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Re: Group settings #settings

 

Chris,
Do I understand correctly that one can change email settings vfor a given member in the main group to individual or digest or summary, but those settings would apply to all subgroups.?

Do I understand correctly that if one wants two subgroups to have different email settings, that is only possible by setting up two groups, not trying to use sbugroups.




Richard
different email settings for subgroups #email

 

I read a thread that said that one could setup the main group to receive email and the subgroup to receive emails.? Do?I changed one of the members of the main group to receive no email and then went to the subgroup in the hopes of setting this person in the ?subgroup to receive emails, but there is no option for this.

So I'm trying to figure out the workaround.

Seems like what I need to do is setup a second subgroup with the email settings (digest, individual, etc) established in the main group.? It seems that there is no option for different email settings for a given person in the subgroups.

Seems like if I want to have my subgroups have different email settings, I have to create a new group with different email settings and not try to use a subgroup.

Is that correct?

Richard
Re: multiple managers/owners, requests to join

 

On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 10:18 AM, Bruce Hyman wrote:
when somebody new requests to subscribe, does that request go to all owners and managers?
The notification goes to everyone having the "Email when there are members needing approval" checkbox ticked in their subscription record.

if so, it possible for more than one manager to send an approval? - which could be confusing to the applicant?
Only the first one actually approves the applicant and sends him a notification. If someone else attempts to do the same after he's already been approved, that second attempt returns a 500-level delivery error to the Owner/Mod, but nothing to the applicant.

Bruce
multiple managers/owners, requests to join

 

I am about to launch a group that has been in beta for a few weeks. the group will be visible but require subscription.?
when somebody new requests to subscribe, does that request go to all owners and managers? if so, it possible for more than one manager to send an approval? - which could be confusing to the applicant? tia,?
Re: Question re Guidelines message displayed in Sidebar #howto

 

On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 03:39 PM, JD Erskine wrote:


Same computer, same web browser?
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Yup, Ed. Same & same! That's what made it so odd.

And so far since my posting last followup to this thread the Guidelines message in question has remained corrected.

So it may well have been that my compu was reading from some older cache info.

Regards,

Paul M.
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Re: Calendar Display on Home Page?

 

On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 09:51 AM, Roger Diggle wrote:
I'm wondering whether there is a way to display the activity calendar on the group's home page.
As Duane said... no.

However, it is worth pointing out that there is a "Calendar" tab at the left - hand side of every page; is it really too much trouble for your members to use it? One click and there's the Calendar.

This has the advantage that (assuming that your group is in the public listing) you can set your group up so that the Calendar is not visible to non - members, which you and your members might prefer. If you do want non - members to be able to see it then you can set the Calendar permission accordingly.

Chris
Re: Calendar Display on Home Page?

 

On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 03:51 AM, Roger Diggle wrote:
I'm wondering whether there is a way to display the activity calendar on the group's home page.
No, there's not.

Duane
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Calendar Display on Home Page?

 

Greetings -

I'm wondering whether there is a way to display the activity calendar on the group's home page. If so, how? Can anyone point me to instructions?

Thanks in advance!




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Re: Members are unable to join our group -

 

Alan,

When a message is sent to [GROUPNAME][email protected]
they get a message from MAILER-DAEMON@... ...
...
Why is Yahoo sending this message?
These must be members using Yahoo Mail - that's the only way they would get a message from Yahoo.com's mailer daemon.

Yahoo is not involved at all.
Yahoo Groups is not, but Yahoo Mail evidently is.

that says "We are unable to deliver your message to the following
address ...
You left out the important part -- the address that would have been cited.

"510: 5.1.1 That group does not exist"
That would be the error response that Groueps.io gave to Yahoo Mail when the delivery failed.

However, it does exist.
It might, but that doesn't mean that the would-be subscriber spelled its name right. Very carefully check the address cited in the error returned by the mailer daemon.

The subscribe request may come from Gmail or AOL or other email
source.
In which case it would have been some other mailer daemon giving the error return.

Shal


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Re: Members are unable to join our group -

 

On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 11:03 PM, Sandy Kozinn wrote:
Could your members be sending mail to the old Yahoo Group because that address is the first that pops up in their mail program?

I know it is in mine, and I need to check possible addresses and select the right one.

Maybe a warning ought to be included.
If this is the problem, Apple users can delete the old YG email address from their Apple email program. In Window, Previous Recipients. Just delete the old address there. It won't automatically fill in the old YG email address.

If they use Gmail, see??
Delete there.

I would assume there are similar strategies for other interfaces.

Frances

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Re: Members are unable to join our group -

 

Could your members be sending mail to the old Yahoo Group because that address is the first that pops up in their mail program?

I know it is in mine, and I need to check possible addresses and select the right one.

Maybe a warning ought to be included.

Sandy

At 08:05 PM 12/22/2019, you wrote:

?? ? We recently started a new group.?? We are changing over from? a YahooGroup.?? ? When a message is sent to [GROUPNAME]+[email protected] they get a message from MAILER-DAEMON@... that says "We are unable to deliver your message to the following address?? ? 510: 5.1.1 That group does not exist"
?? ? However, it does exist.?? Current members can send to it and the web site lists current members and all messages.
?? ?? ? Why is Yahoo sending this message??? Yahoo is not involved at all.?? The subscribe request may come from Gmail or AOL or other email source.
?? ?? What is my problem, and how can I fix it?? ?

