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Adrian

Your observations regarding the keywork problems ...which I have not
personally encountered..are most likely due to the fact the company was
originally located in Taiwan but has moved to Japan, where the standard of
engineering and quality control is much higher.

I am sure they were some of the first ones to arrive here, I kept seeing
the same ones with the same recurring problems. I remember the same thing
with early Oston Brannen flutes, the keywork was very poor quality.

Certainly if anything happened to my Louis Lot...like you stealing it

<<GG>>

I would immediately buy an Altus over the counter.

What happened to that Lebret I heard you play at Top Wind?

I suspect however, after
trying his recent flutes, that Stephen Wessel is probably making the best
sounding instruments...with a stainless steel mechanism which ought never

to

wear...and the William Bennett scale.

Stainless steel ought to be a lot more popular than it is. I guess it's not
as pleasant to work with.

He is the only modern maker to my
knowledge who spends time preparing the actual body tube...annealing and
tempering and bashing it...just like Lot did over a hundred years ago.

I hope he continues to do it. I know some headjoint makers gave up on
seamed tubes because they take so much work. I am sure Nick Crabb will work
on the tubes, I think he really enjoys the physical aspect of it.

Martin
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Hartford, Cheshire, UK

Martin,

Your observations regarding the keywork problems ...which I have not
personally encountered..are most likely due to the fact the company was
originally located in Taiwan but has moved to Japan, where the standard of
engineering and quality control is much higher.

Certainly if anything happened to my Louis Lot...like you stealing it <<GG>>
I would immediately buy an Altus over the counter. I suspect however, after
trying his recent flutes, that Stephen Wessel is probably making the best
sounding instruments...with a stainless steel mechanism which ought never to
wear...and the William Bennett scale.He is the only modern maker to my
knowledge who spends time preparing the actual body tube...annealing and
tempering and bashing it...just like Lot did over a hundred years ago.

Adrian


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How about starting an Altus fan club.
I have been put off Altus in the past, having seen several with very
fragile keywork. Anyone considering second hand ones should get them
thoroughly checked. I think they sorted this out, haven't had major
problems lately. I have recommended Altus to students recently, they have a
lot to offer.
Martin
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Hartford, Cheshire, UK

A quick reminder to the Brit flutenet group that our next gig is in
Coventry on Friday 25 Sept. at 7.30pm.

We are playing for a dinner/concert for the Knights of St John and
the event is to be held in St Mary's Hall which is right next door to
Coventry Cathedral. The hall itself was built in 1240, is still
original and has a Minstrel's Gallery

Future bookings [being negotiated or already confirmed] include a job
for the Royal Navy, hopefully with a Royal Prince as guest of honour,
a concert in Rugby, another one in Stratford on Avon, Xmas gigs in
Leicester, another date at the Barbican Hall in London and a booking
for a return date at next years Town Thorns charity event. We are
also entering a competitive music festival in November so wish us luck.

Glen.

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Anyway, who would want to play a picc when bass flutes are available??

I love bass flutes, but they don't do much for a Chaikovsky symphony. :-(

True, but you should hear one playing my wife Val's composition
REVERIE. This is written for bass flute and a semi ad-lib guitar
accomp. I say semi because important gtr parts are indicated but
about 80% is free. This means that the composition sounds different
everytime it is played. It was written for a prof duo and will be
on their new CD which should hit the streets in time for the Xmas market.

BTW, has anyone done any recording straight onto a computer? I got a CD-R

recently and I'm exploring possibilities.


Yes. No big problems provided you remember to switch off things
like screen savers and any power management stuff you are using.
Leaving these on can cause the occasional glitch in the recorded sound.

If you are going to do anything serious in the way of editing,
remastering etc then the best program I know if is SOUNDFORGE. It
allows you to do just about anything a prof studio can do.

Glen.

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from Mike McArthur <mikemc@...> contains these words:

Is this the
William Bennett who designed the scale that Altus use?? If so I already
think he is a wonderful person.

You got it in one!!

By the way you have not told us how you are getting on with the new
Altus. Adrian may be interested to know that after some discussion
with him I have also bought one to replace my old Muramatsu [which is
up for grabs].

Glen

Wen,

About time you came back!!!!haha
Good to see you :)

Katie.

Jill wrote:

Shelly [sic], you go to CU @ Boulder? I've always wanted to go there,
although my mom says its too far. = How's the music/music ed. program
there?

