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Re: Subscribers v.s. Members
As I go through the settings I find one instance of the term "non-subscribers" ... it would be helpful if there was a better definition for each access level, like:
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Re: Rejecting a post with explanation
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýShal, ? Again, thank you. ? You mentioned a work around, but I could not find it in the FAQ. Please point me in the right direction. I have a bad feeling that my problem is the godlike atmosphere at Microsoft, but I'd like to try the work around anyway. ? I don't know if our messaging Microsoft would help or hinder the situation. If you believe the former, please post a good address to contact them. ? Ken ? "For all the saints and Elect of God are gathered, prior to the Tribulation that is to come, and are taken to the Lord lest they see the confusion that is to
overwhelm the world because of our sins" ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Shal Farley
Sent: Monday, July 2, 2018 1:12 AM To: GMF Subject: Re: [GMF] Rejecting a post with explanation ? Ken,
? ?Actually, that's not odd at all; in fact it is rather common. ? The symptom of not getting your own messages back (both group posts and +owner posts) has two causes.? One is the Gmail "feature" of hiding messages that you already have. And since you sent the message you already have a copy. That one is rather benign, it only hides the message from your Inbox, and Groups.io has a work-around. ? The other is Microsoft's propensity for rejecting messages from you that come back to you. Their logic is that it must be evil because the message claims to be From you but it was delivered to them from some outside service. This one is pernicious because it results in an actual rejection, which can put your address in Bouncing status. It also may give Groups.io's servers a bad reputation in Microsoft's eyes. ?
? You're not the only one, but there isn't much you can do about it other than changing email service providers. ? Mark has mentioned working on getting Microsoft to handle Groups.io traffic reliably, but it is hard to get their attention much less cooperation. ? Shal ?
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Re: Cannot add a file
In the Admin group on the left, click on Upgrade (or Billing, if your group has already upgraded to Premium or Enterprise) to see how much space you're using.? If you're not at the limit, I'm not sure what's going on.
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Re: Pending Icon, But No Member is Pending
On the Groups.io home page, /, what happens when you click on the "1 Member" link in the Approvals Needed column?? That should take you to the pending member directly.
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Re: Rejecting a post with explanation
Ken, It seems odd in that I seem to receive and +moderator messages except the some of the ones I initiate. ?Actually, that's not odd at all; in fact it is rather common. The symptom of not getting your own messages back (both group posts and +owner posts) has two causes.? One is the Gmail "feature" of hiding messages that you already have. And since you sent the message you already have a copy. That one is rather benign, it only hides the message from your Inbox, and Groups.io has a work-around. The other is Microsoft's propensity for rejecting messages from you that come back to you. Their logic is that it must be evil because the message claims to be From you but it was delivered to them from some outside service. This one is pernicious because it results in an actual rejection, which can put your address in Bouncing status. It also may give Groups.io's servers a bad reputation in Microsoft's eyes. I guess I'll just have to live with it if no one else is experiencing this. You're not the only one, but there isn't much you can do about it other than changing email service providers. Mark has mentioned working on getting Microsoft to handle Groups.io traffic reliably, but it is hard to get their attention much less cooperation. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: Rejecting a post with explanation
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My Outlook 2010 is running in Unicode mode, not POP, so I have access to all folders. I had tried looking in the Email Delivery History, but thought maybe they were special messages and not posted there. It seems odd in that I seem to receive and +moderator messages except the some of the ones I initiate. Thanks for your help, I guess I'll just have to live with it if no one else is experiencing this. Ken Old age is like a plane flying through a storm. Once you are onboard there's nothing you can do. Golda Meir -----Original Message----- |
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Re: Rejecting a post with explanation
Ken,
I haven't used my Outlook WEB page, so maybe that is altering orThat's one possibility. And if your Outlook 2010 is set up as a POP3 client with Outlook.com that becomes a definite maybe; with POP3 protocol the only server-side folder you can access is the INBOX. If Outlook 2010 is set up as an IMAP client (or whatever proprietary protocol Microsoft might use) then you should have access to all of your server-side folders, leaving no other likely place for the messages to hide. Unfortunately, it looks as if +owner messages aren't bounce-tracked at the delivery to our email services. Which means that if Outlook.com is rejecting those +owner messages for some reason you won't see them in your Email Delivery History - as you would for normal group messages. That's probably an oversight which Groups.io could/should correct. Also, Microsoft-hosted email domains (like outlook.com) seem to have more reported problems than other email services when it comes to rejecting messages that come from or through Groups.io. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: Pending Icon, But No Member is Pending
Patty,
I am showing that I have 1 Pending task for one of my lists, and itAre you looking at the drop-list, or the Groups.io home page? The latter will tell you if it is a subscriber or a message that needs approval. / but when I check my Pending Members page, no one is pending approval.Is the Pending button on the left plain (no number - consistent with the content of the Pending Members page)? Or does that button also signal a pending action? If these two were inconsistent I'd screen shot that for support. I cannot make the little icon go away. Any suggestions?It could be as simple as needing a page refresh in your browser. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: Yahoo group transfer but without the membership
Tom,
One more thing... We have some members with ... new email addresses.About them -- Groups.io won't know that those are the same person as held the old address in the Y!Group. If the old address still works (they can still receive messages there) a simple approach is to tell those members to sit tight, and let the transfer happen with their old address. Then in Groups.io they can log in to the account using the old address, and change that account's address to the new one. That will preserve their ownership of any contributions to the Y!Group. That's likely to be a lot easier than trying to change their Y!Group subscription to the new address prior to the transfer. If the old address is non-functional or on bouncing status in the Y!Group then my prior message applies - there's no automatic way to connect their new address to their content. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: Rejecting a post with explanation
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I use Outlook 2010 for my mail interface and Firefox 61.0 as my WEB interface. I have Outlook set up to move all of my SPAM and junk e-mail to my JUNK folder and I check and clean that daily. I haven't used my Outlook WEB page, so maybe that is altering or deleting my Moderator's notifications. I'll check that and update you. Thanks, Ken "For all the saints and Elect of God are gathered, prior to the Tribulation that is to come, and are taken to the Lord lest they see the confusion that is to overwhelm the world because of our sins" On the Last Times, the Antichrist, and the End of the World, by Ephraem the Syrian, A.D. 373 -----Original Message----- |
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Re: Rejecting a post with explanation
Ken,
Doesn't the group+moderator.groups.io have to go to groups.io to getYes, the +owner email is delivered to Groups.io, and it in turn forwards it on the the group moderators and owners (subject to their settings). I have had issues receiving moderator's messages at times, but notWhat WEB interface? The +owner emails are forwarded to your email inbox (your subscribed address). Whether you read your email via a webmail interface, or a PC client, or a mobile client should not have any effect on whether your receive it. Though perhaps it may be more difficult to find messages misdelivered to your Spam or Trash folders in one interface versus another. I have ALL of the "NOTIFICATIONS" checked and "OWNER EMAIL"="ALLGood. That should do it. I am set up as one of the owners. Do I need to also set up an accountNo. Not for this reason anyway. I usually have a spare email address or two subscribed to my groups, at least one as a co-owner if I don't have any other co-owners. But that's just backup, not a question of message delivery. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Pending Icon, But No Member is Pending
I have a question:? I am showing that I have 1 Pending task for one of my lists, and it appears to be a pending approval for a new member, but when I check my Pending Members page, no one is pending approval.? I cannot make the little icon go away.? Any suggestions?
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