Alan Warshawer
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Re: Members are unable to join our group -

 

When I send a message to [groupname etc.] the first address on my mailer's list is the oldest, i.e., the yahoogroup version of the list. I need to be careful to NOT accept the first address the mail program throws up but to continue to type in enough letters to get the correct address.

Might I suggest that you a) inform your members that they need to double check that their mail is going to io and not Yahoo, or b) insert a URL they can click on and warn them to use only that address, or c) in some other manner alert them to being aware of sending to io groups and not yahoo.

I AM aware of this anf occasionally still make that mistake, so it's not easy; we need to be diligent ourselves and make life easy for those who are not always on the alert for a mis-adressed email.

Some of us are older than others and far too often give in to doing things by rote that we've done for years. Please try to warn us when we're likely to get caught by the changes.

Sandy


-At 08:28 PM 12/22/2019, you wrote:

If the error message is coming from Yahoo.com, as you say it is, that means the message is being sent to Yahoo.com and not to Groups.io. That is likely where the problem lies. They need to send the subscribe request to the correct address. There is no connection between Yahoo and Groups.io. Sending a message to one has no effect on the other.

Jonathan

On 12/22/2019 7:05 PM, Alan Warshawer wrote:
? ? We recently started a new group.? We
are changing over from? a YahooGroup.? ? When a message is sent to [GROUPNAME][email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> they get a message from MAILER-DAEMON@... <mailto:MAILER-DAEMON@...> that says "We are unable to deliver your message to the following address? ? 510: 5.1.1 That group does not exist"
? ? However, it does exist.? Current
members can send to it and the web site lists current members and all messages.
? ? ? Why is Yahoo sending this
message?? Yahoo is not involved at all.? The subscribe request may come from Gmail or AOL or other email source.
? ? What is my problem, and how can I fix it?

Alan Warshawer
owner and moderator of the group
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apology - I thought second, wrote first

 

I figured out how to find old messages, and, having done that, found many answers on how to make someone a moderator.
Re: how to promote a member to moderator

 

Check /static/help#how-can-i-add-moderators-to-my-group or /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Promotion%2C-Status-or-Permissions-Change-to-Moderator-or-Owner

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how to promote a member to moderator

 

I did this once, but now I cannot figure out how to make a member a moderator, and io Help does not seem to have this sort of category of help.? Help!
Re: Members are unable to join our group -

 

If the error message is coming from Yahoo.com, as you say it is, that means the message is being sent to Yahoo.com and not to Groups.io. That is likely where the problem lies. They need to send the subscribe request to the correct address. There is no connection between Yahoo and Groups.io. Sending a message to one has no effect on the other.

Jonathan

On 12/22/2019 7:05 PM, Alan Warshawer wrote:
? ?We recently started a new group.? We are changing over from?a YahooGroup.? ?When a message is sent to [GROUPNAME][email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> they get a message from MAILER-DAEMON@... <mailto:MAILER-DAEMON@...> that says "We are unable to deliver your message to the following address? ?510: 5.1.1 That group does not exist"
? ?However, it does exist.? Current members can send to it and the web site lists current members and all messages.
? ? ?Why is Yahoo sending this message?? Yahoo is not involved at all.? The subscribe request may come from Gmail or AOL or other email source.
? ? What is my problem, and how can I fix it?

Alan Warshawer
owner and moderator of the group
/Alan J. Warshawer/
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Re: Members are unable to join our group -

 

On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 08:07 PM, Alan Warshawer wrote:
When a message is sent to [GROUPNAME]+[email protected] they get a message from MAILER-DAEMON@... that says "We are unable to deliver your message to the following address? ?510: 5.1.1 That group does not exist"
? ?However, it does exist.? Current members can send to it and the web site lists current members and all messages.
You say "when a message is sent..." - that email should be a blank email sent to that email address.
Not a post. That email address is just an automated request to join the group. That is a rejection notice of the post.
See?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/17785

Once they are approved as members, they send to [GROUPNAME]@groups.io

Frances

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Re: Members are unable to join our group -

 

On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 07:07 PM, Alan Warshawer wrote:
When a message is sent to [GROUPNAME]+[email protected] they get a message from MAILER-DAEMON@... that says "We are unable to deliver your message to the following address? ?510: 5.1.1 That group does not exist"
I'd bet that they're either sending it to Yahoogroups.com/Yahoo.com or using a minus - instead of a plus + before the subscribe part.? These are common problems for folks that have been on YG and are now using GIO.? A simple work-around is to have them click on the Join link on the home page your group.

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Re: Integration with Facebook page?

 

I am eager to take advantage of this when this feature is available once again!
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Members are unable to join our group -

 

? ?We recently started a new group.? We are changing over from?a YahooGroup.? ?When a message is sent to [GROUPNAME]+[email protected] they get a message from MAILER-DAEMON@... that says "We are unable to deliver your message to the following address? ?510: 5.1.1 That group does not exist"
? ?However, it does exist.? Current members can send to it and the web site lists current members and all messages.
? ? ?Why is Yahoo sending this message?? Yahoo is not involved at all.? The subscribe request may come from Gmail or AOL or other email source.
? ? What is my problem, and how can I fix it???

Alan Warshawer
owner and moderator of the group
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