It's a strong school. Made the US News top 20 music schools list
(for what that's worth) a year ago. The orch. conductor also conducts the
National Symphony of Ukraine, the band director is a fantastic conductor,
and academics are challenging. There is a good early music department
(although mostly on modern instruments, not necessarily a bad thing), and
of course the flute prof is great. And you can't beat the location! I got
in both here and at Florida State for my doctorate, and I chose Boulder
for the location, which is near my home in Montana (near that oceanfront
property of Joe's).

As far as college auditions go, my teacher just pulled out my two most recent
all state solos, and as she was almost positive, she still wants me to do
research. Sonatina by Eldin Burton and Variation Trockne Blumen (I made that
up, I dont have the music in front of me) by Schubert aren't in the same time
period right? I cant find the kind of web site that I'm looking for.

You're right, Jill, they are certainly in two different time
periods. The Schubert was written in 1824, and the Burton was written in
1947, I believe.

Now, I'm usually one of those "do your OWN research" types :), but
there isn't a lot out there about the Burton, so let me share the
following, which came up on the "other" list: Burton took a composition
class at Juilliard in the 1940s, and Samual Baron was in the class. (In
case you don't know, Sam was the flute prof at SUNY-Stoneybrook until
recent death.) Anyhow, Burton wrote a piano sonatina, but the comp prof
kept hearing another part, and asked Sam to play it. So it turned into a
flute Sonatina, and it won the NY Flute Club contest in 1948.

Regarding the Schubert: Trockne Blumen (withered flowers) was
originally a song (in German, a Lied) Schubert wrote in his song cycle
"Die Schoene Muellerin" (the beautiful miller girl). It's about a man who
loves a the miller's daughter, but she doesn't care for him, so he
gradually goes nuts. He's thinking in this particular song that he's going
to die of heartbreak, she'll walk past his grave and think, "oh, he really
did love me." Later, Schubert wrote a flute theme and variation piece
based on this song. This is important because if you're going to play the
flute piece, you SHOULD listen to the Lied first. You'll have a better
understanding of the piece. (I'm particularly fond of Dietrich
Fischer-Dieskau's recording on the Deutsche Grammaphon label.) And
besides, if you perform this piece, someone is bound to ask if you've
listened the the song cycle, and you don't want to have to say, "uh, WHAT
song cycle?" :)

What I

really want is like a timeline or chart of some sort that has the time periods
(i.e. Baroque, modern, rennasaince..) with the composers listed. That would
help me, if anyone knows where such a place exists--by all means let me know
about it.

I'm thrilled that the internet has become a great resource, and
I'm also happy that you're interested in this kind of music history. (Your
college flute prof will LOVE you!) But may I also suggest that you don't
neglect the humble book? :) Internet sources vary in reliablity, and you
need to learn from sources that actually document where their info comes
from. (Just like you wouldn't want to rely on the movie Amadeus, even
though it's quite good, for your history of Mozart!) I can suggest a few
from my undergrad music history days:

Sadie, Stanley. Music Guide. Pub. by Prentice-Hall. This has a
timeline with composers, and also includes the corresponding history, art,
literature, and philosophy of the period.

Alright, Flutenutters, here's a challenge: What books would you
recommend? I'm NOT listing the Stolba or Grout (as much as I think they're
quite worthwhile), because they're expensive, hard to find outside of
university bookstores, and admittedly somewhat dry reading (although I'm
rather fond of the Stolba). What guide-to-music-history books do you
recommend for your high school students? (And when your high school
students take the initiative to learn about the history of their pieces
like Jill has, what do you do to get over the shock?) :)

Best wishes,
Shelley Collins
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Sandi writes:

Haha, that reminds me of the time I went to tune tune an ocarina and
it wouldn't blow so I looked in the mouthpiece ant there were little
spider legs waving at me. Yuck.

Spiders are a vact of life in wood flute making, because of all the "put
it aside" steps. You bore the flute, then put it aside for a few months
(or maybe years) before doing the final boring and drilling the tone
holes. Invariably, there are spiders in the bore. They just seem to love
the fresh drilled and oiled wood.

The workshop mouse loves almond oil. WHenever i spill some, I find
little mouse "gifts" around the oil. He doesn't like linseed or olive
oil. Would anyone in SE Michigan care to loan me a cat for a few days.

I like your formula Joseph, you probably ought to market it.

I saw an item on eBay today "flute oil" starting bid $15. It is an oil
painting of a flute player. Seriously, Lee Collins already sells that
formula, I believe for about $2 a fluid ounce (30 ml).

Robin writes:

And who says olive oil doesn't taste so good?

OK, let me clarify, olive oil in a woodwind instrument bore does not age
well, and gets rather unpleasntly bitter after it's been in for a few
days.

And does it matter if the wood "discolours" a bit--wood'n it just
darken a bit?

