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Re: exporting data

 

On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 01:53 PM, Chris wrote:
there must logically be a topic table¡ªat least containing the topic name
topics have a number which forms part of the URL that you see in the address bar of your browser. For this topic on GMF it is 110644003. You can have multiple topics with the same subject.
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If you wish to only extract certain topics and their associates messages, you can look to use the /gettopic endpoint of the API.? You'd need to write your own code to do that though. The /gettopic endpoint will return the messages for a specific topic in a Message List Object. You'll need to parse that and look for individual message objects. The body element of each message object should contain the message text:
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Beyond that, you will also find an attachments element with details of any attachments the message has:
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As Duane said, it could take some work on your part!
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One more question: is it possible to download all attachments from a group at once?
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In a word, No.? Attachments are connected to messages so you need to get the message details as described above to get the download URL for each attachment.
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You can view a list of all the attachments for your messages though with links back to the individual messages. If you have a Premium group, then go to Admin > Preferences > $ Billing and use the View Attachments link. If you have a free group, then it's Admin > Preferences > + Upgrade.
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Regards
Andy
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Re: exporting data

 

On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 07:53 AM, Chris wrote:

I understand from the messages that downloading this data is not currently possible, but it would be great if this functionality could be implemented in the future.

Suggestions need to be made on the beta group in order for Groups.io management to see them.

One more question: is it possible to download all attachments from a group at once?

I think you need to try the export function to see what you actually get.? Attachments are NOT one of the options, but they're included with each message.
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Duane
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Lots of detailed information can be found in the Owners Manual and Members Manual.


Re: exporting data

 

Dear friends,
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Thanks for all replies and advice!
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Again about downloading message data and related information and topic data:
When I want to create an overview of all messages from the past year, it would be helpful to organize them by topic. Since each message is associated with a topic, and since all message numbers are known per topic, there must logically be a topic table¡ªat least containing the topic name¡ªand there should also be a reference linking topics to message numbers.

I understand from the messages that downloading this data is not currently possible, but it would be great if this functionality could be implemented in the future.

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One more question: is it possible to download all attachments from a group at once?

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Best regards,

Chris


Re: Changing Mail Preferences

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I don't see Advanced Preferences under Settings.

On 1/16/2025 7:45 AM, Andy Wedge wrote:

On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 12:43 PM, Lucinda Shastid wrote:

I think I remember an option when I first joined, to receive only the first message in each thread.?

I can't find anything now about how to set that option for myself.

See Subscription > Settings > Advanced Preferences
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Andy


Re: Changing Mail Preferences

 

On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 12:43 PM, Lucinda Shastid wrote:

I think I remember an option when I first joined, to receive only the first message in each thread.?

I can't find anything now about how to set that option for myself.

See Subscription > Settings > Advanced Preferences
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Andy


Changing Mail Preferences

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I think I remember an option when I first joined, to receive only the first message in each thread.?

I can't find anything now about how to set that option for myself.

Can anyone help me?

Thanks,

Lucinda


Re: exporting data

 

On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 09:39 AM, Chris wrote:
I noticed that.
1. I could find 'messages' to download, but not 'topics' to download.
A topic is just a collection of one or more messages (with the same topic id). There's no option to just download selected topics.
2. Not only I want to view the messages, I also want to make a printable list of all selected messages incl. their attached pictures.
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There's no option within Groups.io to make printable lists of selected messages so you would need to use the features from another application to do that.? If I open a topic with multiple messages in my browser (Firefox) and do a print screen (ctrl + p) then it will generate a multi-page preview that I can print which includes in-line images.? It won't show attached images though.
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I also use a utility called and this has the ability to capture scrolling windows:
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If I open a topic with multiple messages, I can use this to capture all the messages in a single page document. It'll give you a preview of what it has captured and you can crop out things like browser toolbars and footers etc. before saving it as a PDF or a one of a variety of picture formats. You can also send the capture to Word, Excel or PowerPoint.?? Again, though, it will capture in-line images as you see those on the screen but it will not open and show you attachments (which could be pictures or other documents).
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Andy
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Re: exporting data

 

On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 03:39 AM, Chris wrote:
make a printable list of all selected messages incl. their attached pictures
That could take some work on your part.? Attachments aren't visible within a message, other than the link to them using the thumbnail.? If pictures are embedded, then they'll be part of the message, though possibly at a reduced size.
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Duane
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Lots of detailed information can be found in the Owners Manual and Members Manual.


Re: exporting data

 

Thanks Andy.
I noticed that.
1. I could find 'messages' to download, but not 'topics' to download.
2. Not only I want to view the messages, I also want to make a printable list of all selected messages incl. their attached pictures.
Best regards,
Chris


Re: exporting data

 

On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 08:16 AM, Chris wrote:
1. Is it possible to get a list of all topics in my group as owner/admin and export it?
Go to Admin > Preferences > Export Group ? and select the aspects of your group that you wish to export. Messages are exported in Mbox format and there are a variety of other applications that you could use to read them, including, I believe, Thunderbird.
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Andy


exporting data

 

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Hi friends,
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1. Is it possible to get a list of all topics in my group as owner/admin and export it?
2. Is there an easy way to make a printable list of a selection of messages including its meta-data and message-number and (if possible) a picture of attachments?
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Best regards,
Chris


Re: Online Safety Act (UK)

 

I'm not sure that really applies to us.

