Dear forum members,

We’re an international group (US/Australia/New Zealand/South Africa/Germany/Belgium/The Netherlands) that is set up to create tags from tutorials and challenges. We send them to the group as .jpg, .png or animated gifs, with or without a html-script. Our group language is English.
With some of our members we are currently testing our creations at io-groups whilst maintaining our core group at Yahoo. Some of the creations are sent to both groups to compare.

We’ve encountered a couple of problems that I would like to tell you about here.
First of all: I’m the group moderator, from the Netherlands and English is not my mother tongue so bear with me.

Our observations:
Firstly: We managed to more or less tackle the placement of the io-groups links to suit the needs of our group, so that problem I wrote about two weeks ago is solved (more or less).

However the test group does not receive the creations the way they were sent off.
Some of the creations are being sent to both the old YG *and* to our group at io.
* Animated gifs don’t work properly.
* Images are scaled down to a degree that the sender’s original creation is badly visible (colours are ‘muted’)
* In some of the e-mails received the images do not show up at all and only x-es are shown.
The funny thing being that some of the testing members receive the script perfectly well at e.g. 637 kb and other members receive the same mail at 9 kb (just the text and html).

Our posting limits are set to 1mb per e-mail.
We have sent original creations back and forth in e-mail as attached .zips to view the way they were intended (scaled down, of course) to compare those with the way we receive them in our inboxes.
We have compared operating systems, e-mail clients and geographical locations to see if they make a difference.

In order not to affect our core group members’ creativity or the quality of their creative output we will continue testing a bit more before we take the plunge.
We still consider to join io-groups as the rest of your performance is wonderful –but I cannot ask our members to join yet...

We would love to have these problems out of the way.
Do you have any suggestions that may help?
Maybe I can change something at the group’s settings I’m not aware of as yet?
I can provide zipped examples to the group owners if necessary -I noticed previous attachments were stripped to this group.

Thank you very much in advance for your input!

Karin de Jong
Creative Script and Tag Friends
[email protected]

Sara,

Gmail is marking the emails I send to my group at the new location as
"possibly spoofed." Is there any way to prevent this, or is it a gmail
issue?

It is a Gmail issue.

It is possible that if you dismiss that marking a few times (assuming there's a way to do that) that it will calm down after a while. I've been using Gmail with my groups here for some time and it isn't giving me such a warning. It has been too long, I don't recall if it ever did.

Technically the marking is correct: your messages coming back from your Groups.io group have your From address, but they didn't come (directly) from your account - an outside server (Groups.io) delivered the message. I am a little surprised though, I thought Gmail "understood" this behavior of mailing lists.

Shal


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Kevin,

I have a member who applied for membership, so I tried to reply by
email to approve but the email bounced back.

I take it your received a "Subscription Approval Needed" email that you replied to. What error message did the bounce back contain?

It is possible for a member who applies via web to open their Subscription Options and Unsubscribe (withdraw their request) before you reply. If he/she did the error response would be:

500 That subscription no longer exists. Most likely the person decided
to unsubscribe.

However the Activity log should then say the member "left via web", sometime after the entry showing his/her application. Too, you would have received a "Subscriber has left" notification, if you have elected to receive such.

Meanwhile in the "Activity" log reads correctly
"johnsmith@... for membership"

Does it say "via web"? or "via email"?

So how can approve something I can't see?

The real question is whether there was still an pending membership to approve. The error response to your attempted approval by email suggests that was no longer the case.

Shal


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Thanks, Don.
Stan

The transfer process 'copies' the information from YG to Groups.io, and
nothing is lost at the YG. The only thing that is not transferred are
Attachments.

Don

Shal,

Thanks for taking the time on this mystery. A good mystery puts a little spice into the mix though huh.

Don

I didn't ask my groups if they wanted to move to another site or not, it was
a management decision on my part to move, because I was the main person
keeping it all together. I have not had a single complaint with the move,
and plenty of compliments for the fast action of getting us out of Y. While
the archive search engine on Y is more flexible, I don't think it is as good
as it was before the Neo upgrade. While most anything can be improved to
some degree, I'm pleased with the Groups.io search capabilities for now.

Don

"Historically this has a precedent in Yahoo Groups as well. For many years four user-to-user help groups, EmailList-Managers, ListHelp, GroupManagersForum, and Yahoo_group_of_groups were listed in Yahoo's help pages as alternate places for help."

I took over a Y group around 10 years ago (My, how time passes), and periodically I used whatever help I could find on Y. I have to say though, the help on Groups.io GMF is far superior to anything I experienced on Y.

Don

Loopy,

Where are the attachments stored because I don't need those either.

You access/delete them through the messages they came in with.

Except photos, those can be seen in the Emailed Photos album. But not deleted from there, I'm not sure why.

Shal


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The Directory may or may not have people listed, depending on their Profile choices.? You should be looking at Admin > Members > Pending Members.

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On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 06:47 pm, Shal Farley wrote:

Have you cc'd the Group_Help+Owner address on this?

Shal,

I never would have brought it up in this forum if (a) I had not mentioned it to Marlin several times in the past with no result (just refusal), and (b) the group was brought up publicly here.

It seems that he has finally removed the offending sentence. Thank you, Marlin.

As for Stan's comment that it wasn't intentional: it never is.

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On 2/18/2018 8:39 PM, J_Catlady wrote:

Walter,
Much better! But you'd really want to take a whack at the entire group discussion. This was just the most egregious section...

What else is wrong with it?


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J,

Here's your improvement, absolutely free of charge:

/It is intended that any member who has an answer or comment will
voice their response. Rather than having any one authority source,
this is intended as more of a discussion group than some of the other
help groups./

"Your"? Have you cc'd the Group_Help+Owner address on this?

I'd suggest posting in the group, but there's a chicken-and-egg problem with that, I guess.

Shal


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There's not a way that I'm aware of.? It can (and does) get a bit confusing if you start looking for one of the messages that has appeared, but has been deleted.? I've thought about asking for a way to delete some items, but then realized that wouldn't be a good idea.? The activity log should really be a log of all activity..

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