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Re: Listing ot Topics covered by Daily Digests

 

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I miss this too. It was a good time-saver and quite helpful.

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Re: Don't rename the subdomain!

 

Yep.? It's back now.? Either it took some time, or the email I sent to support was already read and he helped out.

I am afraid to put it back, but that is my next step.? I'll wait until tomorrow or later today.

I hope it just took some time to happen.? Not that I plan to rename the sub domain, but it would be nice to know if it was needed it is easy to do.
Re: Don't rename the subdomain!

 

Jeff,

Specifics are the group was called JeffTest. I added sub groups so it
became [email protected].
The default for the parent group would have been [email protected] - the prior group name becomes the subdomain name, not both group and subdomain.

Not sure if the subdomain field is editable and should not be, or if
all the variations I have been trying just pushed something over the
edge.
The subdomain field is supposed to be editable.

I can no longer get to the group nor send it emails.
I don't know if you've made further corrections, or if it just took a while to sink in, but it works for me:


It is possible that the directory doesn't update instantly, or that your browser had cached an old copy.

Shal
Re: Listing ot Topics covered by Daily Digests

 

LeeAnne,

... I really miss seeing who posted the message in the "Topics in
this Digest" list at the top of Daily Digests. Have they been taken
out for some reason or never were there?
I'm not sure if they were ever there, but a logical problem is that several people may have posted to each topic. Rather than arbitrarily pick first or last, the list has none.

(Also these links to the actual topic in the digest only work on
computers not my smartphone?)
The View/Reply Online links work on my phone (Android, Chrome), but one complaint is that if I'm not currently logged in they prompt me to log in - even when the group in question has Public archives. I shouldn't need to log in unless the group has restricted archives.

Shal
Don't rename the subdomain!

 

I found a way to break my test group.? I have been doing a lot of testing to see what happens if we change our minds in the future before committing the group we want.? I am quite impressed with the many options out there.

My current round of testing is using sub groups.? I am able to rename the parent group and all of the sub groups.? Then I noticed that the subdomain name field was open to editing.? I renamed it.? Wasn't a good idea!? I can no longer get to the group nor send it emails. I get Can't reach this page errors using the web interface.? Emails go to a black hole so far.? I expect some bounce response later on.

Specifics are the group was called JeffTest.? I added sub groups so it became [email protected].? I renamed it to [email protected].? That worked.? Then I renamed it to [email protected].? Can't get to it anymore now.

A search does not find JeffTest anymore.? JeffTestChange is there, but clicking on it gets:

Hmm, we can't reach this page.

Try this



Not sure if the subdomain?field is editable and should not be, or if all the variations I have been trying just pushed something over the edge.
Re: Passwording files

 

Thanks, Shal.?

I finally decided just just a bit more security would be enough! ?I passworded the PDF document. Not foolproof by any means!

Frances
Listing ot Topics covered by Daily Digests

 

Not sure if this has been discussed in the past but I really miss seeing who posted the message in the "Topics in this Digest" list at the top of Daily Digests. ?Have they been taken out for some reason or never were there??
(Also these links to the actual topic in the digest only work on computers not my smartphone?)
And what happened to being able to past a screen grab in messages? ?
And... oh. ?Never mind, ?I am a walking, typing question box today. ?I have a few more but don't want to use up all my posting credits in one message. ;-)


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-LeeAnne

?Archivist
Re: Passwording files

 

Frances,

... can anyone tell me whether it is possible to password files? We
wanted to put a document in our files that some might feel needs
extra security.
There's no feature like that.

I wouldn't really expect there to be, for protection in the Groups.io
context I'd expect that it would be an access control like "mods only":
those without access wouldn't see it at all and those with access
wouldn't need a password. But I don't see even that form of access
control on the Trello to-do list.

Another option would be to password protect or encrypt the file before uploading. Some applications (like Word and Excel) allow you to Save As a file with a password required to open it. My recollection is that those passwords do not encrypt the content, and can be gotten around.

You can probably run an encryption tool on your computer. In fact, there are likely many choices and choosing one becomes the issue. Note that their quality may range from "can be broken immediately by someone in the know" to "probably won't be breakable in the next forty years or so".

Shal
Re: is a "confirmation" message sent out?

 

I wquld ask they to forward both the Welcome and the message they attempted to send.
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Bob Bellizzi

The Corneal Dystrophy Foundation
Re: is a "confirmation" message sent out?

 

Possibly they have their clock incorrectly set? ?I know this used to cause issues at Yahoo with less net-familiar people.
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Bob Bellizzi

The Corneal Dystrophy Foundation
Passwording files

 

Before I make a suggestion on Beta, can anyone tell me whether it is possible to password files? We wanted to put a document in our files that some might feel needs extra security. What's the status?

BTW, our group is totally private.

Thanks.

Frances
Re: Making [email protected] a YahooGroups moderator

 

I can still add/change moderators and owners to all of my groups.? I do need to be in a desktop version of the web site.? The mobile site limits what I can do.
Re: moving a message to a different subgroup

 

Hi

I found a thread using search - Moving an entire thread from main group to subgroup or vice versa

It says that a group and its subgroup are separate.

I searched for moving message subgroup and the message retrieved just after yours was the relevant one.
Message 1711.

Frances


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Re: moving a message to a different subgroup

 

There's not a way to do it. There has been some discussion on the beta group in the past, but as far as I remember, there are no plans to add it.

Duane
moving a message to a different subgroup

Chris Laska
 

I looked and tried but cant figure out how to move an message post to a more appropriate subgroup. Please can you tell me how to do this ?
is a "confirmation" message sent out?

J_Catlady
 

I just had a pending (now new) member claim that they received a "welcome message" and then tried to send a message to the group, but that the message was rejected saying they were not yet a member.