Well, if the wood is already quite dark (like rosewood or kingwood) this
is not a problem. Repeated oiling will turn lovely, tan colored maple a
kind of straw yellow (and it will do the same to white birch) and olive
oil can go gunky brown. If you like using tulip wood (beautiful stuff,
that) you would really get steamed if the pale pinks went yellow.

hello everyone-bad Wendy is sneaking back in....i haven't followed my
timetable 5 days in a row yet-oh!but i couldn't wait any longer!hehe
...hm
i've gotta go to my Gma's house so bye bye!
trala!
haha!
hehe
Wendy:^)

Hi again everyone - is time for my sporadic posting after a week of relative
silence :)

From: Keith Pettway <kpettway@...>

All of you folks down in Oz - My friend Alexa Still will be doing
a flute festival somewhere on your sub continent in the next few days.

I heard Alexa when she was last in Sydney (unfortunately I couldn't attend
the masterclass but I went to her recital) and I really enjoyed her
concert.. I think the thing that amazed me most was her accent though - I
was expecting a full on Kiwi accent but it was a strange blend of american
and new zealand! She played the Prokofiev in a way that opened my eeys to a
whole new way of interpreting it... the other piece that I really enjoyed
was a Winnie the Pooh suite - it was very cute! Alexa seemed very
approachable, but being the shy young thing that I am <g> I didn't really go
up and talk to her... I wanted to say that I'd read all her posts on FLUTE
but I felt a bit silly as I'd not said anything on that list for months...
anyway maybe next time I'll know better :>

Joseph wrote:

For recorders, you must periodically suck in on the flute to clear the
windway, so you will definatly taste your oil. You clear a baroque flute
the same way. First time I gave a silver Boehm flute a quick suck to clear
the headjoint, I thought I was going to be sick. The silver residue tastes
horrible!

Hmmm... sucking flutes and recorders...... should I make a wicked Uncle
Adrian comment here??? :>

Lyn said :

Mind you, I myself
have little superstitions when I do this sort of emergency
practising...always afraid to "wear out" the music, I devise myriad methods
of disguising the actual tune etc so I do not "seem" to be practising the
piece,as it were..Does anyone else do that sort of thing??

I love doing this sort of thing when my concentration level is up to it :)
i'm sure my technique has improved a lot this year not just from regular
practice of my s****s and exercises such as Moyse, but also from intense
work on little "cells" from pieces.

Adrian:

I am certain that coming in late on this topic, due to my long absence
from the list, some other erudite person...like Joe W.....has pointed out
the purpose and history of oiling wooden flutes and recorders.

Poor Mike all he did was say something about olive oil <G> Well I believed
you anyway Mike!

We had an Ozzette..that is a female Australian <<GG>>..play the Reinecke
and another play the Nielsen on the Summer School...superb players both
of them.

Who who who who who???? Names please Adrian :) Btw I saw Katrina the other
day and asked for a report on the WIBB school and got some suitably wicked
stories about Uncle Adrian hehee... good to have the harem master back
again... that eunuch was a hard task master let me tell you!!

There is a lot of talent coming from 'down under'.....and we ain't
heard our Wendy yet.....

*ahem* aren't you forgetting someone?? *cough* *cough* lol

Glen:

Anyway, who would want to play a picc when bass flutes are available??

umm... me!! I now fully confess to loving the piccolo!! in fact you can call
me picc chick... Glen has his "inner sanctum" for players of the bass...
well I propose that we picc lovers rebel and form the outer sanctum.... we
certainly will be the ones who are heard not those bass flutes!! <GGG>

On the complaining poster.... perhaps the benevolant dictator got lost in
cyberspace and found himself on the wrong list - all this non-flute talk
must be driving him crazy :> You go Glen!!!

And welcome to our newest member Theo Lim - welcome to the flute nut house
:))

Kate the Ozette

P.S. Katie W. - good on you for trying the flute! Another instrument to add
to your list heheh

Today I happened to be alone in the
music rooms at school and I picked up a flute and tried to play it. What

is

the trick of getting a sound out of it? hehe I must have sounded awful. I
could play the low notes, from D to B, I couldn't find C at the bottom and
top of the lower octave. I guess it may have helped to have a tutor-like
book to refer to. Just thought I'd let you all now I've actually *tried*

to

play a flute now :)

Good on you Katie. You will be lucky to get a low c straight away, unless
the flute is in very good order. The second c ought to come out if you have
the right fingering, just play a b and lift your thumb off. And do let us
know when your CD comes out.
BTW, has anyone done any recording straight onto a computer? I got a CD-R
recently and I'm exploring possibilities.
Best, Martin
hoffman@...

