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Re: How do i delete groups i admin?

 

On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 07:55 PM, <beleszove@...> wrote:
Also,? how is there no search bar in the help feature to find this answer easily?!!?
Click the link that says "View this manual as a single page."

You can then use your browser's normal "find" function to search of relevant information. In most browsers I've used, Ctrl-F will bring that up.

Regards,
Bruce

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Re: How do i delete groups i admin?

 

Go to Admin > Settings, and on the lower right you'll see a red "Delete Group" button.

Pete


Re: How do i delete groups i admin?

 

On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 07:55 PM, <beleszove@...> wrote:
I started 2 groups a few years ago that never got off the ground and were never active.? I don't see a way to delete them.? I am the only admin.?
Also,? how is there no search bar in the help feature to find this answer easily?!!???
If you have groups that you created a few years ago, you might consider repurposing them - changing the name, etc.
See the overview of features in free groups depending on whether you have a legacy group or not:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/25069

You can also promote your group - see
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/17028

If you choose to delete the group,?
Deleting a group
In the left navigation menu on the group¡¯s website, select Admin > Settings to display the main Settings page.
Scroll to the bottom of the page.
Look for and click the red Delete Group button on the right-hand side.
Follow the resulting instructions.
Note: After a group is deleted, its name cannot be reused (unless someone specifically contacts Groups.io support and asks to be able to use the name again). If you think you might want to use that group name again or make it available for others to use, rename the group to some nonsense name before you delete it.

About the Help - yes, I would prefer a search too. But I can find the info. Try using "single page" layout.
/helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/deleting-a-group

Frances

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How do i delete groups i admin?

 

Hi,
I started 2 groups a few years ago that never got off the ground and were never active.? I don't see a way to delete them.? I am the only admin.?
Also,? how is there no search bar in the help feature to find this answer easily?!!???
Thanks for your help


Re: Message run ons in new replies

 

On 20-Feb-22 10:27 AM, Chris Jones via groups.io wrote:
If replying by email it requires all the "unnecessary" material from the previous post to be deleted, leaving only the "quotation" to be carried forward into the reply.
I use Thunderbird, which works the same way as the website - highlight the text you want to quote, as I did here, and click Reply.

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Re: Member adds links to database

 

On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 09:56 AM, Tommy Meehan wrote:
Thanks for the reply Frances but my group is already set to "Members can view, only moderators can create" for Databases. In the link to the Group Owners Manual in Permissions for Databases that you provided it is clearly stated that this setting is the default setting.
Perhaps I found a bug since I think that the Settings should control editing of all databases. However I just tested with a non-moderator email, and even though the group setting is set to Members can view, Moderators can create, and owner's help says:
Members can view, moderators can create tables
Members can view database tables, but only moderators can create and modify them. (This setting is the default.)

But in fact, members can edit the database tables unless each database is further locked down.
Using my member-only email, I can edit table properties, add rows, edit rows and more.

If I edit permissions on the individual table (table properties) so that the only thing a member can do is view the table, it does stop editing except by moderators and table owner.

If this is the way it is supposed to work, the Help needs to be changed to alert owners and moderators that they need to lock down each database / table if that's what they want using Permissions for each table.

Can someone else test this??

Frances

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Re: Member adds links to database

 

Thanks for the information Duane. I will put in a bug report on Beta.

An activity search for my group only shows one row modified -the one I deleted that was a dead end. I can't find anything else. I tried searching with multiple keywords but came up empty. I was especially hoping to find the date when the database entry was first put in. I'm sure the notation "imported from Yahoo" means it was originally uploaded back when we were still a Yahoo group. That being the case, it doesn't seem too surprising there is no record in the activity log.

tommy0421


Re: Member adds links to database

 

On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 01:10 PM, Tommy Meehan wrote:
was titled? "Updated Data Base LinksMan's Name." I presumed that was the title the member chose -- especially because of the lack of a space between Links and Man's
That's likely a glitch in the system where a space isn't inserted like it should be.? It's happened on other notifications/messages.? I'd report it as a #bug on beta.

stated: "Description: Links imported from Yahoo."
That's the description of the DB that was used at import, so Groups.io put it in the message.

