly, this doesn't have to do directly with Grio, but is sort of related to the first issue. It was brought to my attention that a certain member did not appear to be part of tne group any longer since we transferred. When I went back to Y!G to see if he was still a member there on transfer day, he wasn't. But the strange part is that he doesn't show up in the activity logs as leaving or being banned or forcibly removed.. looking back 3 years! Yet, he was a thorn in many other members' sides up until quite recently. Like Keyser Soze, it's like he never even existed. How did he do this?

Dave
Re: Photo Ownership

 

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I had the same situation with ownership, even with some current active members that came over in the transfer. I have notified our members several times about this ownership problem, but to date only one member has come forward to fix this. Since the member was not even listed as the owner of their own album, they couldn’t do anything with this album except view it. What I did was download all their pictures to my computer (Fortunately they only had eleven pictures), and attached the pictures to email I sent to the member. I only attached three pictures per email. After I did that I deleted the album and pictures, then the member made a new album and uploaded their pictures into it. Now the member has ownership of the album and pictures, and all is well again with this one member. Another way which I’ll try the next time is have the member open the pictures for viewing, then have them right click on the picture to bring up the Save Image As or Copy Image option on their computer. After they get all the pictures they want, I’ll delete the album and pictures. Then, they can make a new album to upload their pictures into.

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Don

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of SP4149
Sent: Friday, March 9, 2018 1:33 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [GMF] Photo Ownership

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Recently I transferred a list with 8,000 photos.? Fortunately I had chosen an intermediate image size and all the photos transferred due to being re-sized and storage is below the 1GB limit.
However a large number are orphaned, photo ownership was transferred to the groups.io list owner because the original poster of the photos was no longer in the members directory.? Evidently over the 19 years of the list many members had changed their e-mail accounts and YG had not transferred photo ownership.

At this time I can't see how to transfer the ownership of posted photos to the correct member.? I can just delete these albums of several hundred photos and have the photo owner repost all of them.
Seems like the moderator should be able to just change ownership and avoid reposting a lot of images.
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ken clark

"It has always seemed strange to me," said Doc. "The things we admire in men, kindness and generosity, openness, honesty, understanding and feeling are the concomitants of failure in our system. And those traits we detest, sharpness, greed, acquisitiveness, meanness, egotism and self-interest are the traits of success."? Steinbeck - Cannery Row
Re: Member Mad that she got Unsubbed

 

But? actually, Yahoo did this to her.? Yahoo and two of their email customers ATT and Verizon are the worst? for this type of action.
They also have filters that "recognize" nasty words.? Our genetic disease is Fuchs'.? Not hard to imaging how yahoo sometimes freaks out with that.
She will just have to start checking her spam folder.
She would have received a special message from groups,.io that this was happening and that message has a magic autoenroll link that's active for 3 days after being unsubscribed.
That last is something no other service does.
Hopefully she will remember to check her spam folder after you reenroll her.


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Bob Bellizzi

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Re: Password Difficulties

 

Paul,

In my new IO group of 800 I have several reporting difficulties with setting their initial password. I don’t have details but their description was that “it didn’t take” and they had to repeat it several times.


There's a temptation to give them a similarly vague answer, like "Then do it correctly next time."
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Is there a bug or does it take hours/a-day sometimes to get it through? My dim memory is boof, it happened.


I'm suspecting pilot error.

Maybe the problem was that they were using the Sign Up form and didn't understand that it will send them an email message to confirm their address - if the confirmation email goes into their Spam folder, or they just don't see it, and as a result they don't confirm their address that might seem like setting the password "didn't take".

Another possibility is that they typod their own adress and didn't notice. So the confirmation was lost in the mail, and the password setting "didn't take".

Yet another possibility is that their email service greylisted (deferred) the confirmation - thus causing it to take much longer than normal to arrive.

Shal


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Password Difficulties

 

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In my new IO group of 800 I have several reporting difficulties with setting their initial password. I don’t have details but their description was that “it didn’t take” and they had to repeat it several times. Is there a bug or does it take hours/a-day sometimes to get it through? My dim memory is boof, it happened.

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Paul
Re: Member Mad that she got Unsubbed

 

Depending on her email domain, they certainly could automatically be vectoring group posts to the spam/junk file.? If she doesn't actively check that folder for valid messages that got put in there and mark it "not junk/not spam" - then the filter will continue to mark it thus, and as said below, once the automated system takes over, the user likely will never see it.? She can get mad all she wants, but in the end, it is she, not the system, that has the responsibility for making sure the posts from groups.io are marked as "safe" (or "whitelisted" or whatever terminology her anti-spam/anti-malware filter uses).