Hartford, Cheshire, UK

Glen
Glen

Anyway, who would want to play a picc when bass flutes are available??

I love bass flutes, but they don't do much for a Chaikovsky symphony. :-(

Adrian

The advantage of the
open-holes is the extra venting on the RH..where the bore starts to

constrict

and, with the ring key mechanism you have a perfect...well almost..high
F#....as you just close the ring to shut the G hole...like a Brossa F#.
High F# is a real "bete noire" on piccs. Middle E and Eb are also helped
by the extra venting.

Open holes make sense to me. There are less fiddly little pads to swell up
as well. You need the pads fairly high though, otherwise notes like G# may
get noticeably less venting than some others. Now, if I could only swap
those bananas for okra...
BTW, how is the Eb affected by open holes?

Nancy

It's Bermuda, so we'll have to work out a deal with British Airways to get
you here on the cheap!!

You mean one of these disappearing planes?

(I only take instruction from pretty flute players! ;-) )

Just who are you trying to insult, Andrew?

Martin
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Hartford, Cheshire, UK

Papa Smurf wrote:

All of you folks down in Oz - My friend Alexa Still will be doing
a flute festival somewhere on your sub continent in the next few days.
She did not tell me just where, but I am sure you have heard about it.
If any of you are in attendance, please make it a point to hear her play
and/or teach. Then go up and meet her. She is an amazing player, a
fantastic teacher and one of the nicest people you will ever meet. Tell
her Keith said hello (she doesn't even know I'm a smurf).

Alexa Still's name has come up twice on this list lately, so I
thought I'd come out of work-imposed lurk mode to comment. I am happy to
report that she is now the flute professor at the University of
Colorado-Boulder. I've only had three lessons so far, but all of them have
been helpful, and studio class has been wonderful.

She's probably in Oz right now, since she left here yesterday or
today. The festival is in Melbourne, I believe. And yes, do go say hello
to her; she's quite friendly, in addition to being a great player.

And on another subject: a BIG thank-you to all of you who
commented on my "getting interviewed by a student" querry. I can't believe
how many responses I got! Everything from "let the kid make his own
decisions" to "turn and FLEE!" If I wrote personal thank-you's, I'd have
to send over 50! This question obviously hit a sore spot. I've been
waiting to write until I had the rest of the story. After rescheduling
twice, the mom finally called--a half hour before our
appointment/interview, to say that her precious darling had picked a
teacher the previous week, but if he didn't like her after a few lessons,
they'd call me. (I ever so politely told them not to bother.)

However, I'm glad that I came up with a firm policy as a result of
this, as I got another call a few days later from a girl who wanted to
take a private lesson from each of six teachers, one each week, and then
make a decision at the end of six weeks as to which teacher to pick. I was
able to encourage her to go with ONE of the teachers and give that teacher
a chance for a while, especially since the first teacher she mentioned is
fantastic. (I think I saved five teachers a valuable hour of time.) So
thanks again to all of you for your advice.

Adrian, welcome back! We've missed you.

--Shelley
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Dear Jill,

I seem always to be the cause of this obvious question..who is WIBB?
Sorry...but I suppose if I said Jimmy..you might guess it was James Galway..
wheras i suppose it doesn't feally give so much of a clue!!

Well he has always been WIBB..to his best friends..of which I am one of
THE best...and to everyone-----including his wife, Michie.

When he was 7 years old he got sent away to boarding school...cruel lot
the British...and his Mum wrote his initials on everything..William Ingham
Brooke Bennett...hence W.I.B.B.

Someone called him MR. Bennett at this year's classes and he said.."No I
am WIBB..you must all call me WIBB"....and the person then said "Excuse me
Mr.WIBB"...........

And Jill there is no such thing as a silly question...only a silly answer!!
You ask away...you might get the odd FUNNY answer..especially from me and
a few others, but we respect young folk and innocence and lack of knowledge..
cos we have all been there. You wait till young Wendy gets back online..
she asked some gems..and we all loved her for it..and still do.

Adrian
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so after your done getting lessons from Martin, Nancy, will you take me on
as a pupil ???

(I only take instruction from pretty flute players! ;-) )

Miz White - welcome to flutedom!

congrats Guy, what a wonderful report. But now you realise this makes you a
professional (!)

still looking forward to hearing about the rest of Caroline's ambitions ...
did you get a reply from the flutemakers C+F yet? (like a "surprise" -
they're only making them in platinum????)

I have tried to follow in Sandi's footprints and recruit new members - one
of my potential customers was telling me how much he loves to hear the
flute - as his daughter plays - I have emailed him the FN address - lets see
whether she takes us up ...

