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Re: banning a member from ever joining a groups.io list

 

Hi,
? My question is related to this - but not "spot on".

? What happens to Banned Members of a yahoo group during the transfer?
Do they get transferred over and stay banned?? Do they just get dropped
(not transferred)?
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Users having trouble deleting messages

 

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I'm in the process of moving a group over from Yahoo.? I've got three people complaining that they can't delete messages after they've read them like they could on Yahoo.? They all believe the delete message thing was a Yahoo feature (a button) that they don't have here and they're accumulating all kinds of messages that they can't delete.?? Their emails are associated with three different providers (Yahoo, AOL and Verizon) and I know at least two of them use tablets/phones and one an old fashioned computer.? I'm having problems understanding their problems as I never noticed a "delete" button on the messages from Yahoo and I believe this was an email client function.? ?

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I've sent each of them a message asking what email clients they're using and I've asked them to delete the message from me, tell me how they did it, and then try doing exactly the same thing on a groups.io message the same way and tell me what's different about the process if it doesn't work.?

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I'd write this off as people just not being very computer literate but with three people in the same boat, I'm wondering if there is something going on.? Has anyone else run into this with their formerly-of-Yahoo user base??

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Janet
Re: [email protected] Message Received By Non-Owner of Yapoo

 

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Sorry, Duane, "moderators that receive owner messages"?? I can't see any settings on Yapoo that set that particular aspect.? Can you point out where it is, please?

Thanks.


Tim

On 26/01/18 14:20, Duane wrote:

I believe the message is sent to group-owner@..., so it would have also gone to moderators that receive owner messages.? It went to them on the other group, but there may not have been any moderators set to receive those.

Duane

Re: [email protected] Message Received By Non-Owner of Yapoo

 

I believe the message is sent to group-owner@..., so it would have also gone to moderators that receive owner messages.? It went to them on the other group, but there may not have been any moderators set to receive those.

Duane
[email protected] Message Received By Non-Owner of Yapoo

 

This standard message, that the process instructions say just goes to the YG Owner (me) seems to have gone out to Moderators as well.? As you can imagine in a group with 10 Moderators, most of which are not involved in the transfer, this has caused some chaos.

Have I misread what was supposed to happen?

(This relates to the second group I've helped transfer this month, and it didn't happen for the first one as far as I know).

Thanks.
Re: Is The Subscription Link Editable?

 

Mark,

Because joining this group requires that the prospective
subscriber/member meets certain eligibility requirements is it
possible to edit that page to add a couple of qualifiers ...
No, but it has been proposed a few different ways in beta@.

It isn't quite the same thing, but in the Member Notices tab of your Group's settings you can create a "Pending Subscription" notice. This will be emailed to the prospect when they click the button or use the email +subscribe command.

The notice will go to the member From the group's +owner address, so make sure at least one moderator has enabled the receipt of owner messages from non-members.

Shal
Re: Data protection

 

Jim,

... and someone being transferred automatically from Yahoo groups or
elsewhere. The latter could possibly be problematic under GDPR, and
may lead Yahoo to prevent it to protect themselves.
It isn't clear how they would prevent it. Short of removing the Manage Members list as a feature.

... but I think the main problem would be theirs for passing on
personal details without prior permission.
While the law might consider Groups.io's transfer agent a "third party" in a way that is distinct from the group moderators (who may also be considered third parties), as a practical matter it is the role of moderator that gives the transfer agent access to the information.

So it would seem a bit odd to hold Yahoo accountable for the transfer of information, even though their systems gave up the info, because those systems were operating under (what would appear to Yahoo as) proper authorization.

Shal
Re: Question about Member Notices - Note to Member

 

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Would I maybe use this to be sent to a list if ?I maybe need to ?warn them of something let's ?say to say any more actions like the ones by our members and?this list will be in moderation??This way I would not hav to write this over and over and over again if that's the case?

