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Re: [email protected] isn't a member of my Yahoo group

Edward Borg
 

Only one transfer and it hasn't started because I can't make ([email protected]) a moderator.


Re: Acceptance time frame for [email protected] account #transfer

 

I think the question is (at least for me) - how soon before we get the notification to give the go-ahead? That¡¯s for when io accepts the member request at Yahoo right?

Diane


Re: Features & Setup Questions

 

Art, it might be easier to answer just subgroup questions here. Your other questions have been talked about recently, except for the lock on Yahoo account and when will Yahoo actually delete files. You might try?/g/IHateYahooGroups/topics

As far as subgroups are concerned, have you looked at the wiki?
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Why-use-a-Subgroup
and
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Subgroups

You asked:

Do I need to create subgroups with identical names or will the transfer automatically create subgroup?
Are subgroup memberships automatically transferred or do they have to be confirmed?--?
After the bulk transfer, can the subgroup names be changed?
Are features such as Wikis and Databases on a subgroup or parent group basis?
? ?Are they limited to one per group/subgroup or can multiple such objects be created?
? ?Are they globally accessible or only from and within the associated subgroup?
Are settings unique and independent for each subgroup?
Conceptually, are subgroups unique and independent groups except for the parent group requirement?
Can I define an identifying string for each subgroup to prepend to a post's subject?
? ?For example [xyz-abc], [xyz-def], [xyz-ghi] for three different subgroups?
? ?If so, do the strings have to match the subgroup names?

I can tell you that the features - wiki, databases, files - are separate in the main group and subgroup.?
The settings between parent group and subgroup appear to be separate.
You can choose whether parent group members can see subgroup files, etc.

Probably someone else will tackle this!

Frances

FAQ on Moving from YahooGroups
GMF Wiki: (unofficial) Help for members (and would-be members) and group managers


Re: Group Guidelines on a schedule #membernotices

 

There is a little bit in this guide to group formation:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Quick-Start-for-Group-Formation

And you might consider a Group Guidelines notice.
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The Group Guidelines notice is a unique type that provides a convenient and versatile way to communicate and maintain the group¡¯s posting and conduct guidelines, if any. It has the following features and options:
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  • can be sent automatically on the first of each month as a message to the group, with an option to include members subscribed via Special Notices Only
  • As each new month is issued, the old one can be automatically deleted from the group (so there aren't several versions there) if you set the #Guidelines hashtag to one month duration. ?You can also set the hashtag to Locked, further down the page on the hashtag definition so that no one can reply to it. ?If the hashtag doesn't exist, it will be created the first time they get sent or you can create it ahead of time to adjust settings.
  • can be sent automatically to all new group members
  • can be sent manually by a moderator to a group member at any time, in case the member needs a review of the guidelines
  • appears under its own "Guidelines" tab at left on the group¡¯s pages, with an option to be visible either by group members only or by the public
  • For more information, see the Help pages.?/static/help#membernotices

    The other page on the wiki has examples -?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Group-Rules
Frances
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Re: Group Guidelines on a schedule #membernotices

 

I actually meant in the GMF Wiki. There is a link on the main page for "Member Notices", but the linked document doesn't say anything about Group Guidelines.

Thanks,
Su


Is there a uitlity/test/browse/practice group?

Christos Psarras
 

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Hello Folks,
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We will be initiating our groups' transfers soon, and in the meantime I want to nudge the users to go ahead and create their GIO account, and also browse around using the?browser interface, join a group and get some experience using the web interface.? Obviously I don't want them to join our relocated groups yet, first because they are currently empty, plus I don't want folks getting in and start sending messages, uploading files, etc, not anyway until the transfer takes place and is done.
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I also don't want to tell them they can join this group for a bit so they can practice navigation and the like and get a feel how the web interface works, this is a forum for us obviously.? So is there like some "uitlity/test/browse/practice" public group that anyone can join so they can browse around?? It can be a read-only group?if there is one like that, they don't have to post messages right now.
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And before someone suggests it, yes, I can create a basic test group for our group and after it is setup I can point them there, but then I would have to spend the time to "populate" that group with at least a screenful of topics (to give them the opportunity to scroll), then reply to some of those?topics to create threads, upload some files, photos, etc, etc, which can take quite some time, which I'm trying to avoid!
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Cheers,
Christos
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Features & Setup Questions

 

Questions, questions, questions! Yahoo set off a Tsunami. Hopefully, these won't be too much. to get answered

I just created a parent group and plan on migrating ~seven subgroups from Yahoo. There are about 8000 member entries but, excluding overlap, only about 3000 unique members, 75,000 messages and 20MB in about 130 files - no photos, attachments or databases.

