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On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 10:15 PM, Steven Read wrote:

I had a group moved from Yahoo quite a while ago & it now appears I have lost owner status.?

In groups.io, this usually means you are not logged in, or are logged in with the wrong email address. See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Group-Content-Is-Missing

The other possibility is that you demoted yourself, or someone else did. Have the other Owner promote you again (change the Role field in your member record).

If the problem is with your Owner status in the Yahoo group, I cannot help you with that.

Good luck,
Bruce

Solved it. It was not a timeout (at least only partially), but a restriction without messaging. The files section restricted photos - they must be uploaded to the photos section.

I did not see the photo restriction error though when trying to push a large number of files (I tried 182, 150, 100 ,75), but once I tried to push a smaller number of files (25), I got the photos section restriction error. Pushing all 182 photos in one batch worked just fine when pushing them to a photo album.

My guess is that there is a backend bug or a UI oversight in how the photos section restriction is handled when pushing a large number of files - after a certain quantity, batch size, or _timeout_, the photos restriction error is not displayed in the UI or bubbled up client side. That is why a similar size batch upload worked in another group - the restriction was not in place.

Anyways, problem solved, but kinda frustrating. How do I open a bug report or enhancement request?

On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 08:52 PM, Ruth Daniels wrote:

I'm not sure why Reply to Sender, or Reply to Group doesn't open a reply, but opens a new mail window where I get to see all my mail.

Ruth -- I already gave you the answer to this in message #24753. For your convenience I am pasting the corresponding section of that web page below. Follow the instructions and change the Current Default entry for MAILTO links from Windows 10 Mail to Outlook and you should be set.

Bruce

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The following was cut-and-pasted from?

There’s nothing you need to configure if you have decided to stick with the mail client that came bundled with your operating system. But if you use a third-party email client like Thunderbird [or Outlook], you can set that as the systemwide default for everything to do with email. Here’s how you can do that on the top three desktop?operating systems.

On Windows 7 through 10, first go to?Control Panel > Programs > Default Programs > Set Associations?and click on?Associate a file type or protocol with a program. Now scroll down to the?Protocols?section, look for the?MAILTO?row, and double-click on it.

You’ll then be able to select an email client of your choice (provided you have already installed it on your computer) from the popup that appears. You’ll also find an option to get an email app from the Windows Store and immediately associate it with mailto: links from the popup.

My membership list also works. But it does not show the email address I added via "add only to the email list".??

If it did, groups.io could use that as an in by owners being able to add and then? promote to moderator.
But it is not showing that email address I added.

Some one mentioned above nothing happens when they click on conversations, I had to refresh the browser several times between copying the last of my messages from that group.? But I delete the messages as I copy and paste so thought that might be why.? Have not checked my other groups. We no longer use them.

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Ah! Thank you for clarifying that.

What it's?supposed to do is
--Open that new mail window
--Create a new mail item
--Insert the proper [mygroup]@groups.io address
--Insert the proper Subject (same Topic)
Move the Insertion Pointer into the body

This is done (hover your cursor over the "Reply to Group" link and look at the bottom of the screen) by the URL associated with "Reply to Group", which looks like this:
mailto:[email protected]&Subject=MyTopic

Your mail isn't quite configured right, so the window opens, but the rest of the info (To, Subject) is not honored. How you do this depends on what application you use for mail.

Larry?

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I'm not sure why Reply to Sender, or Reply to Group doesn't open a reply, but opens a new mail window where I get to see all my mail.? Yes, I can go to groups.io, find the message I want to reply to and type a reply, as I am doing here. Just don't understand why there's a Reply to sender option, if it's not usable.?
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On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 06:46 PM, Andrea wrote:

Is there a max file quantity or upload size that is causing issues?

There's not a hard limit (other than storage space), but trying to upload too much at once may lead to timeout of the connection, depending on site loading.? When that happens, you may get the maintenance screen.? (I always do.)

Duane
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Janis,

I believe Yahoo has purposely disabled invites. To prevent transfers?

I suspect Hanlon's razor applies here: more blunder than malice.


Sometimes the results vary with the browser you're using. When Firefox gets stuck I try Edge, and vice-versa.

As a test yesterday I tried to invite another of my email addresses.
But I could add myself to the email list.

If you mean the "Add only to mailing list" checkbox on the Invite Members page, I believe that will be the only way going forward. Absent that check, the invitation is designed to guide the invitee to sign in with or create a Yahoo Account - which will no longer serve any purpose in the email-only future of Yahoo Groups.

Except for mods/owners, but they'll have to manage some other way (membership wizard?).

Got a sorry and an error message.

Seeing a lot of that today, much more than usual. Just have to try again.

If all we can do is add to the email list and we cannot even see a
list of members ...

The Manage Members list is still working in my Yahoo Groups. Slowly. In between glitches.

... and apparently they cannot email the group!?

Posting and receiving by email seems to be working smoothly.

Another change--we can no longer post from the yahoo Groups message
board. Have not tried an email to see if it shows up on the board.

We're not supposed to be able to post from the group's pages since Oct 28th. But I'm still able to do so.

Shal


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I am trying to upload a large folder of folders of files (attachments from an old yahoo group). It contains 182 files, mostly pictures.

The upload completes but then the following message is displayed:

Groups.io is currently undergoing maintenance. We apologize for the downtime, and expect to be back shortly.

The folders have all been transferred but none of the files have been. I don't know if there is actual maintenance taking place as I was able to upload another bulk of 150 attachments to another group at the same time I was attempting to do so with the transfer in question.