The other oddity is, I'm not sure what the member did that caused Groups.io to issue a notification.
In the Activity Log, search on the Modified Row action to see which row was edited.

Duane
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Re: Member adds links to database

 

Duane possibly the member only edited the existing database. In doing some more searching I discovered by clicking on "Updated" in the Database section I get a date 01/15/18. This was the day we began our move to Groups.io from Yahoo. At the top of the page is written, "Links imported from Yahoo." Possibly this was something uploaded when we were on YG! years ago and was imported when we moved.

The email notification I got Friday from Groups.io was titled? "Updated Data Base LinksMan's Name." I presumed that was the title the member chose -- especially because of the lack of a space between Links and Man's (actually a member's name which I'm not posting for privacy reasons). The email notification I got from Groups.io also stated: "Description: Links imported from Yahoo." I'm not sure who generated that, Groups.io or the member.

The other oddity is, I'm not sure what the member did that caused Groups.io to issue a notification. The text on the rows, describing the links, doesn't read like something the member would have written. The text is clear, concise and has no typos or misspellings.

?I guess instead of Beta, I'll have to email the member and ask then what they did. :)

tommy0421


Re: Message run ons in new replies

 

Colin . . .

On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 06:45:49 -0800, "Colin Brooks" <CB1718Project@...>
wrote:

Is there a way to simply reply to a topic without adding ALL the message replies to that same topic? The messages would still fall under the original topic on our message page, but not be regurgitated every time.

In many email reader programs, webmail clients, and on the group site, you can
select text in the previous message that you wish to reply to in context, then
click on reply, and only that part of the message will be quoted.

Some email clients, like the one I use on my phone, does not do this, though I
can select and delete what I don't want to quote (but it's a chore to do so on
my phone).

I wouldn't expect everyone to use this feature if it's available to them,
though.


Donald



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Re: Message run ons in new replies

 

On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 02:56 PM, Colin Brooks wrote:
Is there a way to simply reply to a topic without adding ALL the message replies to that same topic?
You mean like this? :)

Yes, but it requires discipline on the part of the members. If posting from the web UI simply highlight the bit of the previous message required (as in example above) then click on reply. (it isn't even a copy and paste!)

If replying by email it requires all the "unnecessary" material from the previous post to be deleted, leaving only the "quotation" to be carried forward into the reply.

I wish you luck trying to get your members to observe this; if you succeed please tell the rest of us how you managed it.

Chris


Re: Message run ons in new replies

 

On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 08:56 AM, Colin Brooks wrote:
Is there a way to simply reply to a topic without adding ALL the message replies to that same topic?
Online, the default is that nothing is included.? For those that reply via email, there's no way to control what they send.? What, if anything, is included is determined by the email program/client used.? The default on most phones/tablets is to include everything.? To make it worse, they usually don't show what's really being sent, replacing the quoted material with an ellipses (...).

Duane
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Re: Member adds links to database

 

On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 08:56 AM, Tommy Meehan wrote:
Yet somehow this member was able to create and upload a table entry.
Did they create the database or just edit an existing one?? It sounds like the settings for the DB weren't set properly and they edited what had been there.? That could explain the unrelated title and data.? I don't think the DB settings should override the group setting, but they may.? I haven't really played with that aspect.

Duane
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Message run ons in new replies

 

A setting in "Message Formats" doesn't seem to be available to stop the repeating of previous messages in a new message.
In order- 1 person writes new topic. #2 replies and at bottom of their message the full message of #1 is repeated. #3 replies and ALL the messages of #1 and 2 are again repeated. Since we can have topics that run 10-20 replies it gets beyond aggravating, especially on a phone, to scroll through the old messages to finally get the actual new reply.
? Is there a way to simply reply to a topic without adding ALL the message replies to that same topic? The messages would still fall under the original topic on our message page, but not be regurgitated every time.