Lyn - how do I get a copy of your article? (woops, gave up my sub to the
magazine about 6 months ago - seemed to be aimed at a different audience) .
I'm sure your explanation of the diaphragm monster will go suitably well
with the drawing you made for me on the tube that day.

well as is my wont, when I get a compliment from my teacher, I go and
splurge on the next level of musical scores - (doesn't happen often so make
the most of I say) NOW I understand what Caroline et al are talking
about re Chaminade! Suite Antique and the next (very) long term project
Flute de Pan completed my shopping spree for this decade.

in solidarity with Sally Ann, I should mention that Derbyshire, England, was
hit my a mini hurricane this week also. This is, to say the least, somewhat
uncommon in blighty. Did it get down your way Craig? Or did you just blow
it back up north?


cheers
andrew

Shelly, you got to CU @ Boulder? I've always wanted to go there, although my
mom says its too far. = How's the music/music ed. program there?

I'm pretty excited, because today in school, they finally solved my schedule
conflict (with the help of some phone calls made to administrators by mom--I
swear they think shes psycho, but then again she is. hehe, j/k) Anyway, the
guidance counselors told me I had to chose between college calculus, and Music
Theory 3. Well, since theory 2 was such a bust, b/c they threw in a new
teacher, I'm really only a one and a half. But anyway, both classes were only
offered 1st period, so they put me in calculus. Since I'm a music major, but
I do pretty well in math, I really wanted both those classes. Anyway my
director of music arranged with the theory teacher (the one who knows what hes
doing) and now I have theory every other day, alternating with phys ed, in
place of my BORING study hall. I guess its good to be persistent sometimes.

Oh, and u remember that whole thing about lifeguard training? Well, I went on
Tuesday, instead of band. I took the initial test--20 laps of the pool (4 per
stroke). I gave up after 6. Most of the people there were really strong
swimmers. Both of my boss' wanted me to take the course, so they were
disappointed. They're making me take it over the summer, but they are letting
me use the pool over the winter to build up the endurance. So all in all
things are working out. At least my band director is happy.

Now, of course you have all gotten me interested in this open hole piccolo
thing. I really want to try one. I just don't know when I'll stumble across
one.

As far as college auditions go, my teacher just pulled out my two most recent
all state solos, and as she was almost positive, she still wants me to do
research. Sonatina by Eldin Burton and Variation Trockne Blumen (I made that
up, I dont have the music in front of me) by Schubert aren't in the same time
period right? I cant find the kind of web site that I'm looking for. What I
really want is like a timeline or chart of some sort that has the time periods
(i.e. Baroque, modern, rennasaince..) with the composers listed. That would
help me, if anyone knows where such a place exists--by all means let me know
about it.

I think that's it. Good night.
<3~JillBeanz

Hey Wendy!! Wecome back! I've missed all the hehehehes!!

Nancy

From: Keith Pettway <kpettway@...>

All of you folks down in Oz - My friend Alexa Still will be doing
a flute festival somewhere on your sub continent in the next few days.

Papa Smurf
You know Alexa Still !!! To my shame as a Kiwi I've never heard Alexa play
live, only on CD but she sounded fantastic. Do you happen to know when she
is coming home?? I'm actually going to a recital by her stand in as first
flute for the NZSO on Sunday.

BTW how did you acquire your Smurfhood???

14 - Law of Refrigerator Observation
If a cat watches a refrigerator long enough, someone will come along and

take

out something good to eat.

Cairo (the more hungry-looking of our two black cats) has learned a new
trick; she waits for you to open the fridge and leave the door open while
doing something else, and...presto cat in fridge!!!!! She generally
doesn't get far in beacuse it is too full of last weeks veges.<gg>


Excuse my ignorance, but who is WIBB????
Nevermind - read a bit further through the list of overnight mail and
found Papa Smurf's answer to Jill's question on the same. Is this the
William Bennett who designed the scale that Altus use?? If so I already
think he is a wonderful person.

Rebecca: who's extremely tied because she had to be at school at 6:30
for a flute sectional. yuck!

Is that tongue-tied or bow-tied??<gggg>

Better finish this email before it gets any longer.
Mike Mc

Martin wrote:

so after your done getting lessons from Martin, Nancy, will you take me on
as a pupil ???

Of course Andrew, and FYI I only take lessons from and give lessons to
handsome flute-players! <GG>
And I hope you enjoy the Suite Antique, one of my favourite pieces of flute
music and not very well known as it is such a new piece and by an English
composer! (At least I assume you mean the Rutter! I am very good at getting
the wrong composer in mind!)

Nancy

Nancy