Re: Are comments in the Subscribe email not passed to owner?

#2236

Thanks. I suppose that will work but if there are multiple pending subscribers it will be very inconvenient to try and match up the submitted info with the individual pending subscribers. At least, I don't see anywhere (either in email to owner or on the admin page) where the required info from the pending subscriber is displayed alongside a button or link for the owner to "Approve" them.

My suggestion is to quote any comments made in the pending subscriber's Subscribe email and pass these to the owner in the "Subscription Approval Needed" email. It is then a simple matter for the owner to see the subscriber info/comment and hit "reply" to approve. (This may be one of the few things that Yahoo Groups got right...)

Drew

Re: Are comments in the Subscribe email not passed to owner?

J_Catlady

#2235

No, no content from the subscribe email goes to anyone.?

If you want content from a pending member in order to approve their membership, or just to have on file, you need to create a Pending Member notice (see Settings --> Member Notices), which goes out automatically when someone requests membership in your group. You can use it to ask questions. If the pending member responds to the email, the response becomes a record in their "+owner messages" page.?

Two caveats: (1) you can only do this if your group is "restricted" (membership requires approval), and (2) in my group, the pending member notice goes into a black hole about 1 time in 5 or 10 (it's not even in their spam folder) and I have to contact the member via a personal email anyway.

J

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On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 4:09 AM, Drew AF2Z <pubx1@...> wrote:

It seems that when someone includes comments in their Subscribe email these comments are not passed to the owner. Is this the case? Or have I missed something. We would like to require new subscribers to include comments/info as part of the approval process. Ideally these would be passed to the owner in the "Subscription Approval Needed" email to the owner.

Drew

Are comments in the Subscribe email not passed to owner?

#2234

It seems that when someone includes comments in their Subscribe email these comments are not passed to the owner. Is this the case? Or have I missed something. We would like to require new subscribers to include comments/info as part of the approval process. Ideally these would be passed to the owner in the "Subscription Approval Needed" email to the owner.

Drew

Re: Picture not appearing

#2233

Shal -
Could this be caused by different members having different size limits for attachments they will accept in messages? It seems like someone with 'unlimited' might well get a message while someone with a limit of 100 Kb would get a link. Not knowing the size of the attachment or the personal limits each member has set, this is only a supposition.

Dano

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----- Original Message -----
Noel,

Looking at the source of the emails, the faulty one has the picture
as
src="/g/ngauge/draftattachment/442690/0/DSC_3238.JPG"The https: there means that the image is not contained in the message - 
the receiving system must go fetch it from the named web site.

While for a previous post that did work it is:
src="cid:[email protected]"The cid: there means that the image is contained in an attachment to the 
message. Further down in that view source you'll encounter a (possibly 
large) block of encoded data which is the image file itself, likely 
base64 encoded, and delimited by that marker you see after "cid:"

So the claim "done in exactly the same way" is cast in some doubt.

Oddly he says he can see the picture fine in the posting he received,
but nobody else can.That could be explained if he is a member of the "ngauge" group and the 
rest of you aren't. Or may be explained by the "draftattachment" part of 
the URL, implying that the image is in a part of the site (his draft 
messages) that only he can access.

Is it a bug ?Maybe.

You didn't say whether he composes his messages using the group's site 
or via his email user interface.

The "draftattachment" part of the URL suggests to me that he composed 
the message on the group's site. If that is the case then I'm not sure 
how or why the site would choose to reference the image file remotely 
(https) rather than include it as a message attachment (cid). Possibly 
that is a bug with the Draft mechanism in Groups.io.

If he composed the message in question using an email interface, then he 
may have inadvertently done a drag-n-drop from the image in a Draft he 
was composing for the ngauge group, and then failed to override the 
email interface's default of using https for images dropped from web 
sites. In this case the difference between this message and his others 
could be simply that this time the image he used wasn't on his computer, 
but in Groups.io's servers.