• Are there characters that are unsupported for filenames/directory names?
• Is there a max file quantity or upload size that is causing issues?
• Is groups.io currently under maintenance?
• Help?

Thanks bunches.

Hi GMF peeps,

I've been trying over past several hours to get into my yahoo groups (ones I own and moderate), and nope, can't get in --
it's taking forever to even get to where I can see list of my yahoo groups,
I'm not getting the purple SORRY! (well, actually, we don't think you are, yahoo!) message, not getting any error messages at all, just.......it sits there.
I finally got to the home page of one of my groups, which took another forever, when I try to click on conversations, nothing happens.

Power cycling doesn't change it.

Gave me a pang, it did.? We've moved our groups, didn't get all the Files moved but got all the archives, and we had copied a lot of Files separately.? But I joined yahoo groups in fall of 2000, and started teaching (in the direct service universe) in yahoo groups, kind of a hotline, soon after that.??? Gesine?

I believe Yahoo has purposely disabled invites. To prevent transfers?
i had 3 groups, two of which were transferred already and a small group I transferred manually, the n removed all members except me.? As a test yesterday I tried to invite another of my email addresses. Got a sorry and an error message. But I could add myself to the email list.? I thought that would add me to a member list but no such luck!? If it had I could have promoted the other me to moderator.? In past groups at Yahoo, when I added to email list I could see the list.? But that is not happening now.

In the email Yahoo Groups sent out to.moderators and group owners a couple of weeks ago.or less, we were told we would still be able to invite members.? If all we can do is add to the email list and we cannot even see a list of members added that leaves owners with no control.over who receives the mail. We can't remove them and apparently they cannot email the group!?? Why even add anyone!!

My gut feeling is that they do not plan to restore invites, at least not until Dec 14.
Torn up? Not Working? Or intentionally blocking transfers???

This small group will be deleted, just thought I would run a test to see what haplened.

Another change--we can no longer post from the yahoo Groups message board. Have not tried an email to see if it shows up on the board.

Butch7999,

I take it that there's no way to accomplish the task in question using
some method involving an .mbox download/upload?

If you have an such an mbox file (or collection of them) from Y!Group's getmydata function, hold onto it. Or request one well before Yahoo's Dec 14th cutoff.


There may in the future be a way to use it to update your Groups.io group's messages, but nothing like that has been announced. I don't think we'll hear much about this until well after the Yahoo furor dies down.

One factor may be what to do about messages in the mbox that are already transferred to your group - you may be required to trim those out of the mbox file or risk having them become duplicated in your Groups.io group.

For now, an alternative such as putting the messages into a file for members to access may be the best bet.

Shal


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Eric,

The result of trying this is that I have the Yahoo group showing in
gray when I click "All my groups".

The gray link (as opposed to blue) means only that you've visited the Messages page of that group, within the history kept by your browser.

In that list, click the Group column heading to sort by group, then see if you have more than one membership in that group, and if so if any have a green (moderator) or blue (owner) crown.

If so, click on Manage My Groups tab to see what email address is associated with the membership holding the crown. This list is manually sorted, so you may have to search down the whole list.

However, no changes can be made to the record as in attributing
"ownership" to me.

Not by you, unless you are an owner, and not from the All My Groups or the Manage my Groups pages.

When I try to do anything I am told that I don't have permission to do
what I ask. That includes reading messages.

That's odd. Normally even members can read the messages. Unless the group owner or moderator has changed the "Who can read" in the Access Control tab of the Control Panel to prevent it.

On the other hand, my access to Yahoo Groups is being very sporadic right now, long loading delays and occasional sad-face "Oops!
Sorry, an error occurred while loading the content." Page refreshes sometimes help.

Technically this is true but how is the group listed as one of mine
and how do we remove it to start over?

If you're already a member of the group with a Yahoo Account that you logged into using a plain profile (no domain) or @ yahoo.com domain then you don't need to start over.

If you're logging in with an email address other than @ yahoo.com then log out and get a plain Yahoo account. In this case you may be able to transfer your membership from that other account to your @ yahoo.com one.

I'm certain someone has a wiki on this . . . hint, hint.

Well, sort-of. But it has been neglected and probably doesn't exactly cover what you need:

It is stranger than that. When she tried to make me a member, Yahoo
said I was already a member.

I'm not sure why that's strange. But then I don't know the history.

If the Invite page is telling her that then she should make note of exactly the Yahoo Profile (if any) and Email Address it says is a member. You need to log in using the Yahoo Profile named there, but from the above it sounds like you have.

Shal


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1)? I'm not in the know, but I'm guessing that groups.io peeps are frantically trying to transfer groups whilst yahoo groups is messed up and isn't letting them do the transfers -- that's why I would guess groups.io isn't currently responding to support queries.

2)? a group we transferred last year, but the then-owner didn't want to move the current conversations yet -- so, there was a groups.io transfer, which effectively backed-up the group, then some months of further activity on the yahoo group, then we convinced the owner to let us move the activity -- so there was a couple months gap, on our groups.io home --

one of the mods went through the messages on the yahoo group, and copied/saved-as-pdfs, ones that were worth saving, then we put them in the Files of the groups.io group.

On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 04:09 PM, Yanto wrote:

My question:
Is there any settings inside groups.io system to remove "/Mute This
Topic"/ part from message footer?

No. the ability to "unsubscribe" from individual threads is one of groups.io's advantages over alternatives

As far as I know, when we mute topic, no new message can be sent and
replying to those topic. Is it correct?

No. When you LOCK a thread the messages sent will not be passed-on.

When you MUTE a thread, new messages in that thread will not be sent to YOU anymore


groetjes, Ronaldo