Transfer
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Do I need to create subgroups with identical names or will the transfer automatically create subgroups?
Are subgroup memberships automatically transferred or do they have to be confirmed?
After the bulk transfer, can late poster and straggler info be transferred?
About how long will the actual transfer take? From request to initiation?
Does anyone know if we can put a lock on the Yahoo message boards after the transfer?
Does anyone happen to know if Yahoo will be deleting their message archives on Oct 28 or the Dec date?
After the bulk transfer, can the subgroup names be changed?

Features
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Are features such as Wikis and Databases on a subgroup or parent group basis?
Are they limited to one per group/subgroup or can multiple such objects be created?
Are they globally accessible or only from and within the associated subgroup?
Are settings unique and independent for each subgroup?
Conceptually, are subgroups unique and independent groups except for the parent group requirement?
Can I define an identifying string for each subgroup to prepend to a post's subject?
For example [xyz-abc], [xyz-def], [xyz-ghi] for three different subgroups?
If so, do the strings have to match the subgroup names?

Thank you for your assistance.

Namaste', Art


Re: Cover photo choice?

 

I currently run the Antique Pattern Library (group and website). If you can find an image on our website ?that appeals to you, let me know. Nearly all are free for noncommercial use. We watermark them but for a cover image I can share one without watermark.
Best wishes,
Sytske Wijnsma
Library Director of the Antique Pattern Library, a project of New Media Arts Inc., a charity registered in the USA.


Re: Acceptance time frame for [email protected] account #transfer

 

Hi

From the GMF FAQ -?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/FAQ-on-Moving-from-Yahoo-Groups

11. How do I check the transfer status?
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Transfer requests are sorted by when the go-ahead is given to transfer the group.
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When you click on the green "Set Up New Transfer" button at bottom left of the Yahoo groups transfer page (/yahootransfer), a new page will come up where you can enter the source and destination group names.?
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There is also a series of checkboxes for the various areas of the group to transfer (files, photos, members, messages, etc). Simply uncheck the ones you don't want before clicking the "Start New Transfer Process" button.
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If you've already started a transfer, return to the Yahoo groups transfer page (/yahootransfer), select the transfer you've already started from the "Existing Transfers" list (pull down the menu and click on its name). On the resulting page you will see the same series of checkboxes. Uncheck the ones you don't want and then click the "Update Transfer" button. Actual transfer status for any ongoing transfer can be found in the status box at the top of the page.
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New (2019-10-23): more details now available. See

Frances
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Re: Acceptance time frame for [email protected] account #transfer

 

Hello,

I paid on Oct 18th and haven¡¯t heard anything yet, if that helps.

Diane


Re: How to Include Message History on Group Home Page

 

Thanks, Frances! Yes -- the Message History now shows up. (I was afraid I was supposed to add something to my home page that I hadn't).

Linda


Re: [email protected] isn't a member of my Yahoo group

 

On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 04:44 PM, Edward Borg wrote:
How can I get an "easy group transfer" email which tells me to make the ([email protected]) a moderator of my Yahoo group to start the transfer process if I never invited to the group to join?
Edward -- Do you have more than one transfer in progress??You've chosen to redact the group names from your screenshots so I can't check those to see if it's a problem there. Rather than continue to spin your wheels, it could be that you'd be ahead of the game to just delete the existing transfer and start over.

Regards,
Bruce


Re: [email protected] isn't a member of my Yahoo group

Edward Borg
 

Chris;

How can I get an "easy group transfer" email which tells me to make the ([email protected]) a moderator of my Yahoo group to start the transfer process if I never invited to the group to join?

Duane;

That is what I'm trying to do is save my YG data!
Over 15 years of group messages!


Re: Main group = Premium Yearly but all subgroups = Premium Monthly #subgroups #upgrade

 

Duane,

I did go ahead and post my plea again on beta. It was still on moderation but Mark approved it and replied that he had fixed the bug. The pricing plan for the main group now properly "trickles down" to all its subgroups and I am now able to continue the transfer process for the subgroups. Presumably this bug fix will benefit others who took the same set of steps as I did to upgrade from Premium Monthly to Premium Yearly.

Robert R.