The order appearing in the logs is normal, except for (2):?

(1) applied for membership?
(2) attempted to send message to group (before having been approved)
(3) sent owner message (which is our questionnaire)?
(4) was approved?

It seems that possibly, immediately after (1), the person got the idea that their membership was approved, when actually only their confirmation as a groups.io member was verified. So is there some sort of message that goes out to them once they click on "confirm"? If so, does anyone know what that message says? I'm wondering about the wording of such a message, if it exists, and if it could possibly be clarified. If so, I'll post to this about beta. I'm just not sure whether the member herself was confused, or whether there's a "confirmation" message that itself is confusing.

J
Re: Making [email protected] a YahooGroups moderator

 

ken,

I have just the one member profile and a green crown.
Then you are a moderator.

When I put the cursor over my name on Yahoo Groups Management
function it now shows me as 'owner' with a green crown,
I'd forgotten about that. That's a bug that's been present a couple of years now. I see "Owner" as the hover text on both blue and green crowns. Whatever the text says, blue is Owner, green is Moderator. I don't think any actual status or privilege changes have occurred on a system-wide basis.


The list owner has been inactive for the last ten years, leaving the
two moderators to run the list.
... my status changed overnight. Yesterday I had the privileges to
make [email protected] a moderator.
If that's true, and you don't now, perhaps the other moderator has the privilege and removed it from you. If that happened it would either be an oddly coincident accident or an aggressive move indicating a disagreement of some kind.

Look in the Moderator Activity tab of the group's Activity Log for "Privileges changed" entries. Or put your email address in the search box to see anything related to you.

By the way, I'm not trying to say that you're not seeing what you're seeing; but I've seen no evidence lately that anyone at Yahoo/Oath/Verizon is paying any attention to Yahoo Groups, so I'm skeptical of claims that the code has been recently changed - and especially skeptical of claims of intent. So, to me, the more likely answer is that something else accounts for what you're seeing.

Shal
Re: Making [email protected] a YahooGroups moderator

 

Shal,
I've never been listed as Owner before and I have just the one member profile and a green crown. Today
I've asked the list owner to make me a co-owner. When I put the cursor over my name on Yahoo Groups
Management function it now shows me as 'owner' with a green crown, this never happened before,
my status changed overnight. Yesterday I had the privileges to make [email protected] a moderator.
The list owner has been inactive for the last ten years, leaving the two moderators to run the list.

ken

On 2017-07-07 12:13, Shal Farley wrote:
Default,

Also YahooGroups now shows me as Owner as well as Moderator on some
screens.
That likely means that you have more than one membership in the group,
at least one as moderator and one as owner.
When visiting the group's pages click on the "Membership" drop-down
and see if you are listed with a blue owner crown or green moderator
crown. If that display is a fly-out you can switch between
memberships. Pick a blue-crown membership.
If that drop-down shows only a single membership, and it is not a
blue-crown owner, you may need to sign out and sign in under a
different account, one that has owner privileges. Before signing out
look in the Moderators tab of the Manage Members list to see what
other "Yahoo Profiles" (aka accounts) you have as members of this
group.

Today ... I went into Edit Profile and I no longer can change the
*Role* of any member.
As a moderator you may not have that privilege. Any owner has it, and
can give that privilege to moderators, but many owners don't give it
to moderators, or give it only to select few, because the privilege to
"Add, remove, and change moderator privileges" gives the moderator
power second only to the owner role.

YahooGroups is making changes, likely to prevent group transfers.
I think it is more likely, given that you have both moderator and
owner memberhips, that you were accessing the group with the wrong
one, and that nothing has actually changed on the Yahoo side.
Shal
Re: Making [email protected] a YahooGroups moderator

 

Default,

Also YahooGroups now shows me as Owner as well as Moderator on some
screens.
That likely means that you have more than one membership in the group, at least one as moderator and one as owner.

When visiting the group's pages click on the "Membership" drop-down and see if you are listed with a blue owner crown or green moderator crown. If that display is a fly-out you can switch between memberships. Pick a blue-crown membership.

If that drop-down shows only a single membership, and it is not a blue-crown owner, you may need to sign out and sign in under a different account, one that has owner privileges. Before signing out look in the Moderators tab of the Manage Members list to see what other "Yahoo Profiles" (aka accounts) you have as members of this group.

Today ... I went into Edit Profile and I no longer can change the
*Role* of any member.
As a moderator you may not have that privilege. Any owner has it, and can give that privilege to moderators, but many owners don't give it to moderators, or give it only to select few, because the privilege to "Add, remove, and change moderator privileges" gives the moderator power second only to the owner role.

YahooGroups is making changes, likely to prevent group transfers.
I think it is more likely, given that you have both moderator and owner memberhips, that you were accessing the group with the wrong one, and that nothing has actually changed on the Yahoo side.

Shal
Re: Making [email protected] a YahooGroups moderator

 

i will ask around, but we made a successful group transfer of a very large mailing list to groups.io, so this must be a very new thing ..

servus

markus

Am 07.07.2017 um 20:44 schrieb Default:

Yesterday, I invited [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> as a new member. I read the instructions that [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> had to be given moderator privileges.
I went in YahooGroups and saw that I had to do was use Edit Profile, click on Role and change that to Moderator.
Today after [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> joined I went into Edit Profile and I no longer can change the*Role* of any member.
The function is now disabled and I can't make [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> a moderator.
I have been the moderator of this group for 15 years so losing moderator privileges was a surprise.
Also YahooGroups now shows me as Owner as well as Moderator on some screens. YahooGroups is making changes,
likely to prevent group transfers. Suggestions appreciated.
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