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Logging in to Yahoo Groups

weebeequilting
 

Sometimes, I find it necessary to log in to my old Yahoo Group. ?When I try, I am getting the purple error bar at the bottom. ?I tried logging in to other Yahoo Groups I belong to and get the same thing. ?Silly question I know, but is anyone aware a problem going on this weekend?


Janice B

AZ


Re: Groups.io site updates #changelog

 

Drats! ?Also wanted to say how much I love these updates of yours. ?I am not techy and am up to eyeballs with busy in our group so don't have time to try to understand and follow Beta. ? These updates are a total time and brain saver. ?You rock.?
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-LeeAnne

?Archivist


Re: Groups.io site updates #changelog

 

Late as usual but Shal, our group totally miss the ability to view PDF without downloading. ?So much so I was hoping someday the same would happen with Word docs. ?We have 9 pages of folders all of which contain at least one document - many have sub folder and can contain several documents. These documents are updated constantly (or should be darn it!) so a fresh download is needed each time it is looked at. ??

Can I assume from this post that PDF will never be coming back to not requiring a download?
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-LeeAnne

?Archivist


Groups.io site updates #changelog

 

Hi all,

Not much caught my interest in this week's message from Mark about updates to the site:
/g/beta/message/12720

Feel free to reply to this topic if you'd like to comment on the changes. Or better yet, if you expect a lot of discussion start a new topic (or rejoin an existing one) about a specific change.


Sent a message to updates@

This is only of interest because he hadn't posted anything there since last April. So a fairly long list of changes since then:
/g/updates/message/20

Of significance (to me) in the updates message:

o Chat
o Two-factor security.
o You can upload and include images in Wiki pages.

I think he missed at least one of significance: the ability to have Files, Photos, Databases, and Links copied from your Yahoo Group as part of the Easy Group Transfer. But then he did say that the message would have to have been much longer to include all the improvements.


Back to the changelog, anyone have comments about these, or others:

o Approving a pending message to a closed thread will now work.
o Changes by Facebook broke integrations.
o With yahoo group transfers, add a note saying members have been added to the updates group.
o For enterprise groups, direct add should not add people to updates@.
o For messages originating in email (not web), we resized inline images to a max of 640x640, regardless of what the group settings were.
o HTML footers were missing Reply to Sender/Group for groups set to reply to both.

Please call out any you find significant.


Shal


Re: Groups.io site updates #changelog

 

Brenda,

I want to add to this, the fact that you add a link to where the
change was discussed or made is even more helpful. I was having
problems finding where an item on Mark's #changelog list was at in
the group.
In each thread-starter I've included a link back to Mark's posting in beta@ so that interested people can easily go see what else he said.

I've not attempted to track down any further discussion within beta@ of the particular items. I'm going to leave that as an exercise for you, dear readers, else I might not ever complete one of these postings.

Anyone interested in a volunteer research-assistant job could take on the task of citing and summarizing any further discussion there may be on particular items. Of particular interest might be if Mark expressed a motivation for choosing one suggested implementation versus another.

Shal


Re: Groups.io site updates #changelog

 

Brenda,

This would help me greatly. I am trying to keep up with the groups
better, and have separated Mark's weekly #changelog posts from the
others so I can read them better, but frequently they do not explain
the actual changes.
This thread (and its siblings) is a good place to ask for explanations.

So if you are willing to do this thread or topic or whatever you are
calling it, I would really appreciate it.
Two down. We'll see if I can keep up.

I'm using the same #changelog tag as he uses in beta, you can use it to follow or filter this sequence of threads.

Shal


Re: Groups.io site updates #changelog

 

Nightowl >8# wrote:>>This would help me greatly. I am trying to keep up with the groups better, and have separated Mark's weekly #changelog posts from the others so I can read them better, but frequently they do not explain the actual changes.<<

I want to add to this, the fact that you add a link to where the change was discussed or made is even more helpful. I was having problems finding where an item on Mark's #changelog list was at in the group.

Brenda


Re: Groups.io site updates #changelog

 

Shal Farley wrote:>>Also, any reactions this synopsis/reaction message? Is it worth making a habit of it?<<

This would help me greatly. I am trying to keep up with the groups better, and have separated Mark's weekly #changelog posts from the others so I can read them better, but frequently they do not explain the actual changes.

So if you are willing to do this thread or topic or whatever you are calling it, I would really appreciate it.

Thanks Shal,

Brenda


Wiki

 

Is there a way to transfer a wiki from Google Sites?

Sharon
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Re: always taken back to Topics view - can people here shed some light?

J_Catlady
 
Edited

Donald, No, it's not the default. It's supposed to remember where you were. The bug is recent and I was asking here to see if anyone else has experienced it. With you, that makes three.

Thanks. J
Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 14, 2017, at 5:57 PM, Donald Hellen wrote:

J_Catlady,

It works the same way for me as it does for you, so it appears that's
the default setting when you land on your group's page.

Donald > >
[Excess quote trimmed by moderator]


Re: always taken back to Topics view - can people here shed some light?

 

J_Catlady,

It works the same way for me as it does for you, so it appears that's
the default setting when you land on your group's page.

Donald



On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 09:07:01 -0800, "J_Catlady"
<j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

I've mentioned this in beta and emailed Mark about it, but nobody else seems to experience the problem and I haven't yet heard back from Mark: it has started to drive me absolutely insane that every time I go out and back into Groups.io (without logging out and back in), I am taken back to Topics view in all my groups, whether or not I was in Messages view before that. I've done experiment after experiment, and this is absolutely reproducible.

I'm hoping someone in this group can shed some light. Is it a bug? Is there something going on with my browser?

Could someone else try going out and back into Groups.io (without logging out and back in) from Messages view and see whether you're taken to Topics view? Or am I the only one?