Shal

Re: Picture not appearing

#2232

> That could be explained if he is a member of the "ngauge" group and the rest of you aren't

No, not that, we are all members.

I'm meeting him this afternoon so I'll try and find exactly what he did.

Noel

Re: Picture not appearing

#2231

Noel,

Looking at the source of the emails, the faulty one has the picture
as
src="/g/ngauge/draftattachment/442690/0/DSC_3238.JPG"The https: there means that the image is not contained in the message - the receiving system must go fetch it from the named web site.

While for a previous post that did work it is:
src="cid:[email protected]"The cid: there means that the image is contained in an attachment to the message. Further down in that view source you'll encounter a (possibly large) block of encoded data which is the image file itself, likely base64 encoded, and delimited by that marker you see after "cid:"

So the claim "done in exactly the same way" is cast in some doubt.

Oddly he says he can see the picture fine in the posting he received,
but nobody else can.That could be explained if he is a member of the "ngauge" group and the rest of you aren't. Or may be explained by the "draftattachment" part of the URL, implying that the image is in a part of the site (his draft messages) that only he can access.

Is it a bug ?Maybe.

You didn't say whether he composes his messages using the group's site or via his email user interface.

The "draftattachment" part of the URL suggests to me that he composed the message on the group's site. If that is the case then I'm not sure how or why the site would choose to reference the image file remotely (https) rather than include it as a message attachment (cid). Possibly that is a bug with the Draft mechanism in Groups.io.

If he composed the message in question using an email interface, then he may have inadvertently done a drag-n-drop from the image in a Draft he was composing for the ngauge group, and then failed to override the email interface's default of using https for images dropped from web sites. In this case the difference between this message and his others could be simply that this time the image he used wasn't on his computer, but in Groups.io's servers.

Shal

Picture not appearing

#2230

A member has made a number of posts with embedded pictures, which have worked OK. But his last posting, done in exactly the same way, does not display a picture, though the email I received does have a square box where it should be. There is nothing when viewed on the web side or in a digest.

Looking at the source of the emails, the faulty one has the picture as
src="/g/ngauge/draftattachment/442690/0/DSC_3238.JPG"

While for a previous post that did work it is:
src="cid:[email protected]"

So it looks to me like something went wrong on group.io and it has not been loaded correctly. 

Oddly he says he can see the picture fine in the posting he received, but nobody else can.

Is it a bug ?

Noel

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Re: European Date Format & 24hr Clock #calendar

#2228

Nice Shall! ?Thanks for that. ?I had no idea yyyy-mm-dd was the international standard. ?I wonder how the person who came up with it feels as so many never use it. ?Probably just has a permanent tear track under one eye.?

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-LeeAnne

?Archivist

Re: European Date Format & 24hr Clock #calendar

#2227

,,, and, possibly more relevant (for web usage),?

And I've noticed looking at archived messages, that go from having a time (in correct zone), to month (three letter abbreviation) day, then to mm/dd/yy format...

Jeremy

Who will be happy with ISO 8601 dates, but is fascinated by the variety here

Re: European Date Format & 24hr Clock #calendar

#2226

Jack,

it's about time the World standardised YYYY/MM/DD.The world has has an international standard, ISO-8601: YYYY-MM-DD, but not everyone has gotten the memo.

I like this humorous take on it:

More details:

Shal

Re: European Date Format & 24hr Clock #calendar

#2225

And it's about time the World standardised YYYY/MM/DD.

Hear! Hear!
"08-11" is not a date!
It is impossible to get some people (even very nice ones) to come out of "We've always said/done it this way" comfort zones.?

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Re: rejected email - spoofing

#2224

Shal,

You may be right about it being a warning in the composition dialog. I will check with the user. She may have forwarded me her "sent" message, as she had already deleted the delivery failure notice.
Yes, the blue box is the message to which she was replying, I assumed that the "on behalf of" was standard protocol - "Patti Bennett" is my display name in the Group Profile. I use the same email address in both forums. She is actually replying to my reply of the initial message. That might be a big clue, is it flagging MY reply as spoofed?
The other group members did not receive her reply, but it *is* in the messages section on the website. I guess that means that it could not have been just a warning in her composition dialog??