Some members of one of my groups have email turned off within the group, but read and respond to messages directly from the web interface.

So it would be hard to say that our "only" user-generated content is by the methods named.

Still, I doubt we'd really be affected.

-P.

On Wed, Jan 15, 2025 at 8:57?PM Dave Farrington via <Daves.djet=[email protected]> wrote:
In the following link:
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The section that jumped out at me was:
Which to me seems fairly specific. However, by no means am I an expert.
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Cheers,
Dave F.


Re: Online Safety Act (UK)

 

In the following link:
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The section that jumped out at me was:
Which to me seems fairly specific. However, by no means am I an expert.
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Cheers,
Dave F.


Re: Online Safety Act (UK)

 

On 2025-01-15 16:30, Chris Jones wrote:
referred to a guidance document (
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If nothing else it sets out in fairly simple terms what the On Line
Safety Act is there to achieve.

What that guidance doesn't cover, is the exemptions to the requirements of the act. Specifically, and what would be of most concern to groups.io list managers, is the exemption relating to email only groups.

The articles I've read have either ignored that exemption, or been extremely unclear as where those parameters lie.


jonathon


Re: Online Safety Act (UK)

 

On Wed, Jan 15, 2025 at 04:05 PM, Frances wrote:
As previously mentioned, Mark Fletcher worked with a lawyer to comply with GDPR.
Perfectly true, but compliance with GDPR and compliance with the requirements of the On Line Safety Act are not one and the same thing.?
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Both Harriet (in her original post) and Andy Wedge (in a later one) referred to a and I strongly suggest that anyone with concerns should read it before worrying any further. If nothing else it sets out in fairly simple terms what the On Line Safety Act is there to achieve. It is completely different to the purpose of the GDPR.?
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Re: Online Safety Act (UK)

 

As previously mentioned, Mark Fletcher worked with a lawyer to comply with GDPR.
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Please take a look at the documents here - /static/tos
Privacy, and especially compliance (GDPR), etc.
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GDPR Compliance
We¡¯re committed to helping Groups.io customers and users understand, and where applicable, comply with the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR). The GDPR is the most comprehensive EU data privacy law in decades, and went into effect on May 25, 2018.
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Here is a list of measures we have taken to comply with the GDPR:
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. ?Support for international data transfers by executing Standard Contractual Clauses through our updated Data Processing Agreement.
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. ?Offering data portability and data management tools including:
? ? ?- Enhanced Group Export. We have improved our existing group export system so that now group owners can export all aspects of a group.
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? ? ?- Account Deletion. Delete your Groups.io account.
. ?A Cookie Policy that outlines the cookies that we use and why we use them.
. ?An updated Privacy Policy.
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Re: Online Safety Act (UK)

 

We have a grand total of 12 members in our Group - I know them all as they have to be paid up members of our Astronomical Society.
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I've just gone through Ofcom's regulation checker for the act () and answered six, what seemed like straight forward questions and found that: "Yes, the Online Safety Act does apply to your service."
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I suspect Ofcom will have no interest in investigating our group and I'd be a bit surprised if they wished to impose a fine of up to ?18 million on our society. I don't think our members' subscriptions would cover this.
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I note that Ofcom has published information to help organisations and their lawyers achieve compliance with the new Act - it amounts to more than 2,000 pages.
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Although being retired I must have a lot of spare time on my hand, I'm not inclined to study this information.
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Are any Group Owners or Moderators here going through the legislation to fulfil the legal obligations?
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Re: Question on Pricing - how are members counted?

 

On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 06:53 PM, Nilam Nalamwar wrote:
So to confirm, it's the number of people who subscribe, not the number of people who are invited, correct?? If that's the case, and you pay yearly, is it the count on the anniversary rate and the initial payment is the minimum of $220?

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The number of members in your group is what shows on the group home page. ?It doesn't matter how they join, invited or not.
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The website says:?
"When you are billed for your group, either monthly or yearly, we look at the number of members you have at that moment. A member is defined as a confirmed, non-pending, non-banned member of your main group."
Use "calculate your costs" to see based on your group size.
Scroll to the bottom of the page.
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Re: Question on Pricing - how are members counted?

 

So to confirm, it's the number of people who subscribe, not the number of people who are invited, correct?? If that's the case, and you pay yearly, is it the count on the anniversary rate and the initial payment is the minimum of $220?


Re: using groups.io to do a survey

 

I seem to remember seeing once that Groups has a facility to do a survey, but can¡¯t find anything about it in the Owner Manual.
Does the facility exist and, if so, how does one use it?
See this on polls -
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Frances
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