The behavior started approximately a week ago.?

Thanks.

J


Groups.io site updates #changelog

 

Hi all,

Time for Mark's weekly message about updates to the site:
/g/beta/message/12652

Feel free to reply to this topic if you'd like to comment on the changes. Or better yet, if you expect a lot of discussion start a new topic (or rejoin an existing one) about a specific change.


Changed the messages threading algorithm:
1. If a message has threading information, use that. (same as before)
2. If a message does not have threading information:
3. If it's a web post, assume it's the start of a new thread
4. If the subject starts with Re:, look for a matching subject within the last 30 days
5. If the subject does not start with Re:, look for a matching subject within the last 2 days

New here is 3: before it was possible for a message posted via the Groups.io "New Topic" button to be threaded in by way of a Subject match.

New here also is 5, and item 4 extended to 30 days (had been 7 days).

Note that "same as before" on 1 refers to the incoming message having at least one citation header field (In-Reply-To or References) which cites a prior message in the same group. With the additional requirement that the Subject field also match (ignoring Re: and similar).


The 'View/Reply Online' link in HTML messages now goes to the message.

Yay! ... and also displays the message number... double yay! This is the link that had been broken, but when fixed was made a link to the topic. But if the topic had a lot of replies that left you scrolling down to find the one you wanted to view/reply. This way is better IMO.


You can request RSVPs for repeating events.

I'm not sure, but I think that means you already could for one-time events? Sorry I haven't been paying much attention to the calendar feature.


Removed Google Hangouts integration.

Apparently Google disabled the interface that made this possible. I use Hangouts (love them for family communication) but hadn't tried integrating them with groups.


And a herd of minutia:

o Polls can now be anonymous.
o Additional image resize option of 312 x 312
o New users default to America/Los Angeles timezone instead of GMT
o Reminder to set up profile photo or Display Name when you log in
o Mod/owner and Poll creator can see who responded, and can email them.

The are other items that didn't capture my attention. Please call out any you find significant.


Shal


Re: always taken back to Topics view - can people here shed some light?

J_Catlady
 

Ok, pasted in your comment. Thanks.
J

On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 1:43 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
If you forward a copy of the Support verification email to me, I could add on to it.? Or you can just copy/paste my comment in a reply.

Duane





Re: Photos again

 

There are currently no search or sort options on Photos. (Albums, as well as photos within albums, are sorted by name right now, not date.) Mark has a card on the Trello page to do some more work on them, though -

Duane


Re: always taken back to Topics view - can people here shed some light?

 

If you forward a copy of the Support verification email to me, I could add on to it. Or you can just copy/paste my comment in a reply.

Duane


Re: Photos again

 

I don't see a way to sort the photos. We have so many folders of photos and now the oldest appears at the top so we have to scroll down a long way to find the new ones. Would like to be able to sort by date and alphabetically.

Barb B.


Re: always taken back to Topics view - can people here shed some light?

J_Catlady
 

Duane,

Could you mention it to Mark via support as well? It's been a week and I've sent him multiple messages and I don't think he understands that this is an actual problem. Thanks.

J

On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 9:53 AM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
Sort of...? ?I had noticed it previously, but just worked around it before.? If I click on a group name from the overview page - / - it always takes me to Topic View.? If I use the drop-down menu to get to a group, it remembers the previous view.? It was once fixed with:
BUGFIX: In the My Groups view, when clicking on a group, go to your last message view; same behavior as the sidebar from the #changelog of Jan 6, but looks like it snuck back in.? Definitely a Support issue.

Duane





Re: always taken back to Topics view - can people here shed some light?

 

Sort of... I had noticed it previously, but just worked around it before. If I click on a group name from the overview page - / - it always takes me to Topic View. If I use the drop-down menu to get to a group, it remembers the previous view. It was once fixed with:
BUGFIX: In the My Groups view, when clicking on a group, go to your last message view; same behavior as the sidebar from the #changelog of Jan 6, but looks like it snuck back in. Definitely a Support issue.

Duane


always taken back to Topics view - can people here shed some light?

J_Catlady
 

I've mentioned this in beta and emailed Mark about it, but nobody else seems to experience the problem and I haven't yet heard back from Mark: it has started to drive me absolutely insane that every time I go out and back into Groups.io (without logging out and back in), I am taken back to Topics view in all my groups, whether or not I was in Messages view before that. I've done experiment after experiment, and this is absolutely reproducible.

I'm hoping someone in this group can shed some light. Is it a bug? Is there something going on with my browser?

Could someone else try going out and back into Groups.io (without logging out and back in) from Messages view and see whether you're taken to Topics view? Or am I the only one?

The behavior started approximately a week ago.?

Thanks.

J


Re: Groups.io site updates #changelog

 

Maggie,

But when I use that link it always takes me to the first message in
the topic.
Well, the subtle thing I noticed seems to have vanished. Now the topic link is used. I think that's a bug so I'll cc this to support.

Mark:

On emailed replies it would be much friendlier if the View/Reply Online link either used the direct message URL, or a topic URL with a fragment part specifying this message.

And I'll give a nod to Brenda's concern (in beta@) - I'd prefer the message URL in all cases (topic starter and replies), and it would be helpful too if the message number were in the text somewhere.

Shal


On 1/8/2017 2:59 AM, Maggie wrote:
Hi Shal,

The "view/reply online" link works again, so Yay! Thanks for getting
that on the to do list. It a huge time saver! You said this:

One subtle thing I noticed, but I don't know if it is new, is that the
provided link ("View/Reply Online") is a link to the _topic_ if this
message is the first in a new topic, but is a link to the _message_ if
this message is a reply in a topic. That's kind of cool for the
topic-starting message, as it means you'll see any replies that beat you
to the punch.
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