Re: rejected email - spoofing

#2223

Patti,

A new user received an email from our group successfully, but when
she replied to it, she got a mail delivery failure, ...That doesn't look like a delivery failure notice.

That looks like a notice placed in her reply composition dialog. I think it is really just a warning that Outlook was "concerned" about the sender of the original message (that would be your group's address).

If the blue box at the bottom of the screen shot is the beginning of a quote of the message you sent (to which she's replying) then a mystery to me is why you were listed at the group's address "on behalf of" yourself. Do you use a different email address in that group than here in GMF?

Her message does show up on the website just fine.
...
Since none of the other group members received it, ...You mean, no other group members reported such a message when they replied? If her message posted to the group's message section then it should have gone also to any members that receive group postings.

Shal

rejected email - spoofing

#2222

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A new user received an email from our group successfully, but when she replied to it, she got a mail delivery failure, stating that

?

This?sender?failed?our?fraud?detection?checks?and?may?not?be?who?they?appear?to?be.?Learn?about?

?

Her message does show up on the website just fine.

I am not sure which mailserver is rejecting it, hers or the groups. Since none of the other group members received it, I would think that it was the groups.io server rejecting her response. But she is using her work email, and I know a lot of corporations can sometimes block really useful things (e.g. she can't go on dropbox etc).

Including screencap of her failure message. I blacked out her email address for privacy, but it does match what is registered in the group.

Thanks for any help!

-Patti

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Re: European Date Format & 24hr Clock #calendar

#2221

Thanks Shai - I'll just have to watch I don't get tripped up - for us Europeans - is 08/12/17 - the 12th of August 2017 or 8th December 2017? But I haven't heard any sleigh bells lately so it must be August. And it's about time the World standardised YYYY/MM/DD. It follows the normal directory dissemination. But hey were just humans - nothings prefect - what would we do with ourselves otherwise (;>? Now about decimalisation........

Cheers

Jack(;>J

Re: Sharing a calendar with a subgroup? #calendar

#2220

If these folks aren't on too many groups, they may be able to use the Calendar on the overview page without much confusion. /calendar  That will show events for all of the groups they are members of and will have the 'shortcut' name of the group shown first.  You can hover over each one to see most of the description, or click on it to see the whole thing if it doesn't fit the page.  You could try it out to see what you think.

Duane

Re: Sharing a calendar with a subgroup? #calendar

#2219

That's precisely the issue; there are events I want to make private -- chores like "hey don't forget the garbage has to go to the curb by Thursday" or plans for group meals like "hey, dinner tonight is trout a la creme" that I don't want going to the big group.

Given that all members of a subgroup have3 to be members of the main one, I suppose it's a minimal issue, but I'd like to be able to get people a single authoritative calendar of stuff going on at the house so people only have to check one place. Checking their own personal account calendars might be the right solution but I have to remind people that's there.

Re: Sharing a calendar with a subgroup? #calendar

#2218

?,

Is there a way to configure a group's calendar so that its events are
auto-shared with a subgroup?No, but members of the subgroup are perforce members of the primary group.

Meaning that members of the "residents" subgroup will receive event reminders from the primary group, and can access that group's calendar.

Perhaps what you want to do is disable the calendar in the residents subgroup so that residents do not become confused about having two calendars. That would work unless there are events which should only be displayed to members of the residents subgroup.

Shal

Re: Help with a group renaming #howtoguide #groupowner

#2217

?,

Any idea on how to fix this? Will this clean itself up on its own?It may be a matter of page caching in your browser. Try refreshing the page before attempting additional changes.

How long does the renaming and realignment of resources take on the
back end?I haven't noticed any delays on that end. But I've only once added a subgroup to a group.

Shal