Re: [email protected] isn't a member of my Yahoo group

 

On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 08:49 PM, Duane wrote:
Sounds to me like you haven't invited that address to that group.
Edward; I was coming to the same conclusion as Duane. In your previous message (the one to which Duane responded) you also wrote: I even checked the moderator & member activity logs and don't see any mention of a [email protected].

Now if that statement is true then [email protected] was never even invited to the group in question. I know this sounds like a very silly question but are you absolutely certain that you haven't mixed up one group with another? The point here is that if the transfer agent was invited and accepted that invitation and so on there would be more than one piece of evidence of all that having happened, not just a single piece in one place. It would take quite a bit of effort for someone to remove all evidence of all that having happened.

Time for a few deep breaths and a slow and careful reassessment of what you reckon has been done and where.

Chris


Donations to pay for the upgrade from a free list to a Premium list

 

Currently Premium lists can collect donations from members for the Premium cost.
When free lists were confronted with a required upgrade to Premium if they had 500+ members,
there was not an equivalent method for free lists to accept donations to pay for the upgrade.
Doubling the Premium list cost at the same time increased the need to accept donations.

This issue is not dead, only delayed.? Before the policy? is changed again, free lists should be able to
collect donations before they have to pay for a Premium list.
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www.shastasprings.com


Re: PG Offline users #pgoffline

 

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Hello Duane.

That would be a great feature.? I am also working with Wilson on another issue.? I downloaded his latest PGO but it refuses to log me into Yahoo groups to even see my group.? This is despite the fact that I use Waterfox (Firefox 56) as well as Firefox (v70.0).? The problem appears to be that despite not getting the Yahoo oath message (I refuse to accept their oath so when browser presents it I say do it later which will be the sixth Tuesday of never) in the browswer PGO must be getting it.? So Wilson or his new programmer will be working on a method where PGO opens the browswer if a problem occurs (like the oath pop up) so it can be cleared and then go back to PGO.? I just hope this happens before Yahoo groups deletes everything!? At this point I can't even use PGO.? Wilson did offer to grab my groups but that is a lot of data and I would prefer to do it myself.? I have not had any luck getting Python to run on my Windows 7 box and the other 2 or 3 Github utilities seem to be Python scripts and all have said they do not work that well anyway so PGO seems to be the only game in town at this point.

Thank you.

Jim Pruitt


On 10/25/2019 9:53 AM, Duane wrote:

Wilson, main programmer and owner of PGO, made an encouraging comment this morning,

"I am working on adding functionality to PGO to allow you to post all the YG content into groups.io.

?Once its ready, I would suggest creating a sub-group called "YG archive" or something.

?Then you will be able to tell PGO to effectively email all the old posts to the sub group."

He didn't give any indication of when it might be ready or any other details, but he does understand the urgency.? I think this would be a great addition for those that can't quite afford to pay for a transfer (PGO is $25.)? It may not be quite as slick, but will save the archives and should give access to them online.

Duane


Re: Acceptance time frame for [email protected] account #transfer

 

Where do you see your place in line??? I paid on 10/22 at 8:10am (Pacific) and after confirming [email protected] also on the 22nd, started the transfer.


Re: Messages needing approval #messages

 

On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 06:31 PM, Alicia Dean wrote:
Can someone help?
I'll try...

There is a group - wide setting under Admin > Settings; scroll down to Spam Control and you will find a checkbox marked Moderated which sets the default moderation setting.

At the same time each individual member has a moderation setting that can leave them on the group default or "something else": To view or edit individual settings go to Admin > Members which will bring up a complete list of your subscribers. Click on a Subscriber anywhere in their "line" other than the checkbox. At the bottom of the page there is a section called Posting Privileges with a list of 7 options; choose whichever is appropriate. Note that this setting applies only to the specific member so any wide - scale changes may be time consuming.

Don't forget to save any changes by scrolling down to the bottom of each page and clicking on the Update Group or Save button; the terminology used differs between pages.

Chris


Re: [email protected] isn't a member of my Yahoo group

 

On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 02:21 PM, Edward Borg wrote:
I did all of that and there is no [email protected] as a member and no one has deleted them.
Sounds to me like you haven't invited that address to that group.? If it were me, I'd back up and carefully go through the detailed steps at /g/GroupManagersForum/message/19673? Many 'problems' are solved that way.

Support is focusing on downloading YG data to save them.? Mark has said that downloading is his first priority.? Importing to GIO and other items can be done after that at "leisure".

Duane
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