On 01-13-2021 11:52, Michael Pavan wrote:
On Jan 13, 2021, at 12:01 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 10:53 AM, Michael Pavan wrote:
- it does not allow the Moderator to Delete Group
But with all permissions, they can do the next best thing - lock
down the group and/or remove all members.
Case in point for regular backups (group data exports)!
However my primary concern, which I believe most share, is for a group to be able to continue with a new Owner. Currently there is not enough protection for an Owner to be comfortable in many/most cases to have multiple Owners
FOBLO (Fear of Being Locked Out), is a real thing and could be easily assuaged. Simply restrict owner deletion/demotion solely to the owner account: an owner can only demote him/her self. While an owner can promote another to owner status it would be a one-way street - no owner could demote another owner. While that would not prevent a malicious owner from causing havoc it would preclude an original owner from losing control of the group.
Alternatively (or in addition to), assigning special status flags to owners could alleviate some problems:
Founder owner - the creator of a group - cannot be deleted except by the founder himself
Funding owner - the owner of the CC on file that made/makes premium payments
Designated successor owner - to be promoted to Founding(?) owner upon a TBD trigger
FOBLO would be especially worrisome for a Funding Owner under the scenario of being locked out while his credit card is still on file for automatic payments that he cannot terminate. (without closing his CC account which has serious credit score repercussions).
While these would not solve all of the problems, mitigating a large source of dangers should encourage more/most group owners to create/designate successors and reduce the number of orphaned groups on GIO.
Art