On Jan 25, 2018, at 5:08 PM, Lily Yapp <lily.yapp@...> wrote:

Thanks Toby and Duane for your replies. I now get how to set it up and what it's for! I couldn't find anything about it in the Help pages.

Lily

Re: Question about Member Notices - Note to Member

 

Thanks Toby and Duane for your replies. I now get how to set it up and what it's for! I couldn't find anything about it in the Help pages.

Lily
Re: question how to set up

 

thanks. Will check that out. I did see the welcome and goodbye under member notices. I just want the member to get this not the whole group?

Thanks

Anita
Re: Transfer of files from YahooGroups

 

It should, provided Y! is working and it won't overfill your storage.

Duane
Re: question how to set up

 

You'll need to set up some Member Notices on the Settings page.? In your case, you'll want at least one for Welcome and one for Goodbye.? You can have multiple of each type and choose which one to make active as the default.

Duane
Re: question how to set up

 

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There's been a thread on this very topic this week. You may want to go back and re-read that thread since it has a lot of helpful information.

Basically, Admin > Settings > Member Notices?

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*Julesy*

Mystery Lovers Book Club

On 1/25/2018 5:47 PM, atinalee@... via Groups.Io wrote:

I want to have a welcome letter that automatically goes to a new member and another letter when someone leaves the group.

How do I set that up here?

Thanks

Anita

Transfer of files from YahooGroups

 

In then Files section of my YahooGroup we use a lot of folders and some have a hierarchical structure with a root level and sub levels. Provided Yahoo works properly is it possible for the automatic transfer process to transfer all the files in such a structure?

Margaret Parker
Leeds, UK
question how to set up

 

I want to have a welcome letter that automatically goes to a new member and another letter when someone leaves the group.

How do I set that up here?

Thanks

Anita
Re: Set to no emails from members in Yahoo Groups?

 

Ken,
Thank you, for that suggestion, that will work for our group.

Frances,
that looks great, thanks for sharing!

Tiffany
Re: Data protection

 

I think there's a significant difference here between someone joining groups.io
direct and giving their own information, and someone being transferred
automatically from Yahoo groups or elsewhere. The latter could possibly be
problematic under GDPR, and may lead Yahoo to prevent it to protect themselves.
I'll check the wording when I get a few minutes (I've got a PDF copy, but it's
a big document), but I think the main problem would be theirs for passing on
personal details without prior permission.

Jim

On 25 Jan 2018 at 14:29, Dave Sergeant wrote:

Ah, the dreaded GDPR. I assume that Mark, like Yahoogroups, Google and
everybody else in or out of Europe will store our data under the
provisions of GDPR. And presumably some statement in the terms and
conditions to state that they do.

The implications of GDPR for small clubs and societies is still not
that clear, even though May is not long to go (and I could mean May as
in our PM..). Consent may mean just a box on the join form that one has
to tick ('I have read the terms and conditions') or it may demand
something else like an email reply. Who knows, I suspect life will
carry on just as it has done since the computer was invented.

Dave

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Re: How To Set User Name?

Mark Bielecki
 

That one wasn't going to be found without help.? Thanks so much for your help, Shal!??
Re: Do messages count

 

Thank you everyone for your replies. Helped ease my mind ALOT!

:) Febe
Is The Subscription Link Editable?

Mark Bielecki
 

My second question for the day about my new group:

The group is publicly listed by requires moderator approval to join.

When a prospective subscriber/member clicks on the?"+ Apply For Membership In This Group" link the subscription page that pops up requests the prospective member's email address (see below).

Because joining this group requires that the prospective subscriber/member meets certain eligibility requirements is it possible to edit that page to add a couple of qualifiers (such as "Are you a member of the XYZ profession or industry" or "Who referred you to this group") so as to reduce the necessity of multiple back and forth emails for prospective subscribers/members whose email addresses we don't recognize as belonging to somebody who meets the subscriber/membership criteria?

Thanks in advance for your help!

Best,

Mark Bielecki

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