Colin Brooks


Re: Member adds links to database

 

Frances wrote:
You can specify whether the Databases feature is available on your group¡¯s website and, if it is, who can view and create/edit tables in the group¡¯s databases...So you can control access in Settings and then in each database.
Thanks for the reply Frances but my group is already set to "Members can view, only moderators can create" for Databases. In the link to the Group Owners Manual in Permissions for Databases that you provided it is clearly stated that this setting is the default setting. When I looked at our group's Database Permissions it still had that setting. Yet somehow this member was able to create and upload a table entry. I did receive a notification but only after the fact. Since the Database feature in my group is already set to members can view, only moderators can create, that they could do that appears to be a bug. When I get time I will take this issue to the Beta group.

It's no big deal, this is the first time in the twenty years the group has been around that there was an entry posted in the Database. But it does appear to be a bug that I feel obligated to bring to Mark's attention.

tommy0421


Re: Member adds links to database

 

On Sat, Feb 19, 2022 at 10:30 PM, Tommy Meehan wrote:
Your mention of being able to turn on/off subscriber access to the Database requires going to Settings/Features? The Database in the group I own is already set to "Members can view, moderators can create tables." But that didn't stop the member this morning. Maybe because he didn't add a table, only rows of text?
I checked a database and there are more controls for each database.
Go to Database, click on title. Click on Edit Properties.
There are 4 permissions there.

I use Files and Wiki but not Databases, except as a test. I see in Owner's Help:


Permissions

You can specify whether the Databases feature is available on your group¡¯s website and, if it is, who can view and create/edit tables in the group¡¯s databases. From the Permissions list in the Database section of the panel, select the option you want to use

/helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/customizing-settings-for-premium-and-enterprise-features/database

So you can control access in Settings and then in each database.
BTW, I have a free / basic group with databases as a legacy feature.

Frances
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Re: Member adds links to database

 

Thanks Bruce. I am set up to be notified when a Photo, File or a Database entry is made. I think the reason I was remembering I could approve/disapprove Photos/Files from members is, almost no one visits the web page. If they want to add a photo or file they send it to the group and ask me to download it and then upload it to the Photos or Files section.

Your mention of being able to turn on/off subscriber access to the Database requires going to Settings/Features? The Database in the group I own is already set to "Members can view, moderators can create tables." But that didn't stop the member this morning. Maybe because he didn't add a table, only rows of text?

tommy0421


Re: Hashtag editing

 

On Sat, Feb 19, 2022 at 04:15 PM, Colin Brooks wrote:
Wish we could rename the misspelled or confused tags but alias at least creates a link.
Colin -- There's nothing to keep you from changing the name.? Just edit it, fix the misspelling, and save.?

Any associated messages will continue to carry the updated tag.

Regards,
Bruce

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Re: Member adds links to database

 

On Sat, Feb 19, 2022 at 02:02 PM, Tommy Meehan wrote:
Actually what I would have liked to have been able to do would have been to have approval of the Database entry before it got uploaded.
Tommy -- You can turn on/off subscriber access to these features, but there's no way to "moderate" an upload or a database entry, as you can for incoming messages.

Next best thing is probably to turn on a notification to yourself. Click on "Subscription" and scroll down to the "Moderator Notifications" block. You'll find the Databases one at the bottom.

Regards,
Bruce

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Re: Hashtag editing

 

Thanks guys,
? I will actually use both answers. Stop adding new hashtags and then clean up old ones with the alias link. Wish we could rename the misspelled or confused tags but alias at least creates a link.
Appreciate the help.
Colin

On Sat, Feb 19, 2022 at 2:01 PM Derek Milliner <derek.milliner@...> wrote:
Take a look at hashtag aliases, I think that will get you where you want to be (or close anyway), see owner's manual - hashtags. When you create or edit a hashtag, you can define which existing hashtag it's an alias for. Only the target tag turns up in the search list or topic dropdown list

We use them in our group to bridge the terminology/spelling divide, e.g. US 'muffler' for UK 'silencer', 'center' for 'centre' etc. as it's an international group. The idea is that a topic with an alias hashtag is transferred to the tag that it's an alias for. We use predefined hashtags to try and keep the tags relevant (and typo-proof!).

There's no problem using mixed case for tags, we have a number although the majority are lower case; I think that's more a convention than anything.

Cheers

Del



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