Bill HIckey
Boulder, CO
Photo Ownership

 

Recently I transferred a list with 8,000 photos.? Fortunately I had chosen an intermediate image size and all the photos transferred due to being re-sized and storage is below the 1GB limit.
However a large number are orphaned, photo ownership was transferred to the groups.io list owner because the original poster of the photos was no longer in the members directory.? Evidently over the 19 years of the list many members had changed their e-mail accounts and YG had not transferred photo ownership.

At this time I can't see how to transfer the ownership of posted photos to the correct member.? I can just delete these albums of several hundred photos and have the photo owner repost all of them.
Seems like the moderator should be able to just change ownership and avoid reposting a lot of images.
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ken clark

"It has always seemed strange to me," said Doc. "The things we admire in men, kindness and generosity, openness, honesty, understanding and feeling are the concomitants of failure in our system. And those traits we detest, sharpness, greed, acquisitiveness, meanness, egotism and self-interest are the traits of success."? Steinbeck - Cannery Row
Re: Approval of new members #addmembers #membership

J_Catlady
 

On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 11:40 am, ~mary~ wrote:
Will go look at activity log
The place to look is Settings, Spam Control.
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J
Re: Approval of new members #addmembers #membership

~mary~
 

Thanks!? Will go look at activity log. mary
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On Fri, Mar 9, 2018, at 10:41 AM, J_Catlady wrote:
If your group is Restricted, Groups.io is not admitting them into the group unless you or another moderator approves them. Your group is probably not se to Restricted. Having a Pending Subscription notice does not affect that setting. It's separate.
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Re: Approval of new members #addmembers #membership

 

On Friday, March 9, 2018, 12:37:23 PM EST, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
Groundhog Day. This is the number one question on GMF with all the new groups.io members, by my non-scientific survey. You can use a pending subscription notice (settings—> member notices—> create new notice —> choose type ‘pending subscription’) and put your questionnaire in it. They return it by email and their response goes to the lender address. But it can be wonky and be lost on either side. I’m constantly urging Mark on beta to implement at least a text box. You might want to add to my pleas ?there as well.
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I've never relied on the Yahoo text info, way to little. I've been sending a separate email to the prospective member requesting information prior to approval. I've had some bounce because the email was not in service, several others who don't reply.& a couple who are mad because I asked for more info.
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Probably saved myself several headaches by doing this, I will continue this practice here.
Paul, Ohio, USA

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Re: Approval of new members #addmembers #membership

J_Catlady
 

On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 11:00 am, Frances wrote:
Something in settings? Auto approve or moderator approve.
The setting is "Restricted." In a restricted group, all membership requests have to be approved. Otherwise people can join without approval. It is very simple.
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J
Re: Approval of new members #addmembers #membership

J_Catlady
 

On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 10:25 am, ~mary~ wrote:
Groups.io admits them into the group without me seeing any emails....?
If your group is Restricted, Groups.io is not admitting them into the group unless you or another moderator approves them. Your group is probably not se to Restricted. Having a Pending Subscription notice does not affect that setting. It's separate.
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J
Re: Approval of new members #addmembers #membership

 

Shouldn’t owner / moderator approving a member be an option for the group? Something in settings? Auto approve or moderator approve.
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Frankly, I have followed this discussion many a time and it perplexes me!
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Frances

On Mar 9 18, at 1:22 PM, ~mary~ <whodatgurl@...> wrote:

I have a "Pending Message" set up for prospective new members to write to me Before they join, but admits them into the group without me seeing any emails....? ??? I don't know what else to do.
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Re: Approval of new members #addmembers #membership

~mary~
 

I have a "Pending Message" set up for prospective new members to write to me Before they join, but Groups.io admits them into the group without me seeing any emails....? ??? I don't know what else to do.
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On Fri, Mar 9, 2018, at 9:32 AM, J_Catlady wrote:
Groundhog Day. This is the number one question on GMF with all the new members, by my non-scientific survey. You can use a pending subscription notice (settings—> member notices—> create new notice —> choose type ‘pending subscription’) and put your questionnaire in it. They return it by email and their response goes to the lender address. But it can be wonky and be lost on either side. I’m constantly urging Mark on beta to implement at least a text box. You might want to add to my pleas ?there as well.
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